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  • Ken D. Nov 14, 4:44 p.m.

    "I've see how the IRS now targets the vocal R's for audits under Obama"

    No, you haven't, because they have done no such thing. You are making that up, just like 95% of the nonsense that comes out of the mouths of the phonies who call themselves conservative these days.

    The way I figure it, anybody who could actually believe the garbage Republicans claim isn't smart enough to serve in an elected office.

  • G-man Nov 14, 4:41 p.m.

    We need a third party, The Welfare Party. Talk about a bought and paid for vote.

  • scoutmomx2 Nov 14, 3:45 p.m.

    Years ago I was forced to choose a party if I wanted to vote in the primaries. When that was no longer the case, I returned to being unaffiliated. I am neither Republican or Democrat - don't fit either profile. I haven't just moved here from out of state or recently become disillusioned with a particular party. I am not part of the "persuadable universe." I have my beliefs, opinions and values. My son, voting for the first time this year, is unaffiliated as well. We want to be able to vote for who we think is the best candidate, not for a particular party - good, bad or ugly. The down side? You get spammed, robocalled and junk mail from both parties.

  • baldchip Nov 14, 3:36 p.m.

    The party's themselves have caused this issue. In addition, we have caused all the issues in Congress by sending die hard libs and conservatives instead of moderates to DC.

    We are paying for those mistakes.

  • Minarchist Nov 14, 3:34 p.m.

    I'd be happy to vote for Reagan again (assuming he's alive, cogent and eligible) but sadly the current republican party would never nominate him.
    junkmail5
    November 14, 2012 2:37 p.m.
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    So true! Reagan would be a flaming socialist, liberal, illegal immigrant lover.

  • AFSC426X3 Nov 14, 3:14 p.m.

    One more advantage to being registered as Unaffliated. You don't get as many of the phone calls and as much of the garbage mail as the registered donkeys and elephants do. Unaffliateds very seldom if ever get thier person in office though.

  • anderson Nov 14, 3:00 p.m.

    How was Reagan a conservative? He tripled the debt

    In his deal with the Dems, the Dems agreed to cut spending for every dollar of tax increases...Reagan's big folly was trusting the Dems to keep their word...oh, and he inherited such a mess ;)

  • anderson Nov 14, 2:59 p.m.

    I will always remain unaffiliated and vote for the candidate I think will best represent the country. From my observations, it won't be a Republican anytime soon.

    Sound like a Democrat to me

  • junkmail5 Nov 14, 2:37 p.m.

    Conservatism won easily with Reagan and with a REAL conservative would win again today
    anderson

    Ronald Reagan would be thrown out of the convention center as a raging liberal by the current Grover Norquist worshiping Republican party...

    That's a major part of their current problem.

    What's funny is, Norquist claims he came up with his pledge because of Reagan- despite the fact Reagan not only didn't sign it, he repeatedly violated it during his presidency.

    I'd be happy to vote for Reagan again (assuming he's alive, cogent and eligible) but sadly the current republican party would never nominate him.

  • McLovin Nov 14, 2:13 p.m.

    I will never vote again - 90% of the posts on here are referring to elections as a game with the win/lose comments...thats sad...the people we vote into office decide the future and direction our country takes - right now we are in a losing direction, not like Romney wouldve corrected it...

  • godnessgracious2 Nov 14, 2:08 p.m.

    Conservatism won easily with Reagan and with a REAL conservative would win again today

    How was Reagan a conservative? He tripled the debt.

  • piene2 Nov 14, 1:28 p.m.

    "the bluebloods of the party are trying to bury the conservative priciples that I hold dear.
    anderson"

    Yes they are indeed and the hope of that happening is their only real chance for their future.

  • NotUrTypicalAmerican Nov 14, 1:14 p.m.

    I will always remain unaffiliated and vote for the candidate I think will best represent the country. From my observations, it won't be a Republican anytime soon.

  • anderson Nov 14, 1:13 p.m.

    "the Repubs put up too many moderate candidates...the bluebloods of the party are trying to bury the conservative priciples that I hold dear"

    You must really enjoy losing.

    Conservatism won easily with Reagan and with a REAL conservative would win again today

  • dontstopnow Nov 14, 1:03 p.m.

    "What good would that do! Politicians lie religiously... and tell voters what they want to hear. Most voters are NOT keeping track of laws, let alone, reading any of them, or the executive orders being signed. They simply listen to talking points, and can't even get those right.... You want to impact this country.. you'll have to try another approach. Talk is CHEAP! Action.. now there's something to talk about..."
    offthegrid7165

    You are right, talk is cheap. Action is much better but what sort of action do you recommend? Your comments about people not being informed is not true about me. I read and research ALL the candidates and their past history with legislative issues if they are a current member of any branch of the government. I vote based on their actions not their words. I am not an uninformed voter, yet, my voice is the one that is not heard much like others on this blog that are tired of the way our officials perform their duties.

