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  • raleighlynn Nov 21, 2012

    How did this happen? Doesn't OSHA have rules in place for digging and trench work? This is an accident that didn't have to happen. R.I.P. and sympathy to the victim's family.

  • RudeDawg Nov 21, 2012

    I work in the industry, that being said; the laborer was at the top of the trench with the ladder attempting to put the ladder in the trench when the trench wall gave way and the dirt beneath his feet disappeared. He fell between the trench box and the trench wall and was trapped by the dirt he was standing on just seconds before. look at the pictures; the one with the I beam sticking out of the hole beside the trench box. look at the orange ladder in the hole on top of the dirt. look at the soil it is granular and type c soil which requires sloping of 1.5h:1v unless you are using protective system. the trench was deeper than the trench box and the wall colapsed and slid under the bottom of the trench box...I work in the utility business.

  • wmcmahon1 Nov 21, 2012

    "SOMETIMES IT'S JUST TOO RISKY"..........???? Give me a break! That sounds like what Obama said about the four Americans at the Consulate in Bengazi.

  • wewoods Nov 21, 2012

    thank you brianwhittier9!

    yes 900X3 is 2700lbs per cubic yard. Thanks for correcting my math. Of course this is an estimate, a heavy one I must add, because soil has many components. Sand, silt, and clay were the three I was going with with no aggregate (rocks) or organic material (roots/wood). But this is not a class, just an attempt to open some eyes on how heavey dirt is and how dangerous trenching and excavating is and to NOT enter one if you are not protected from it caving in. When does a cave in occur? WHENEVER it wants to.

  • wewoods Nov 21, 2012

    You're correct on the competent person requirement but that's about it. -willemakeit-
    I made no mention of exiting (or egress) but yes you are correct, it is 25' in either direction with a stairway, ladder, ramp, or other means of safe egress BUT at a depth of 4' or more, NOT 5'. 5' starts protective systems which are shoring (metal or timber supports, ie. trench boxes), sloping (angle of sides) or benching (stair-stepping sides back). But 5'? If soldering a pipe at the bottom of a 4'11.5" trench and it caves in (thats well over 1000lbs or dirt not to mention the momentum) do you think anyone will survive? Very doubtful. The OSHA 29CFR needs to be a MINIMUM requirement. Its up to everyone to go above and beyond those minimums to protect themselves, their friends, their co-workers, their employee's, and their employers...OUR families. THINK about what your doing and where. Go with 3'.
    A general rule of thumb, WOULD I PUT MY CHILD IN THE SAME SITUATION WITH THE SAME EQUIPMENT?

  • RudeDawg Nov 21, 2012

    The competent person is the only one with autority to stop work on the job (by osha's definition)... the POTUS does not have the ability to stop work on this job without assuming the liability that goes with it. this is on the crew working in and around the trench. and the company's competent person.

  • SportsLover75 Nov 21, 2012

    Prayers for thier family and friends.

  • Grand Union Nov 21, 2012

    "nothing happened the other 200 times he did this."

    Humans are very fallible in this respect....the same thinking was the root cause of the Challenger disaster.

  • Grand Union Nov 21, 2012

    "you would under ordinary conditions think that with so many p.e's arounds an about on the schools campaus that surely sonething of this nature would not have occured here"

    It will have been a private contractor not the College that was doing this work. And it seems from the picture that steel shoring was being used. Its likely the victim simply made a mistake and did something unsafe. My experience with manual laborers is that they are sometimes very careless with their own safety. They do something so often that the forget that its dangerous and then their luck rubs out.

  • ghimmy51 Nov 21, 2012

    This is my sort of work. There is NO excuse for this to happen. No excuse. Where was the inspector? Why were trenching and shoring regulations not followed? Best guess: inspector at lunch, contractor in a hurry ... nothing happened the other 200 times he did this.

  • workinghuman33 Nov 21, 2012

    What a tragic loss. My heart and prayers go out to the family and friends of this construction worker. Such a sad story.

  • Scubagirl Nov 21, 2012

    Now with more details available this is an even sadder story. Condolences to ALL involved in this-how horrible for all of them and especially to the family of the worker who was killed.

  • jlangley4 Nov 21, 2012

    From the pictures posted, it appears that the shoring and other required standards were applied. Without the first report of injury or a witness statement, we don't know if the employee stepped outside of safe area. Prayers to the family and bystanders who witnessed this tragedy.

