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piene2 Nov 23, 9:19 a.m.
"When standing near a fat person puts me at risk of dieing of obesity I will support such a ban one hundred percent. piene2
So how do you feel about all these folks burning leaves this time of the year Ms. Sensitivity?
I do not have much use for them. It is simply a lowlife action. Aside from releasing all the normal carcinogenics it also releases particulate matter that is very damaging. Also I find it amusing that people rake and burn leaves than go out and buy harmful chemicals to enrich their soil. It makes a lot more sense to simply run over the leaves with a mulching mower and return the nutrients to the soil. The Environmental Protection Agency agrees.
By the way, it is Mister Sensitivity.
NCHighlander Nov 21, 6:56 p.m.
"Let's ban being fat in public too, henryk"
When standing near a fat person puts me at risk of dieing of obesity I will support such a ban one hundred percent. piene2
So how do you feel about all these folks burning leaves this time of the year Ms. Sensitivity?
piene2 Nov 21, 5:09 p.m.
"Next up, Smokers will have to wear a yellow S sewn on their clothing for easy identification. Whatelseisnew"
That is not necessary at all. The stench that smokers emit is worse than that of a bus station Men's room that has not been cleaned in a month. There is no problem at all in identifying smokers.
piene2 Nov 21, 5:06 p.m.
"Let's ban being fat in public too,
When standing near a fat person puts me at risk of dieing of obesity I will support such a ban one hundred percent.
charmcclainlovesdogs2 Nov 21, 4:57 p.m.
I am just grateful that the citizens of Orange County will have fresh air to breathe when they are in public places,"
Only when you are outside is the air really fresh. Yet there are these certain people who messes with that. In a close building or room, I can certainly see that. No pleaseing these people. Next they will have you paying to use the public restroom. LOL
charmcclainlovesdogs2 Nov 21, 4:40 p.m.
group of high school students
high school students, please. How many of these high schoolers are using illegal drugs? Time will certainly tell on that.
charmcclainlovesdogs2 Nov 21, 4:33 p.m.
Whats the next rule? This is not going to stop those people that chooses to smoke.
fishon Nov 21, 4:19 p.m.
Again its those evil "liberals" keeping me from buying a beer at 9am on Sunday morning. Hypocrites.
Agreed, what is beer if not for breakfast?
bitsyfae1 Nov 21, 4:18 p.m.
Well fresh air except the car exhaust and other emissions! Yay.
TruthBKnown Banned Again01 Nov 21, 4:13 p.m.
"Does [passed gas] that get in your clothes too?"
When they prove that passed gas contains carcinogens, then we'll address that one. Until then, you're just an annoyance to others around you when you pass gas. You're not a health threat.
Minarchist Nov 21, 4:11 p.m.
Welcome to the USSA!!!!
November 21, 2012 3:35 p.m.
This is a local issue as it should be. What are you talking about? LOL emotional wrecks.
TruthBKnown Banned Again01 Nov 21, 4:11 p.m.
"How about the publics right to be in a place that is free of alcohol and public drunks"
1) Alcohol does not enter your bloodstream unless you consume it. I can sit RIGHT next to you, drink a drink, and not a drop will enter your body. You cannot smoke a cigarette next to me and keep your smoke out of my lungs.
2) Public drunkenness is already illegal. Call the cops if you see someone intoxicated in a public location.
This is not about protecting the smoker from himself. We don't care what you do with those nasty cigarettes. But you CANNOT consume (smoke) them without putting your smoke into the lungs of others around you. Not unless you've figured out a way to do it without exhaling.
slayerhil Nov 21, 4:10 p.m.
Another reason for smokers to just go ahead and quit smoking. This ban is a bit extreme but I quit smoking 4 yrs ago so it really isn't a big deal to me.
heelsgirl05 Nov 21, 4:10 p.m.
the idea for the ban came up about 2 years ago when some high schoolers gave them the idea. So, it came from a bunch of people who can't vote or live outside their parents house, yet this was thought to be a smart idea? did they ever think that there is a reason WHY they can't vote or move out????
tealsatin Nov 21, 4:04 p.m.
