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  • Observing Sassie and Laughing Nov 21, 5:15 p.m.

    PDC - 1996 posted:

    "Blowing hot air and calling for additional bureaucratic investigations into the woes of the UNC scandal just paints you as another out-of-touch politician in a suit."

    I doubt that Senator Goolsby is just some political suit, as you call him, blowing some hot air. I would suspect there are others within that legislature who share his thoughts about
    UNC's problems. Without a doubt, UNC needs to clean and rid itself of the trash it's mired in.

    If there are lingering concerns or questions at the close of the Martin investigation you can be assured that there will be those in the legislature who will be asking some pointed, direct questions at UNC. If that happens, it's going to be bad for UNC.

  • superman Nov 21, 4:29 p.m.

    I would like to know how low they had to drop the entrance requirements for them to be allowed to attend college.

  • rush Nov 21, 1:56 p.m.

    "*sigh* Mr. Senator, please spend every minute of your time as an elected North Carolina representative working to get our economy going and adding jobs in our state. Blowing hot air and calling for additional bureaucratic investigations into the woes of the UNC scandal just paints you as another out-of-touch politician in a suit. If you can't get a clue, maybe someone in our state could sell you one. At least that would help the economy in a small way."

    There's 170 lawmakers in NC, I'm sure they can handle multiple tasks concurrently. And I am all for investigating state employees who are committing fraud, abusing the public's trust, and misusing taxpayer funding.

  • Knightwolf Nov 21, 1:27 p.m.

    as far as getting the Attorney General involved, guess where Roy Cooper got his law degree? Yep, you got it! UNC-CHeat.

  • PDC - 1996 Nov 21, 12:57 p.m.

    *sigh*
    Mr. Senator, please spend every minute of your time as an elected North Carolina representative working to get our economy going and adding jobs in our state. Blowing hot air and calling for additional bureaucratic investigations into the woes of the UNC scandal just paints you as another out-of-touch politician in a suit. If you can't get a clue, maybe someone in our state could sell you one. At least that would help the economy in a small way.

  • tayled Nov 21, 11:29 a.m.

    As much as this Wolfpacker loves to see UNC in hot water, I want to know how illiterate student-athletes get out of elementary school, and middle school and graduate from high school. Is it possible that some groups of students are just pushed ahead so that our precious government/public schools won't appear to have a worse racial achievement gap than they have now? Seems that educators all up and down the line should get sued for delivering a fradulent product.

    You are exactly right. The underachievers get passed on without question, especially if they are star athletes. Take a look at the number of students in our community college system who are taking pre-requisite courses to make up for a lack of math, reading, and English they they should have gotten in HS. They did not get it because they were simply moved on.

  • tayled Nov 21, 11:26 a.m.

    Politicians need to stay out of this. It's like the pot calling the kettle black.

  • vile garbage Nov 21, 11:06 a.m.

    Yeah politicians are all clean. Doouchebag. Find something to do with your time and my tax dollars.

  • QC Nov 21, 10:39 a.m.

    Fine. Likewise...

    NC House Speaker Thom Tillis' chief of staff recently resigned due to a lobbying scandal. This scandal is like athlete's foot that won't go away. I think all state government officials should be criminally investigated immediately, and we should start with Republican State Sen. Thom Goolsby!

    See how stupid works?

  • QC Nov 21, 10:32 a.m.

    Another angry fascist State operative. Line em up with the N&O and WRAL operatives and give them a hug and a cookie.

  • cupofcoffee Nov 21, 9:36 a.m.

    I agree that the facts need to come out, and wrongdoing exposed, but where's the crime?

  • FAN72 Nov 21, 8:42 a.m.

    Goolsby may be right, but I am so tired of this ongoing drama. Just do the right thing even if that means firing people for cause and let us move on.

  • Hammerhead Nov 21, 8:40 a.m.

    "just goes to show you , anyone with a degree can not be trusted !"

    Really? I worked in construction for years to put myself through school and there were plenty of scalawags in that business.

  • TsKaMF Nov 20, 7:58 p.m.

    "Look into all the UNC System schools" WHAT????

    So, let's say your nieghbor gets charged/arrested/accused of fraud/crime. Then you should be investigated also...REALLY ?!?!

  • rush Nov 20, 7:57 p.m.

    "Us tax payers pay this this guys salary a little over $100,000"

    LOL, State senator salaries are less than $20,000 annually.

  • charlesboyer Nov 20, 7:50 p.m.

    Right is right. It's time for the whole unvarnished truth to come out and for the integrity of a fine university to be restored. With very few exceptions, those who have UNC degrees can be proud of the hard work they put into earning their diploma and if athletics is committing academic fraud, then it needs to be stopped.

    Goolsby is right, and his political party or ideology doesn't change that simple fact.

  • timtooltime777 Nov 20, 7:46 p.m.

    just goes to show you , anyone with a degree can not be trusted !

  • timtooltime777 Nov 20, 7:43 p.m.