    So I ask again, just what do you suggest no

  • cad Nov 14, 1:02 p.m.

    I am registered as a republican but I vote for the candidate I feel would do the best. I do NOT vote on social issues. I vote for one that can run a business. After all think about this...government is...a business.

  • davidk_at_unc Nov 14, 12:11 p.m.

    " "All votes for anyone other than the second place are votes for the winner"

    that assumes the person would have voted for the second place candidate instead of the first place candidate."-- whatelseisnew

    No it doesn't. If you vote for the first place candidate, you're OBVIOUSLY voting "for the winner". Your statement makes no sense at all!

  • offthegrid7165 Nov 14, 12:07 p.m.

    Well, markets continues downward while gold moves upwards... classic "bad economy" sign... Strikes in Europe and Spain while Greece prepares to burn... Not much time left folks...

  • junkmail5 Nov 14, 12:07 p.m.

    that assumes the person would have voted for the second place candidate instead of the first place candidate. - whatelseisnew

    No, it doesn't. Read it again.

    "All votes for anyone other than the second place are votes for the winner"

    If you wouldn't have voted for the second place candidate then your vote IS for the winner. Regardless of if it's directly for the winner, or a third party that finishes with

  • Thought Criminal WS Nov 14, 12:04 p.m.

    I registered as unaffiliated as I don't want to be on a list for either side to use for retaliation targets. I've see how the IRS now targets the vocal R's for audits under Obama and that he's adding 16K new IRS "troopers" with Obamacare... I'd rather not be on a convenient list to know who to target.

  • Objective Scientist Nov 14, 11:59 a.m.

    As an Independent... I hear/read about Repubs "wringing their hands" and saying something along the line of "we must do a better job of 'getting our message across'." I do not believe the problem lies with the clarity of the Republican message, rather the problem is with some significant parts of the message. Enough voters simply did not agree with what Repubs say they support and their vision of what the world should be like in the USA. But... big cautionary note to the Dems - even though you won the Presidency and some other seats as well - the electorate does NOT like everything you bring to the table. It is possible that Dems were seen as the "lesser of two evils" in this election. BOTH parties need to consider that possibility!

  • fl2nc2ca2md2nc Nov 14, 11:36 a.m.

    Exactly, nothing changes by switching your party to independent as long as you still vote for the two major parties. This duopoly is strangling our once great nation, from economically to constitutionally. One endless war after another... I am for a strong defense, but not endless nation building in our image. True national security is the only reason to go to war, not some dictator we used to like but don't like any more... At home, the melting pot has separated into groups pitted against each other as if we are enemies! We are all Americans, we need to regroup and throw all these bums out! The D(s) and R(s) are just in it for themselves, not the betterment of our country. Sad to have watched this happen just during my short lifetime.

  • whatelseisnew Nov 14, 11:30 a.m.

    "All votes for anyone other than the second place are votes for the winner", because by voting for other candidates, they have denied those votes to the second place candidate who could have won had they received them"

    that assumes the person would have voted for the second place candidate instead of the first place candidate. I don't buy that. One of the reasons for supporting a person other than DEM or Rep is in the next election cycle they have an easier time getting on ballots. Another product of this rigged system, is the Dems and Reps have done their best to keep third-party candidates off the ballots. Most over-whelming is the huge money flows that go to Dems and Reps. That is hard to beat.

  • whatelseisnew Nov 14, 11:27 a.m.

    When I vote, if I can not support either candidate and there is not a third viable option, then I do not vote for anyone running for that given post. Right now there is no one in office at the Federal level that has received a vote from me.
    Had the people controlling spending in this country operated under a much sounder fiscal policy we would have and should have NO DEBT. Imagine the difference that would have made when that Financial meltdown happened. The MAIN difference; it would not have happened in the first place. Granted investment banks and the big banks contributed to that in a big way, but the Federal Government bears a huge part of the blame for that meltdown and they escaped consequences and they typically end up doing.

  • Save It Nov 14, 11:25 a.m.

    I keep telling everyone it's like being forced to chose between getting shot in the left or the right foot. It's gonna burn either way.

  • Save It Nov 14, 11:24 a.m.

    "the Repubs put up too many moderate candidates...the bluebloods of the party are trying to bury the conservative priciples that I hold dear"

    You must really enjoy losing.

  • Save It Nov 14, 11:23 a.m.