I smoke. I walk away from people when I smoke. I pay taxes on every pack of cigarettes I smoke. WAY overtaxed. To ban smoking outside of a LEGAL product is just ludacris. Are they going to ban me passing gas? Does that get in your clothes too? This is about as silly as banning smoking on the beaches of NC.... BAN, BAN, BAN....
superman Nov 21, 4:01 p.m.
How about the publics right to be in a place that is free of alcohol and public drunks. Guess the CC love to drink but dont smoke. How do they plan to enforce this? A cop on every corner?
johnadams1776 Nov 21, 4:00 p.m.
"I don't smoke and love that it's not allowed in restaurants, but I agree this goes too far..." -ezLikeSundayMorning
This is a great example. Did you realize that before the indoor smoking ban, MOST restaurants chose not to allow it? At that point, you and everyone else had the CHOICE to go to a restaurant that didn't allow smoking, and the OWNER also had the choice to allow it or not.
Now you don't, and no else does either. They've just taken it one more step - they always do. It's called being Progressive.
lochaine Nov 21, 3:43 p.m.
'Thank you for commenting. Your message will be reviewed by a moderator and posted to the site if it adheres to our posting guidelines." Hmmm then why allow commentary if you are going to judge our opinions? Gotta love it. thanks.
storchheim Nov 21, 3:43 p.m.
BTW, Bronco, thanks for the very funny post!
jjsmith1973 Nov 21, 3:42 p.m.
From the state that was known for its tobacco boom. Look this isn't liberalism this is just stupid. North Dakota democrats aren't banning guns and oil because it helps their people. North Carolina made its founding off the tobacco boom. Not to mention I pay my taxes that go to this side walks and parks. I will tell them the same as I told UNC when my wife was in the er. I'm paying money to your hospital, I'm paying my federal taxes that go to this university, along with state and county taxes. I'm going to smoke oh and I have spent 12 years in the military
TruthBKnown Banned Again01 Nov 21, 3:39 p.m.
"The cigarettes that you smoke just AFTER eating that double fat deep fried burger, fries and coke from the drive thru, is NOT what clogged your arteries...sure the nicotine restrictes your already clogged arteries but that fat you just stuffed in your pie hole is what caused the blockage to begin with....!!!!!"
Please don't compare cigs with fast food. People can consume fast food WITHOUT putting those fats into MY arteries. So consume them all you want! It's your life. But when you smoke in a restaurant, you put your smoke into the lungs of others.
TruthBKnown Banned Again01 Nov 21, 3:38 p.m.
"I just do not agree that something legally sold should be subject to bans like this."
Guns and bullets are legally sold. But we don't allow them to be fired just any and everywhere their owners want to shoot them.
Nothing wrong with regulating the USE of otherwise legal products.
Having said that, I think this law went overboard.
dwntwnboy Nov 21, 3:37 p.m.
"Its hard to take anyone serious whos main complaint is they cannot buy beer before 9 am on a sunday. 2 suggestions for you: 1) Buy it on Saturday and 2) seriously your drinking before 9am on a sunday anyway?"- who are you to say when the appropriate time for drinking is? Some people work nights and get off at 6-7 am and would like a drink after a shift working We don't get to tell people when they can buy french fries or sodas. It's about personal choice and freedom. I can buy beer at 7am mon-sat but then "magically" come sunday morning, it's not until 12. It's silly and based on trying to control people- and it's usually those with a bible in their hands trying to do the most controling. Your silly book of superstitions has NO power over my life....with the exception of what time an adult can enjoy a legal, adult beverage on a particular day of the week.
lochaine Nov 21, 3:35 p.m.
