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  • driverkid3 Nov 8, 12:36 p.m.

    I really hope one of the first things he does is get a voter ID passed, then clean the illegals out of this state. That alone will get rid of some of the waste.

    He is going to be one of the best things to happen to NC in over a hundred years.

  • Tarheel born Nov 8, 12:09 p.m.

    You touch my pension I worked hard for, earned every penny of, was injured on the job keeping the public safe so I HAD to retire and contributed the majority of and I'll lead the fight to unseat anyone who attempts to do so. It's a contractural agreement so you really have NO choice! Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

  • eclluyando Nov 8, 10:32 a.m.

    Pat McCrory for President!!

  • sunneyone2 Nov 8, 10:31 a.m.

    ACTUALLY TsKaMF, the state health plan is peanuts. PEANUTS. My husband is a veteran (spent ten months of 2002 in Afghanistan earning his VA benefits), thank God, so he's able to get all of his healthcare through the VA because the State health plan barely covers ANYTHING. They have "plans" and the "better" coverage would cost him about $200 a month, just for himself. If we add our child, it goes up to $600 a month and that does NOT include dental. I work for a non-profit with about 25 employees and OUR health plan is better than the State's. How is it that the biggest "company" in North Carolina can't afford a better health plan (basically the more people covered in a plan the lower the costs - for example a Lowe's employee can put a spouse on a plan for $90.00 because it's a National company)? The state has cut the health plan to ribbons to save money because people like YOU don't want to pay benefits anymore. State benefits are NOT extravagant.

  • Plenty Coups Nov 8, 8:20 a.m.

    "The Tax Foundation ranks NC 31st overall!!!!! " - Plenty Coups

    westernwake-"I should also mention being ranked 31st overall in tax freedom day of April 11th is a very BAD thing. This means that 30 states pay off their state taxes earlier then you."

    You are mistaken. The lowest taxed states overall, such as Tennessee, get the 50th ranking (taxes are paid off by March 31st). It signifies the date in which all total taxes are paid off. A high taxed state such as NY is ranked 2. NC's ranking of 31st signifies the relatively early day of April 11th which is the point at which the average person's taxes would be entirely paid off if you started from January 1st (101 days). NC's ranking of 31st puts 30 states with a higher state tax rate. The corporate tax rate and per capita are different statistics from what I was arguing.

    Scroll down for the USA map:
    http://taxfoundation.org/tax-topics/tax-freedom-day

  • westernwake1 Nov 7, 7:57 p.m.

    "The Tax Foundation ranks NC 31st overall!!!!! " - Plenty Coups

    I should also mention being ranked 31st overall in tax freedom day of April 11th is a very BAD thing. This means that 30 states pay off their state taxes earlier then you.

  • westernwake1 Nov 7, 7:52 p.m.

    'westernwake- "What? The tax burden in the North Carolina is the second HIGHEST in the SouthEast. We are not below the national average in taxes."

    Actually, yes we are. Carolina Journal conveniently cherry picks the taxes to include in their misleading report (they include income taxes only). They leave out the very low property tax rate in NC. Once again, OVERALL taxes in NC are below the national average. The Tax Foundation ranks NC 31st overall!!!!!

    http://taxfoundation.org/state-tax-climate/north-carolina' - Plenty Coups

    So you post a link that shows that NC ranks 44th in business tax, NCs state and local tax burden is 16th nationally, North Carolina's top rate ranks 11th highest nationally, and our tax freedom day is April 11 (ranked 31st). This is NOT at all being ranked 31st nationally in tax rates.

  • miseem Nov 7, 7:46 p.m.

    By the way, that's $606 per month for coverage of a spouse.