    "171,000 more voters backed Pat McCrory, the Republican candidate for governor, than voted for Mitt Romney"

    That would be me on my unaffiliated ticket. It was easy to spot the straight ticket voters. Some were in the booth for under sixty seconds.

  • whatelseisnew Nov 14, 11:16 a.m.

    I would love to see both parties disappear. Between the two they have destroyed us. Most of the members of both parties have focused on their own personal gains. That has gotten us to over 16 trillion in debt and rising. Rule of law is little more than a joke now. Despite the serious problems, both sides still just focus on holding power and nothing more. I have no idea how future generations are going to be able to pay off all the accumulated debt. Not just Federal, our States and Counties and Cities also pour on debt. I was disappointed to see the voters here pass every bond issue on the ballot. I know I won't see nickel one of the Federal debt paid off and probably not the State either. Part of our problem though, is too many people believe in all these Government Handouts, despite the fact they are not sustainable. We need serious, deep cuts in ALL spending and if we are to be using a "balanced approach" to borrow a lie, to make that true, ALL PEOPLE must pay more taxes.

  • me2you Nov 14, 11:15 a.m.

    "Most voters are NOT keeping track of laws, let alone, reading any of them, or the executive orders being signed. They simply listen to talking points, and can't even get those right...."

    While I agree, it's also very difficult for most people to keep up with all that goes on on the Federal level. Gov't has gotten way too big and you need a degree in gov't, or it's a part-time job to keep up.

  • me2you Nov 14, 11:13 a.m.

    Are the Libertarians finally gonna have a chance?

  • Ken D. Nov 14, 11:03 a.m.

    "Also important: A fair number of unaffiliated voters are behaving like loyal Republicans or Democrats but have chosen not to declare themselves for one reason or another." from this article.

    I believe that understates the reality. I think there is greater evidence that MOST unaffiliated voters behave like loyal Republicans or Democrats.

  • junkmail5 Nov 14, 10:57 a.m.

    ""I had friends tell me that to vote for a third party was a vote for the other guy;" Your friend is about as bright as a busted light bulb.- Grand Union

    No, that's actually a pretty well established rule in political science... it's also why first-past-the-post voting like the US uses tends, very strongly, to end up with a 2 party system (this is called Duverger's law)....

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-past-the-post_voting#Tactical_voting

    "All votes for anyone other than the second place are votes for the winner", because by voting for other candidates, they have denied those votes to the second place candidate who could have won had they received them

  • offthegrid7165 Nov 14, 10:37 a.m.

    This is a wonderful thing! After reading this article yesterday, I have decided the best thing for this country would be if every single voter that is not 'married' to a party line just go switch to unaffilated. This would become the largest voting block in the country and force both sides to reconsider their partisan views on the issues that impact US the voters. I will be switching my party over to unaffiliated the very first day I can get to the election board location in this county!
    Heavenly...

    What good would that do! Politicians lie religiously... and tell voters what they want to hear. Most voters are NOT keeping track of laws, let alone, reading any of them, or the executive orders being signed. They simply listen to talking points, and can't even get those right.... You want to impact this country.. you'll have to try another approach. Talk is CHEAP! Action.. now there's something to talk about...

  • offthegrid7165 Nov 14, 10:33 a.m.

    I see stocks CONTINUE to fall...

  • pappybigtuna1 Nov 14, 10:23 a.m.

    Does the word - "representative" mean anything to the bloggers here?

    The majority is electing men/women to office that are telling us what they will do. What happened to the "voice of the people" that the representative said he/she wanted to "serve"

    We the People have no say in what is going on, the media has created an atmosphere for the people to fight amongest our selves, if the media can keep the pot stirred up with "hatred" of each other, we will not look at what is truly going on

  • CestLaVie Nov 14, 10:08 a.m.

    I, too, am registered Unaffiliated. So is my hubby. We did this for 2 reasons: (1)so NEITHER of the 2 major parties could count on us to follow their rhetoric or sway, & (2)to cut down on political robo calls, which I find JUST as offensive as other unwanted phone calls. Like others have said, the phone part backfired, but this past spring I had our landline taken out. This election, it was REAL quiet at our house. :)

    We tend to be fiscally conservative & socially moderate to conservative. The Dems are over the edge, IMHO. The Repubs are way out of whack too. Unaffiliated allows us to pick & choose, which is what we did last week.

  • Reformed Liberal Nov 14, 9:51 a.m.

    I'm Unaffiliated because there is no Middle-Ground Party. And voting for a third-party candidate does no good when most of them are even more nuts than Dems and Repubs. So I vote for none of the above.