Communists. Just plain, flat out COMMUNISTS. That is totally against smoking folks constitutional rights. FURTHERMORE: Smoking people pay taxes too - ESPECIALLY ON OUR CIGARETTES. Welcome to the USSA!!!!
teasleyrf Nov 21, 3:32 p.m.
There was a article earlier this month that the US Military spends over a billion dollars a year for obese servicemen and their families. At least the smokers pay the taxes for their habit. Maybe smokers should buy in counties that they can smoke. It would be interesting to see if the non-smoking counties are willing to give up those tax dollars.
Paul M Nov 21, 3:30 p.m.
What about the Police i see smoking in OUR cop cars. Public property
CharmedLife Nov 21, 3:21 p.m.
bullet & scubagirl.....well stated!!!!
bobshappard Nov 21, 3:18 p.m.
Don't buy smokes or anything else in Orange
Go State....Go Duke
johnadams1776 Nov 21, 3:12 p.m.
Political discussion has really become a source of stress recently. Everyone knows that stress leads to heart disease and mental anguish.
Therefore, for the common good, government should ban all political speech in public places (and of course on places where the public is invited).
Large gatherings to promote political agendas, like demonstrations, strikes and even campaign signs frequently cause general unhappiness and stress and therefore should also be banned from all public arenas.
Obviously all guns are dangerous and should be banned in order to protect the public, and also knives, baseball bats, fatty foods, large sodas, salt, alcoholic beverages, driving, bike riding, and school sports.
Thousands of people are injured while talking on their cellphone and walking, taking baths, mowing the lawn. Its time we were a responsible government and take these matters more seriously, for the good of the public.
Liberals will just not get it until its too late for anyone to fix it.
North Carolina Cutie Nov 21, 3:12 p.m.
For me I don't need a study on second hand smoke I have a relative I visit and they smoke 6 to 8 cigs in an hour and I can tasted the smoke on my lips and smell horable when I leave and believe me I don't visit them much I have to spray my clothes just too be able too drive in comfort.
Minarchist Nov 21, 3:09 p.m.
Again its those evil "liberals" keeping me from buying a beer at 9am on Sunday morning. Hypocrites. vinylcarwraps23
Its hard to take anyone serious whos main complaint is they cannot buy beer before 9 am on a sunday. 2 suggestions for you: 1) Buy it on Saturday and 2) seriously your drinking before 9am on a sunday anyway?
I Carry even in Cary
November 21, 2012 1:57 p.m.
Seriously. I work and pay taxes. Why in the world is it any of your business when I want to buy and/or drink a beer?
Scubagirl Nov 21, 3:07 p.m.
"Since the smoking ban in restaurants and bars was enacted the incidence of heart attack has decreased by 20%.
FACTS??? Prove it please? Believe that would be just another bogus claim.
SmokeWagon Nov 21, 3:01 p.m.
More freedom dismantled for the "good" of the miniuns by big brother government...this is dangerous turf...what OTHER group will crawl out of the sewer and demand that you trade YOUR freedom for THEIR freedom....??? Oh you stupid, stupid sheep....!!!!!!
SmokeWagon Nov 21, 2:57 p.m.
The cigarettes that you smoke just AFTER eating that double fat deep fried burger, fries and coke from the drive thru, is NOT what clogged your arteries...sure the nicotine restrictes your already clogged arteries but that fat you just stuffed in your pie hole is what caused the blockage to begin with....!!!!!
Lightfoot3 Nov 21, 2:54 p.m.
“The mobile cigar lounge…” – drjimmybcigars
Neat idea. But do you have any more images to post on Facebook? The ones I see seem to look like an RV inside, instead of a nice “bar” or “lounge”.
“seriously your drinking before 9am on a sunday anyway?” - I Carry even in Cary
I don’t, but I had to return a bottle of wine to the shelf at Food Lion once because of the stupid law. Was trying to buy stuff for the evening meal.
