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Mrs. Beasley Nov 15, 12:59 p.m.
@dixiechic - SAS(Scandinavian Airlines) is laying off...not SAS Institute(software firm in Cary). :-)
dixiechic Nov 15, 11:40 a.m.
So I just read this article after reading they are laying off 800 employees. Glad I don't work there!! Just saying
charmcclainlovesdogs2 Nov 14, 3:50 p.m.
That is a good thing. Congratulations. I wish all work places was that good. May others learn from this.
rlsmith5 Nov 14, 2:54 p.m.
I had business dealings with SAS for at least 15 years and found them to be outstanding in how the conducted business and how they treated there employees. I just wish we had more people like Jim Goodnight who not only runs a terrific business , but also cares the same about the employees. Congratulations and keep up the GREAT IMAGE.
immaannoid Nov 14, 1:30 p.m.
"SAS is NOT beholden to Wall St. "
That's a good thing.
harinootsak Nov 14, 1:21 p.m.
SAS is NOT beholden to Wall St. SAS employees ARE beholden to Goodnight. It is a software plantation, and the crop is software leased to their customers annually. It is an arcane business model, a legacy of IBM mainframe days, but it works. SAS's customers derive savings and profit orders of magnitude more than what the software and services cost. There is no true competition (at this large-scale price point). Say your nay, but you are looking at an outlier in American business, a very successful outlier. One doesn't have to approve or like SAS, but one best be impressed with the juggernaut @ Harrison/I40.
Just Once Nov 14, 1:17 p.m.
You are all correct - I would MUCH rather be working at Target at midnight on Thanksgiving hoping I will have a job on December the 26th.
silvfx Nov 14, 12:11 p.m.
wow thats alot of ugly talk. I wonder how many of these so called SAS experts have started their own companies from scratch and built it into a multi billon dollar enterprise. I wonder how many of them would even know what SAS does and how their products impact the world.
immaannoid Nov 14, 11:38 a.m.
"When you begin making a decision on whether or not to accept a position, I hope you don't base it on salary alone."
Nope. I can't imagine that anyone would.
offthegrid7165 Nov 14, 10:40 a.m.
Goodnight doesn't just cut jobs without a really good reason, especially when they are bringing in more revenue than ever! lucasd06
Depends on what you consider a "good" reason... or more accurately... what Jim considers to be a "good" reason. Just watch the news my friend...you'll see.
CuriousT Nov 14, 10:39 a.m.
When you begin making a decision on whether or not to accept a position, I hope you don't base it on salary alone. Benefits do have a $$ value. Some of those benefits can be a major savings to you in both time and $$. Adding those benefits $$ to your base salary can ultimately mean you make far more than you believe you do. If those benefits aren't taxable, then you might be "making out like a bandit".
I know you know what your benefits cost you. Have you ever looked at what your benefits cost your employer? That's a savings (to you) that you'd otherwise have to pay. Think about it the next time you enroll for your benefits with your employer.
It's not always an US (employees) versus THEM (employers) situation.
immaannoid Nov 14, 10:30 a.m.
"Anywho, I'll stop bickering here. I hope you all have a great Wednesday and let's all be happy, the sun is actually out today!"
Okay. Have a good day!
m0nky Nov 14, 10:16 a.m.
sarge, i don't think you know what out sourcing means.
jginnc Nov 14, 10:12 a.m.
"WOW now they give awards for outsourcing... lol"
Nice try Sarge. Since you're so well versed on running a multinational company please explain to me your business model to sell software in, for example, Singapore, Australia, and New Zealand if you are only employing staff in the United States.
storchheim Nov 14, 10:07 a.m.
"You can always tell the comments written by people who have applied to work at SAS, but haven't been hired!" tarheelnative
Does your mother consider THAT nice?
karrgal77 Nov 14, 10:06 a.m.
SAS isnt the wonderful land they make it out to be. All employees are in the pressure cooker constantly. And to reward you for your hard work, they axe a whole department to outsource and then find excuses as to why so they dont have to pay unemployment. Watched it happen multiple times.....
UpChuck Nov 14, 10:03 a.m.
Good to see the boo birds are out this morning. Don't know where everyone gets their information. The employee benefits are out of this world. Maybe the pay is below average, but you are not going to hear anyone there complain. Just went their the other day to Building C to eat luch with a high school friend that has been there for 10+ years...all I can say is "wow".
LuvLivingInCary Nov 14, 9:46 a.m.
overpriced products and underpaid employees. corporate dream.
NCSUEngineerFC Nov 14, 9:43 a.m.
I reread your post and maybe by "IT" you mean information technology. In that case, I don't know what their going pay rate is for IT jobs.
Anywho, I'll stop bickering here. I hope you all have a great Wednesday and let's all be happy, the sun is actually out today!
NCSUEngineerFC Nov 14, 9:39 a.m.
immaannoid, how about an apple's to apple's comparison across two equivalent job titles/descriptions since you are absolutely sure that the pay is lower at SAS?
immaannoid Nov 14, 9:36 a.m.
"You can always tell the comments written by people who have applied to work at SAS, but haven't been hired!"
No, I have friends that work there and know the pay rate. It is lower than the other top companies in the Park. They will tell you themselves that they don't bust it like I do at my current job.
"My wife works there and I can tell you that the pay is not lower than average."
IT is definitely lower.
But, the benefits are good.
Sarge Nov 14, 9:33 a.m.
"To be eligible, a company must have more than 5,000 employees around the world with at least 40 percent of those based outside its home country."
WOW now they give awards for outsourcing... lol
harinootsak Nov 14, 9:29 a.m.
SAS airlines is cutting ranks not SAS software.
Zorg Nov 14, 8:59 a.m.
Never appealed to me. Pay is average, working from home is frowned on, tons of filters on internet access, and big boss man is watching you from his house on the hill. No thanks.
tarheelnative Nov 14, 8:49 a.m.
You can always tell the comments written by people who have applied to work at SAS, but haven't been hired! Let the negativity go, people! Didn't your mom teach you that if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all? Great honor, SAS!!! Congratulations to SAS and to all of the SAS employees!!!
lucasd06 Nov 14, 8:45 a.m.
@offthegrid.... Where do you get your information that they are cutting jobs? I think you're confusing SAS Institute, based in Cary, with the Scandinavian airline company which is cutting 800 jobs.
Goodnight doesn't just cut jobs without a really good reason, especially when they are bringing in more revenue than ever!
offthegrid7165 Nov 14, 8:26 a.m.
With... job cut to be announced by the end of the week...
NCSUEngineerFC Nov 14, 8:23 a.m.
"Good benefits, lower than average pay, but the employees don't have much of a sense of urgency." immaannoid
Why the negative comments? What can't you be happy that such a great company is driving our world, national, and local economies? My wife works there and I can tell you that the pay is not lower than average. On top of that, she and her team work very hard and have strict project deadlines.
immaannoid Nov 14, 8:09 a.m.
Good benefits, lower than average pay, but the employees don't have much of a sense of urgency.
Published: 2008-01-11 14:37:00
Updated: 2010-06-21 13:53:03