  • miseem Nov 7, 7:43 p.m.

    westernwake1. There are all sorts of methods of revenue for states, counties and cities. Most of these surveys rely on just the most prevalent taxes that are charged by most states. They may not include special levies, school district taxes, city/county road maintence taxes, high fees, etc. The main thing is, try to figure out how some states seem to be offering the same services as other states at half the price. Do they have a special deal on asphalt? Their teachers work for half pay (that alone should bump NC up). Are all of their citizens healthy, gainfully employed at high paying jobs and not on Medicaid? There are hidden taxes and fees that are unique to some states and will not be picked up without a very detailed study. I have yet to see one. If NC actually pays such high fees, maybe we need to send about 20 auditors over to the "better" performing states and see how they get all these services so cheap.

  • Plenty Coups Nov 7, 7:33 p.m.

    westernwake-
    "What? The tax burden in the North Carolina is the second HIGHEST in the SouthEast. We are not below the national average in taxes."

    Actually, yes we are. Carolina Journal conveniently cherry picks the taxes to include in their misleading report (they include income taxes only). They leave out the very low property tax rate in NC. Once again, OVERALL taxes in NC are below the national average. The Tax Foundation ranks NC 31st overall!!!!!

    http://taxfoundation.org/state-tax-climate/north-carolina

  • miseem Nov 7, 7:29 p.m.

    TsKaMF-"BTW, just how much do state/ county employees pay for health insurance?"TsKaMF.
    As Plenty said, it's $666 for a family. But get this, it's $606 additional just to cover a spouse.

  • westernwake1 Nov 7, 7:22 p.m.

    "Overall NC taxes are below the national average." - Plenty Coups

    What? The tax burden in the North Carolina is the second HIGHEST in the SouthEast. We are not below the national average in taxes.

    N.C. Tax Burden Ranks Second-Highest in the South
    Tax Foundation study places Tar Heel State's tax burden at No. 17 nationally

    http://www.carolinajournal.com/exclusives/display_exclusive.html?id=9609

  • miseem Nov 7, 7:20 p.m.

    It says that NC's education system is better off than the nation's. NC voted against NC Dems. TsKaMF.
    But I thought NC's education system was atrocious. That's what the GOP has been saying for years. Plus, other states, such as SC, LA, MS who rate even lower than our "superlative" - according to you - education system elected republicans too! Think there's a connection? We can't let any of those states take our position at the bottom of the pile.

  • miseem Nov 7, 7:10 p.m.

    I'll still go out on a limb, and say we'll see some type of tax increase in the next two years. rebel.
    I'd bet with you on that one. All this talk about changing taxes means just one thing - lower corporate taxes (increased profits) and more fees and taxes on the middle class. Over the last few years, several pols have "suggested" ideas on taxing services. These include hairdressers, auto mechanics, plumbers, electricians. Guess what they do not usually include - attorneys, CPA's, financial advisors - the "professional" category. Of course, even the wealthy need a transmission job once in a while, but that cost hits a middle income person more. Most middle income people don't really use the services of the "professional" group at more than a basic level. The corporations and higher income people do. So although the tax will go down on that coat you bought at Walmart by a few cents, that water pump is going to cost you more. The upper income will see that fur coat cost go down

  • Plenty Coups Nov 7, 7:10 p.m.

    TsKaMF-"BTW, just how much do state/ county employees pay for health insurance?"

    It's all a matter of public record for the uninformed(you). A family plan (the 80/20 plan) cost $666 per month! Then there is the $2100 deductible and large co-pays.

    Rates:
    http://www.shpnc.org/library/pdf/annual-enrollment/active-retiree-rate.pdf

    Deductibles: (page 12)

    http://www.shpnc.org/library/pdf/benefit-book-standard-2012.pdf

    So what exactly is your point again?

  • Plenty Coups Nov 7, 6:59 p.m.

    TsKaMF-"No. Educate me old wise one. How spending less of MY/OUR $$ would increase unemployment. Let me guess fewer government jobs. If so GOOD!"

    You just answered your own question but then you dismissed public sector jobs as somehow unimportant. Hope you remember that when your kid has to go to an overcrowded school or the police show up just a bit late to your house when you need them, or the local prosecutor dismisses the assault case against the men that robbed you because of a lack of resources.

    "However, that's not happening."