  • carlostheass Nov 14, 9:47 a.m.

    "I choose neither !!!" -- davidgnews

    Amen!!

  • dontstopnow Nov 14, 9:45 a.m.

    This is a wonderful thing! After reading this article yesterday, I have decided the best thing for this country would be if every single voter that is not 'married' to a party line just go switch to unaffilated. This would become the largest voting block in the country and force both sides to reconsider their partisan views on the issues that impact US the voters. I will be switching my party over to unaffiliated the very first day I can get to the election board location in this county!

    I really am tired of it being all or nothing with both the major parties.

  • krimson Nov 14, 9:31 a.m.

    "I changed my registration from Republican to Unaffilliated a couple years ago for 2 reasons. One was so I could vote in the BadDayForButch: "Democratic primary to vote for the weakest candidates (I learned that from the Democrats in 2008) I also was hoping that I wouldn't receive as many political calls, mailings etc. That backfired. Instead of just getting bothered by one party, I got bothered by both parties."

    I've been UNA forever precisely b/c you could vote in any Primary. And like you said, I have taken advantage of that to vote against candidates from either party that I thought were totally inappropriate. In the latest GOP Primary, I voted against Tedesco and Goldman, but they still carried the Nomination...

    And yeah, I've had the same experience getting bombarded with calls... I started telling anyone that called that I was an Illegal Alien and that I had already voted several times...

  • Da Toy Maker Nov 14, 9:13 a.m.

    Hah. I knew I was the trend setter when I registered as Unaffiliated. See.

  • Grand Union Nov 14, 9:05 a.m.

    "And why should they????......what we have today in Washington is...fill MY pockets republicans...or...empty YOUR pockets democrats...either way the absoulte backbone of America...the middle class and small business, looses...!!!!"

    and please show us when it was ever any different?

    I'm an independent because I doubt any party will ever be 100% right.

  • anderson Nov 14, 8:57 a.m.

    I'm going to change from Repub to unaffiliated too...the Repubs put up too many moderate candidates...the bluebloods of the party are trying to bury the conservative priciples that I hold dear.

  • Grand Union Nov 14, 8:54 a.m.

    ""I had friends tell me that to vote for a third party was a vote for the other guy;"
    Your friend is about as bright as a busted light bulb. Vote for what you believe and dont let anyone try some reverse physcology nonsense on you. A vote for Mitt was a vote for Obama. Guy didnt have a chnace. They are the only ones to blame."

    so who else had a chance? Certainly not the Libertarian candidate.
    Reality is very few of us get exactly what we want in our candidates and so voting for the one that gets closest and has a reasonable chance to win makes perfect sense.

  • SmokeWagon Nov 14, 8:52 a.m.

    ..."Democrat? Republican? More voters choose neither..."

    And why should they????......what we have today in Washington is...fill MY pockets republicans...or...empty YOUR pockets democrats...either way the absoulte backbone of America...the middle class and small business, looses...!!!!

  • sillywabbitthepatriot Nov 14, 8:51 a.m.

    Time for a third party folks because the other two will never compromise.

  • davidgnews Nov 14, 8:51 a.m.

    I had friends tell me that to vote for a third party was a vote for the other guy;RudeDawg

    That's because they didn't have the guts to vote the same way and exercise REAL term limits. Don't let them sway you.

  • Minarchist Nov 14, 8:32 a.m.

    "I had friends tell me that to vote for a third party was a vote for the other guy;"

    Your friend is about as bright as a busted light bulb. Vote for what you believe and dont let anyone try some reverse physcology nonsense on you. A vote for Mitt was a vote for Obama. Guy didnt have a chnace. They are the only ones to blame.

  • Minarchist Nov 14, 8:29 a.m.

    I cant beleive people still choose to vote for the two party perpetual circle of death. It felt good voting FOR something last Tuesday and not having to vote for the lesser of two evils just to vote against someone. And the GOP wonders why they got a smackdown. Easy answer....you chose Romney.

  • PanthersFan45 Nov 14, 8:25 a.m.

    For the life of me I do not understand why anyone would want to be in a political party. In fact just look at this message board on a dialy basis. I've been an independent voter all my life and I usually look at all issues with an open mind. There have been days on these boards where Liberals think I'm a right wing nut ... others where Republicans think I'm a Liberal. What they fail to realize is there are some people who do actually find faults in a person, politcal party has NOTHING to do with it. Being narrow minded has never worked in life for anything, politics is NO EXCEPTION. What it boils down to is more people are choosing to think for themselves, they don't need a "set of rules" that they must abide by that come from some sort of establishment. My advice ? try thinking outside the box for once.

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