  • pbjbeach Nov 20, 2012

    you would under ordinary conditions think that with so many p.e's arounds an about on the schools campaus that surely sonething of this nature would not have occured here . it would have been the last place for an accident of htis kind to take place just so senseless fo rthis sort of accident to happen in the first place sorry of the family members effected by the accident. evidently the compent person wasn't so compent where was the steal shoring box or was it not being utlized was there proper ingress an egress out of the trench how deep was the trenchs depth when the accident occured was it over five foot deep . had the compent person certified the worksite as being safe to work in had he/she actualy signed off on it being safe did the worker in anyway contribute to the accident why was the trench not properly laid back to a suitable width for the edge of the trench . was there equipment working to close to the edge of the trench was there excessive vibirations from equipment b

  • kellibean62 Nov 20, 2012

    I was at work today on this jobsite and saw the trouble from the buildings being constructed. So sad. Its rough to think about not comming home after going to work. It hurts even worse thinking of this persons family. We practice safty everyday at work and i never been on a job where something like this has happened. I dont even know what this person looks like as there are so many people on this jobsite. I am truly hurt to think of the family and the men that were working along with this person. So Sad. Godbless the family and my thoughts and prayers go out to all of you.

  • mcraineycrazies Nov 20, 2012

    so sad, and right before the holidays, just tragic

  • dlnorri Nov 20, 2012

    Looking at the pictures, that is a substantial and dangerous excavation. Certain they had some plans and equipment in place (see shoring in some of the photos). Sometimes the plans are not good enough, sometimes the best plans fail (recall the collapse of the shoring at the cary sewer pumping station a few years ago). The damp weather the past few days could have changed the soil conditions. Looking at the size and complexity of the excavation, an insurance company is going to loose some money. Condolences to the family, friends, and coworkers.

  • more cowbell Nov 20, 2012

    DO NOT enter an excavation or trench EVER that is more than 3 feet deep without proper shoring or safety measures!! ITS THE LAW! Your employer MUST provide TRENCH BOXES AND have a trained COMPETENT PERSON who knows how to recognize unsafe environments and what safety measure to employ for each.
    wewoods

    You're correct on the competent person requirement but that's about it.
    In construction there are requirements for workers entering excavations. The references are from OSHA 29CFR, Part 1926, Subpart P. At 4' in depth you must provide a safe means of egress within 25' of workers. At a depth of 5' the contractor must provide a protective system based on the soil type. Protective systems consist of sloping, benching and shoring. This is acceptable up to a depth of 21'. Greater than that, the protective system must be designed by an RPE. The competent person is required to inspect and document the excavtion that will be occupied by workers.

    Just my two cents.

  • Skywatch_NC Nov 20, 2012

    We are our own saviors,no one else,so thoughts and prayers from others don't do anything except to show how lazy they are and want others to help them.

    There is only one Savior. And to the contrary prayers and thoughts for a family can and do help even if one isn't able to physically be with the family.

  • Pepe Silvia Nov 20, 2012

    Oh no! My heart is aching for this worker and his family.

    I was at the dentist afternoon when the story broke on the TV and they interrupted some talk show that was playing to talk about it, I could barely hear the TV but I was able to catch what was going on. At the time there wasn't much detail. I got sidetracked once I got back to work and never followed up on the story but just made my way back to WRAL hoping to see some good news about him.

  • RockGuitar Nov 20, 2012

    tragic accident. this is dangerous work. terrible way to die.

  • Uhavenoclu Nov 20, 2012

    The N&O is reporting the name of the contractor on their website. If this is true, I have worked alongside this contractor for years and trust me when I say that safety is their core value. My thoughts and prayers go out the families and loved ones of everyone involved.

    We are our own saviors,no one else,so thoughts and prayers from others don't do anything except to show how lazy they are and want others to help them.What the family and friends and loved ones need is someone there who understands and can help.
    Prayer is just a suggestion ,faith is belief,have faith and believe it will get done.

  • brianwhittier9 Nov 20, 2012

    Just to correct your math. A cubic yard is 27 cubic feet and weighs well over a ton, so even that much more weight than 900 lbs you mention.

