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  • ConservativeVoter Nov 8, 6:40 p.m.

    They should eliminate NC-12 and go exclusively with ferries and aircarft to get to the outer banks.

    The outerbanks are sandbars which move as they are affected by hurricanes and nor-easters.

    Trying to keep a paved road on these moving sandbars is a lesson in futility.

    As Einstein said, doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result is the definition of insanity.

  • ConservativeVoter Nov 8, 6:37 p.m.

    Instead of tolling NC-540 and I-95, they should toll NC-12 and let the businesses and tourists who benefit from the highway pay for it's maintenance and upkeep.

  • whatelseisnew Nov 8, 5:59 p.m.

    "Where else do the powers that be see the point in continually building and rebuilding a road on a sandbar? How environmentally sound is that? Is the emphasis on a sound environment or on creating tourist dollars?"

    When their is potential taxes to be collected, the Government will always opt for the taxes.

    "Every time this comes up I have to come on here and remind everyone that Hatteras Island contributes way more tax revenue to the state than what it costs to fix the road every year or two."

    Yeah sure they do. Maybe what we need is to have a toll on that road, so that it pays for itself. In the meantime, the State is scalping us on fuel taxes and the DOT whines it has no where near enough money. Course it would have been helpful if Easley and his minions had not robbed the Highway Trust Fund for years.

  • readit Nov 8, 3:33 p.m.

    Our coastal land is ment to move with the wind, rain, and storms. Stop trying to "rebuild" the dunes let them move naturaly. If some people can't live with that ecosystem maybe we should let it be for those that can handle it.

  • silverflash Nov 8, 3:04 p.m.

    i say don't rebuild. instead, just run ferrys and let people drive on the sand.

  • Glass Half Full Nov 8, 2:38 p.m.

    Where else do the powers that be see the point in continually building and rebuilding a road on a sandbar? How environmentally sound is that? Is the emphasis on a sound environment or on creating tourist dollars?

  • rocket Nov 8, 2:29 p.m.

    Every time this comes up I have to come on here and remind everyone that Hatteras Island contributes way more tax revenue to the state than what it costs to fix the road every year or two.

  • Glass Half Full Nov 8, 1:04 p.m.

    Not a slow learner, a realist. If folks want to visit let them use their 4 wheel drive vehicles, or rent one.

  • btneast Nov 8, 12:54 p.m.

    Throwing money away that this state can't afford to do. I hear all about tourism and all this other stuff, but living on a barrier island is a choice.

    I see we have a slow learner here. Its not about living there, its about VISITING there. The state cannot afford to cut off that revenue stream. That area generates positive cash flow for the state in taxes from tourism. If it was not such a cash cow, and it was only residents there, the state's reaction would be MUCH different.

  • sunshineonmyshoulder Nov 8, 12:34 p.m.

    I think the answer may lie in a few new ferry terminals and four wheel drive vehicles.

  • Glass Half Full Nov 8, 12:06 p.m.

    I have to wonder how many more millions, or even billions, of dollars are going to be spent on NC Highway 12 just so the next storm can take it out again? This is pure folly. Throwing money away that this state can't afford to do. I hear all about tourism and all this other stuff, but living on a barrier island is a choice. Having a buisness on a barrier island is a choice. If one is going to chose to live or work this way then they should also accept the fact that a stable road is not possible and the state can't afford to keep building a new one. Home owners, business owners, and visitors alike should shoulder the responsibility of getting themselves around on such land if this is where they choose to be. If this were something that happened once in a blue moon, I might could understand it, but it happens every year, sometimes more than once. It's got to stop.

  • btneast Nov 8, 11:06 a.m.

    An elevated road is the best answer

    .....Besides being a VERY different geology than the Keys, which is the main reason an elevated causeway hasn't already been done, you could likley rebuild the road quite a few times for what an elevated causeway would cost. The biggest issue is the interference that would come from NPS. Rebuilding the existing road does not require enviromental impact studies and the numerous lawsuits that will come from enviromental groups if such a bridge would be built....case in point is going on there right now. The legal wrangling has been going on for years. One of the proposals is in fact a causeway, just can't get it , or any of the alternatives approved.

  • dsroyston Nov 8, 10:31 a.m.

    I have to agree with most of the people commenting here. An elevated road is the best answer. Won't wash away (if done correctly but we all know how NC DOT works) and then it's done and people can leave safely even if water starts to rise quickly. Come on NC DOT, let's get some people with brains in there!

  • Capt Mercury Nov 8, 10:30 a.m.

    The definition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting a different outcome. The NC DOT (and the political dogs that wag that tail) is certainly INSANE!