Minarchist Nov 21, 2:52 p.m.
If you choose to walk around looking like a fish-dragon hybrid go for it. Funny some of these same people were all for banning "sagging".
norainonmyparade Nov 21, 2:43 p.m.
"LOl, its the Counties parks and streets and they can say what can and cannot happen on them." Grand Union
I guess you did not read the part about private property where the public is invited?
So if I own a piece of property and build some sort of exhibit and invite the public to come see it - the people that visit my property can no longer smoke on my property and neither can I, while the public is invited.
storchheim Nov 21, 2:39 p.m.
"If section 8 is public housing does this ban apply to those areas as well?"
No. That would be racist.
OneLove Nov 21, 2:37 p.m.
I just do not agree that something legally sold should be subject to bans like this.
henryk Nov 21, 2:37 p.m.
Let's ban being fat in public too,while we are already in business of correcting behavior the tobacco nazis don't like.It is high time to start dismantling Orange Peoples Republic.
SmokeWagon Nov 21, 2:37 p.m.
..."Great move Orange County. We need the same law in the entire nation! piene2.."
....said the sheep being led to slaughter......!!!!!
Alex25 Nov 21, 2:37 p.m.
There are NO controlled studies re the impact of Second Smoke. Totally bogus and a lie to claim otherwise....
Alex25 Nov 21, 2:35 p.m.
And the Govt expansion drum beat continues. Wake up people.........................
storchheim Nov 21, 2:34 p.m.
This is about education and empowerment," said Dr. Colleen Bridger, director of the Orange County Health Department. "What we really want is to make sure that we're helping people understand where smoking is allowed and where smoking isn't allowed."
A supposedly educated doctor squeals like a Valley Girl, "This is ABOUT empowerment!" No, sweetie, it's not ABOUT anything. It's a law. See?
And then this sweetsy, super-simple, repetitive baby talk about 'we want to make sure we're helping people understand' garbage? Does that mean you're going to teach them to read, or to comprehend, or both?
Ah. Director, OC Health Dept. Govt hack. When she can speak like a big grownup girl, I'll listen. Till then I'm mildly insulted.
drjimmybcigars Nov 21, 2:24 p.m.
I am disappointed to see this freedom taken away. That is why a mobile cigar lounge is now located in the triangle area. We can not post a link to the web page on here about the lounge but anyone that enjoys cigars can look it up as an alternative to get around these people that want to ban your freedoms. Google mobile cigar lounge Raleigh to look at a place you can smoke cigars in Orange County for your specials events.
readme Nov 21, 2:20 p.m.
This is completely overboard, and nobody hates cigarrette smoke more than me. For those of you who hate smoke, I hope you agree also. Next time it won't be smoking that an overbearing government is outlawing almost everywhere except the privacy of your own home. It might be something you hold a little more dear to your heart.
hollylama Nov 21, 2:19 p.m.
"Medical costs of second hand smoke exposure in NC" (Study conducted using Blue Cross Blue Shield Data)
"The total annual cost of treatment for conditions related to SHS exposure in North Carolina was estimated to be $293,304,430, in 2009 inflation-adjusted dollars. Sensitivity analysis showed a range of $208.2 million to $386.3 million. The majority of individuals affected were children, but the greatest costs were for cardiovascular conditions."
drjimmybcigars Nov 21, 2:19 p.m.
I am disappointed to see more freedoms taken away. However, that is why there is a mobile cigar lounge. The mobile cigar lounge (www.facebook.com/mobilecigarlounge) gets around the smoking ban at least for special events.
hurrayfornc Nov 21, 2:18 p.m.
There goes another piece of the FREEDOM pie.
hollylama Nov 21, 2:17 p.m.
Since the smoking ban in restaurants and bars was enacted the incidence of heart attack has decreased by 20%.
Published: 2007-10-05 09:38:00
Updated: 2014-06-24 16:03:36