  • ecuscore Nov 20, 2012

    The N&O is reporting the name of the contractor on their website. If this is true, I have worked alongside this contractor for years and trust me when I say that safety is their core value. My thoughts and prayers go out the families and loved ones of everyone involved.

  • wewoods Nov 20, 2012

    My deepest condolences to the person's family and friends. Tragic. My thoughts will be with all of you during this difficult time and every time I pass that area in the future for a long time.
    Now, people listen, PLEASE READ (I mean no disrespect, I'm only trying to save lives, Its what I teach over here on Centennial)- a cubic foot of dirt weighs between 75-100 pounds. A cubic yard (3ftX3ftX3ft) weighs upwards around 900 pounds. NO PERSON can withstand that weight on their body let alone the momentum of a cave in! DO NOT enter an excavation or trench EVER that is more than 3 feet deep without proper shoring or safety measures!! ITS THE LAW! Your employer MUST provide TRENCH BOXES AND have a trained COMPETENT PERSON who knows how to recognize unsafe environments and what safety measure to employ for each. If you feel unsafe then DO NOT ENTER THE AREA OR LET ANYONE ELSE ENTER EITHER!! PERIOD!! As busy as we all are these days, we have to look out for each other now too.Pce b w/u brother

  • 3x3NC Nov 20, 2012

    Prayers and thoughts are with the family.

  • LOC Nov 20, 2012

    So sad to hear.. RIP

  • ferdjr Nov 20, 2012

    There is no reason for a person to be in trench without proper supports. I can not understand why this kind of accident happens time after time. Proper supports are easily put in anytime a person is in any trench. Should be criminal negligence.

  • LKG-Lover Nov 20, 2012

    My condolences to the family, friends and NC State University. May God bring comfort to all of you in the days to come.

    Could not have said it better.

  • Skywatch_NC Nov 20, 2012

    Prayers and thoughts with the family of the deceased worker.

  • Scubagirl Nov 20, 2012

    So sad, condolences to his family.......

    And to Raleighnative25 they simply need to report to stay away from the area-too many stories are rushed to print only to find them incorrect, completely false or just a waste of space because they say so little.

    But again, condolences to all who cared for the worker.

  • BEACH Nov 20, 2012

    PRAYERS for the Family, we never know when a day may be our last.

  • Bartmeister Nov 20, 2012

    Uh-Oh. Sad to hear, unfortunately hear it much too often. Call in the inspectors. That jobsite just went down for a while.

  • charmcclainlovesdogs2 Nov 20, 2012

    My condolences to the family, friends and NC State University. May God bring comfort to all of you in the days to come.

  • rbenton Nov 20, 2012

    My husband is working out there, I was so worried when I saw this nondescript article!

  • icy148 Nov 20, 2012

    Wow, that's sad. Prayers to his/her family and coworkers.

  • jgilchr Nov 20, 2012

    Offshore you are unfortunately correct. As it says now the person has died.

  • evniamdawalrus Nov 20, 2012

    Take that "No Exit" sign away until they are free!

  • southerntalent Nov 20, 2012

    They just updated this and sadly the person has died,I hope for the familys sake they figure out why they were working in unsafe conditions.

  • Offshore Nov 20, 2012

    Be aware, most trench rescues are recoveries. Let's hope this is not the case.

  • chrisnrali Nov 20, 2012

    bart, that was a good visual.

  • Tarheel born Nov 20, 2012

    Gettem' out quick.......

  • Bartmeister Nov 20, 2012

    Well if there are no trench boxes, then OSHA will have a field day. They'll be like a litter of Beagle puppies running around that site.

  • RALEIGHNATIVE25 Nov 20, 2012

    Why rush print? So people in the immediate area will know what is going on and do avoid that part of Main Campus. For example, parents picking up students from Centennial Middle or school bus drivers.

  • tierneemalinadeveaux Nov 20, 2012

    I see the helicopters flying over the site right now...I pray that the person(s) are ok.

  • bobbyj Nov 20, 2012

    trench failed because lack of trench boxes. USED THEM ALL THE TIME.... Safety First.

  • Scubagirl Nov 20, 2012

    a story w/ no details.......why rush to print?

    Hoping they are able to rescue him safely.

  • Gork Nov 20, 2012

    Is it an NCSU employee or a contractor? Who do they work for?

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