  • Scubagirl Nov 8, 10:11 a.m.

    "How about building an elevated road like the Florida Keys have? Do it once and do it right...
    Tarheel born"

    I think this should have been done DECADES ago. Hwy 12 has been washing out since it was built, you'd think they'd have figured this out by now. The elevated road might be initially pricey but I'm guessing it would pay for itself fairly quickly

  • btneast Nov 8, 10:11 a.m.

    How much longer is my tax dollar going to keep being spent on a road that has to be repaired every high tide? It looks like after spending tax money every year, the state would declare it a private road and let those dumb enough to build on the beach pay for it! I am tired of paying for a road I will never use!

    Its not about the people that "live on the beach". Its about protecting the tourism income from that area. Dare County contributes far more tax dollars than they consume to the state tax coffers. That area helps pay for things all over the state, thus reducing your tax burden. Close up the NC Coastal areas, and your taxes would go into orbit. By the way, the overwhelming majority of folks down there are year round , working class folks that have been there for generations. Sure, there are some ritzy beach houses, but there are WAY more off the beach homes of fishermen, clammers, merchants, etc.

  • btneast Nov 8, 10:06 a.m.

    How about building an elevated road like the Florida Keys have? Do it once and do it right

    Can't. Keys has a different geology that allows bridge pilings to be anchored permanently. OBX has a different geology that will not allow that.

  • Tarheel born Nov 8, 9:36 a.m.

    How about building an elevated road like the Florida Keys have? Do it once and do it right...

  • RAA0013 Nov 8, 8:34 a.m.

    The Outer Banks are an important part of our state's tourism industry so we shouldn't just write it off. And they are NC residents too. However, that being said, some one needs to come up with a new type of road or road building material for out there that can withstand these storms, the weight of the sand, etc. Come on inventive people - make your mark and find the solution!

  • luvstoQ Nov 8, 8:29 a.m.

    Seems like it would be cheaper for the state in the long run to have/offer mandatory buyouts for residents, then let the ocean have the road that it has claimed anyway! The *fixes* they are doing now will ALWAYS be temporary. Move out people, this can't be that much fun to you!!

  • Disabled Vet Nov 8, 8:19 a.m.

    How much longer is my tax dollar going to keep being spent on a road that has to be repaired every high tide? It looks like after spending tax money every year, the state would declare it a private road and let those dumb enough to build on the beach pay for it! I am tired of paying for a road I will never use!

  • Wendellcatlover Nov 8, 8:02 a.m.

    But please....let's just repair that road again at the cost of millions of dollars instead of finding an alternative!

  • roncooksr Nov 7, 6:39 p.m.

    more of our tax money washed out to sea for just a few. maybe the next hurricane that we have inland we can get some of our tax money to do repairs. pay for that out there and you can't even drive on the beach. we see nothing for it. maybe it is time they out there move inland and let it all wash out to sea

  • UNCfuturealumi Nov 7, 4:50 p.m.

    Maybe Perdue will send the money she will spend on her island vacation (she will definitely take another one). That was her first move after her election, go to a far away island and think about the next four years of ripping off the citizens of NC. I am so glad you are about to leave the manse.

  • Damien Thorne Nov 7, 4:15 p.m.

    "It would be great if people would spend a little of their profit and get insurance. It is not my responsiblity to provide you with my tax money because you didnt want to pay for insurance. The American people have stopped working and instead have both arms out to get free handouts."-----superman

    I would like to agree with you, however after speaking with my parents that live in that area it would seem to be a different situation from what you might think. While there were some beach houses that had damage the majority of damage actually some inland with flooding. Some of these people are still cleaning debris from Irene up.

    Bottom line, after speaking with some people there it is not just the beach that has issues, there are a lot of older folks not too near the beach of limited means that really could use some help.

  • working for deadbeats Nov 7, 4:05 p.m.

    I hate it for them, but I'm giving any money to people who built their house on sand. It's a gamble and that's what insurance is for. And who is Bev Perdue?

  • catwoman2 Nov 7, 4:03 p.m.

    superman you are correct, and NOW it is going to be oh so much worse.......Why should ANY of us work??? That is what I just do not understand for the life of me......

  • offroadn2 Nov 7, 3:53 p.m.

    Just a thought, why not treat the area like Corolla and have it strictly sand and used by 4x4 only. This seems to be happening every year and is costly.

  • superman Nov 7, 3:27 p.m.

    It would be great if people would spend a little of their profit and get insurance. It is not my responsiblity to provide you with my tax money because you didnt want to pay for insurance. The American people have stopped working and instead have both arms out to get free handouts.

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