    Really where are the state paid crones who make big tax payer bucks? They should be fired for not doing there jobs, they will probable get a raise instead !

  • ILoveDowntownRaleigh Nov 20, 7:36 p.m.

    Republicans were swept into a majority in 2010 on the promise of focusing on "jobs, jobs, jobs". Since then, they have focused on everything but.

    So, thanks State Senator Goolsby for your interest in UNC's athletic problems. Point taken. Now: focus on jobs, jobs, jobs. Our unemployment rate is now one of the 5 worst in the nation. So get to it, or the GOP majority will be gone sooner than you think.

  • beckerunc Nov 20, 7:30 p.m.

    The Republican and all of the General Assembly need to be sued for failure to do THEIR jobs in all areas. This clown needs to go home.

  • timtooltime777 Nov 20, 7:30 p.m.

    Where are all of the big college presidents for the state @ , I guess they should be fired for not doing there jobs watching over all of the colleges !

  • Observing Sassie and Laughing Nov 20, 7:30 p.m.

    cwilliams843 posted:

    "Us tax payers pay this this guys salary a little over $100,000 and he's stating simplistic point that just about every ABCer out there says...so long the U.S.A"

    Us taxpayers? Let me remind you that anyone who pays taxes in this state is supporting UNC. UNC a flagship? Hilarious! UNC
    is nothing more than a garbage trawler now, and it's all due to the fact that it placed sports above academics. That's a fact.

    You guys don't get it. People are laughing at you. And it's not just that ABC crowd.....

    UNC

    became one because of it's blind obsession with UNC sports.

  • blisstate Nov 20, 7:11 p.m.

    Thank you Goolsby for voicing what so many UNC graduates want done.

  • biscuits12 Nov 20, 7:11 p.m.

    The probe is a good idea. It should include all the sports including baseball, lacrosse, soccer etc. When I was in college those lacrosse players where such serious heads - no way they could graduate without help. Rarely are these athletes the smartest out of the bunch to boot. There's no way those guys could have seriously graduated legally.

    All these privileged athletes have to do is endure two a day workouts, play a couple games, travel a bit, and in return they get the king's treatment. And all for being able to throw, hit, or score goals. Most of them got preferential treatment anyways and through their team connections I'm sure have access to various tests and exams etc. beforehand. And Carolina is a top-tier public school. The academic standards at some of these other state schools and the high schools from whence these athletes come from must be below the sub-par.

    The golf team is probably ok though.

  • lanecc Nov 20, 6:56 p.m.

    While academic fraud, to some extent. probably goes on at every school, are we so intent on a winning record that we just don't care anymore. Sad. The whole student-athletic status has got to change to reflect what it really is. But until it does, those guilty parties need to be brought to justice (whatever that might be).

  • Mike H Nov 20, 6:43 p.m.

    Bring on the probe. It'll cost a pittance compared to the amount of money being funneled through this place. Let the criminals running this racket foot the bill for it.

  • doggypoos Nov 20, 6:34 p.m.

    Next step is to move the Rams club and money folk out of the new part of the stadium and move there functions off campus. Its a conflict of interest to have student athletic support, rams club and boosters, and finance offices all in the same building. Also student tutoring and activities. It should all be in separate buildings around campus. Rams club and boosters should be off campus. Have to do what ever it takes to protect the students best interest.

  • doggypoos Nov 20, 6:27 p.m.

    About time someone is sending a message about this circus that this will not be tolerated.

  • one Nov 20, 6:21 p.m.

    We did the crime
    But you should investigate everyone

    Get over yourselves, carowhina fans
    I'm sure your adoptamater really cares about you, or their athletes.

  • dollibug Nov 20, 6:20 p.m.

    There are a lot of *issues* which should be addressed in Wake County....perhaps the Attorney General should also address these investigations as well....it is sad when people who are supposed to do what is legal and lawful have to be looked at to make sure they are also following what their jobs require....as the so called *wheels of justice keep spinning/slap out of control*.....

  • robertgiles1950 Nov 20, 6:18 p.m.

    Get real with the academics. Reopen basket 150 weaving and beer drinking 101. Those who committed academic fraud and accepted payments just to get an NFL Contract should be sued for damages out of their NFL signing bonuses. Then clean HOUSE in the Athletic Department. They all knew what was going on Chancellor on down. Pimping out Carolina Athletics and players for BIG BUCKS. Title IX opened the floodgates for moneymongering.

  • Alex25 Nov 20, 6:13 p.m.

    The cheating beats go on..............................UNCCH at its best!

  • cwilliams843 Nov 20, 6:07 p.m.

    With the economy the way it is, the issues we have in the state of NC this is what this guy is worried about? Wow, as a Senator obligated to represent the people of NC this is horrible and disgusting. I know that UNC has done lots of dirt but don't put yourself out there and waste tax payers money. Us tax payers pay this this guys salary a little over $100,000 and he's stating simplistic point that just about every ABCer out there says...so long the U.S.A

  • dws Nov 20, 5:58 p.m.

    lol foghat001......actually, the "real" Carolina is dying a slow death while the administration attempts to extend the coverup

  • seankelly15 Nov 20, 5:55 p.m.

    Just political bluster - nothing more. What "crimes" were committed that would justify a criminal probe? There have to be actual laws - not university policies - not NCAA policies - actual statutes that would be in force. He makes a passing reference to fraud but fraud against whom? As I said... political bluster.

  • ICEAgent Nov 20, 5:45 p.m.

    Really? Waste money on something else

  • chivegas Nov 20, 5:43 p.m.

    "I'm all for there to be an all-out probe of UNC-CH....but it should involve all UNC system schools. I know it's shocking news that athletes aren't as "academically gifted" as their non-athlete peers.

    I want to see reports across the board for all schools. UNC-CH has stalled, misdirected and pretty much covered up as much as they could. I wonder if other UNC systems schools would be willing to open themselves up. They might not like what they see.

    It is what it is."

    I suppose you'd be willing to pay the millions to do this? I thought not. There's no legitimate reason to suspect any of the other schools have done anything wrong. Don't waste our tax dollars just because your school thought they were invincible and got caught.

  • Rebelyell Nov 20, 5:37 p.m.

    Few things are as disgusting as giving students a pass on grades for their athletic gains, or fine folks working at state supported colleges that made it happen or covered it up. Hang them high, time to make an example out of everyone that could have stopped or exposed this, but instead, quietly kept taking the lucrative salaries paid out of tax dollars.

  • foghat001 Nov 20, 5:34 p.m.

    die Carolina, die !!!!!

  • timtooltime777 Nov 20, 5:34 p.m.

    Where is erskin bowles now ? Just collecting his checks !

  • cmmsbft Nov 20, 5:32 p.m.

    nice toupee

  • philipw Nov 20, 5:32 p.m.

    Mr Goolsby is an opportunistic lightweight who has an opinion about everything. The fact that he has an elected position does not speak well of New Hanover County.

    That being said, I personally would favor abolishing all college sports, period, except intramural. Far too much time and money is spent on this foolishness which should not be dignified by its apparent connection to higher education.

  • Relic Nov 20, 5:26 p.m.

    My dear State fans and alumni...Please be careful what you wish for. We at UNC beat our chests for so long about being "squeaky clean" that when the shoe fell it hurt even more. But other than this wanna be General Assembly Perry Mason shooting off his mouth he never once said what CRIMINAL charges could be brought or investigated.

  • heelbilly Nov 20, 5:23 p.m.

    get ovet it

  • HappyGoAshley Nov 20, 5:20 p.m.

    I'm all for there to be an all-out probe of UNC-CH....but it should involve all UNC system schools. I know it's shocking news that athletes aren't as "academically gifted" as their non-athlete peers.

    I want to see reports across the board for all schools. UNC-CH has stalled, misdirected and pretty much covered up as much as they could. I wonder if other UNC systems schools would be willing to open themselves up. They might not like what they see.

    It is what it is.

  • KHawk Nov 20, 5:11 p.m.

    Its about time - this massive fail must be dealt with and the only way out is directly thru the storm. And sooner rather than later while we're at it.

  • mac5535 Nov 20, 5:08 p.m.

    Finally someone has gotten the guts to tell it like it is. It is a disgrace how UNC has handled these matters.

  • salt of the earth Nov 20, 5:03 p.m.

    At the bottom of his column states the following:

    "Thom Goolsby is a practicing attorney, law professor and was recently reelected to the N.C. Senate. He serves on the Senate Education/Higher Education Committee."

    It says in the article, he's an adjunct law professor. There is a pretty big difference between and adjunct law professor and a real law professor. I don't see him on the list of law school faculty:
    http://lawdev.campbell.edu/page.cfm?id=233&n=faculty

    I wonder who made the mistake? I think this mistake in the academic credentialing of a sitting NC State Senator deserves a criminal investigation. Additionally, he uses "Sen Thom Goolsby" instead of "NC State Sen Thom Goolsby" as his title.

    For a guy complaining about academic reputation, he seems to be pretty sloppy with his own titles.

  • rush Nov 20, 5:00 p.m.

    "Man, the UNC fans are just pathetic. How can anyone defend this. It is remarkably sad that UNC fans can defend this blatant fraud."

    It's pretty easy when all you care about is the school's athletics and don't care the slightest if their academic reputation takes a hit. For the record, ALL my UNC Alum friends are very upset over this, the same way I would be if it were happening at NCSU.

  • chivegas Nov 20, 5:00 p.m.

    "If NCAA officials came over to Raleigh, they would find the same thing going on. If you dont think so, I got some ocean front property on Capital BLVD I will sale ya.
    Click to view my profile " -heels21

    Another UNeduCated Walmart fan... "Everyone else does it too" Haha...pathetic and completely false.

    It's fun to watch CHeats becoming obsessed with State. University of No Class at its finest!

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