    Guess you missed the thousands of state layoffs over the last 4 years.

    " Just NO more or RAISES that WE can't afford."

    Overall NC taxes are below the national average.

  • miseem Nov 7, 6:57 p.m.

    No I live in NC.Not all people have jobs & the ones that do DON'T get raises, extra vacation in lieu of & are just happy to stay employed. TsKaMF
    Right. Just be happy you are employed. That's been going around for the last 4 years and has been used to squeeze more out of workers, stop any pay increases, and shift more of the benefit costs to the workers while fattening the wallets of the CEOs. Three people doing the work five used to do, and having to work overtime with no increase in pay? Just be glad you have a job. Yet the very upper level of management and the Wall Street crews (who really don't "make" anything, they just shuffle money around and take a cut each time it moves) keep rewarding themselve with huge bonuses because they were able to "cut costs". Obviously, shared sacrifice only applies to those making 100K or less.

  • TsKaMF Nov 7, 6:57 p.m.

    "There has been a steady decline in the quality of education for years now all over the country. Just look at who was elected yesterday. That shows that point exceedingly well." -- Damien Thorne

    "How does the fact that McCrory got elected yesterday relate to your analysis of the nation's education system?"
    davidk_at_unc

    It says that NC's education system is better off than the nation's. NC voted against NC Dems.

  • Plenty Coups Nov 7, 6:55 p.m.

    "No I live in NC.Not all people have jobs & the ones that do DON'T get raises, extra vacation in lieu of & are just happy to stay employed"

    While certainly some people don't have jobs, almost all private sector employers have been giving pay raises over the last few years according to all employer surveys. Not state employees however.

    http://www.mercer.com/press-releases/1421605

    http://www.towerswatson.com/press/7856

  • disgusted2010 Nov 7, 6:32 p.m.

    Team approach? I guess that Bank of America and Duke Energy are the team.

  • TsKaMF Nov 7, 6:28 p.m.

    TsKaMF, you must be living in a different North Carolina than the rest of us. I have good friends who work for the state and their "raises" have been laughable, WHEN they've received any at all. For several years there were no raises and twice they received vacation time in lieu of raises. State salaries have definitely not kept up with the cost of living.
    "For all of you state employee bashers out there, pretend you are a state employee and you have to deal with someone with the same attitude as you: snarky, rude and impatient. You wouldn't care much for that, would you? Not all state employees are slackers. Some of them, yes, but there are a lot of good, dedicated employees who serve this state."Hippy_mom

    No I live in NC.Not all people have jobs & the ones that do DON'T get raises, extra vacation in lieu of & are just happy to stay employed.Keeping a job is how they keep up with the cost of living.I never said anyone was a "slacker". Just be happy with their job & benefits. Again, m

  • Rebelyell55 Nov 7, 6:27 p.m.

    As I've stated before, there is still waste that can be cut. Maybe they'll get around it. As for tax cut, that just for the Corp., not the average citizens. In fact, you can expect taxes to go up, it'll not a tax you'll recongize, but it'll be in increase fees for services we already pay taxes for. I'll still go out on a limb, and say we'll see some type of tax increase in the next two years.

  • Rebelyell55 Nov 7, 6:23 p.m.

    If you think it's so darned wonderful, why don't you apply for a state job!

    davidk_at_unc
    ......Actually I know several who try and get a state job and continue to try and get on. It's a sweet deal if ya can get it.

  • Rebelyell55 Nov 7, 6:13 p.m.

    @Truly American
    November 7, 2012 5:13 p.m........Like your post, but I want to add one thing. We're not the customer... We're the employers. That where their mentality is gone wrong. We pay for their salary and the outrages benefits and pension they, voted in. Would you let your employees vote their own raises, and benefit if you owned a company? This is where we need and amendment to the state consitution that only the voters can grant raises.

  • Rebelyell55 Nov 7, 6:08 p.m.

    I think the man will do just fine..give him a chance to correct the wrong. Looking forward to a change for sure.

    Big Mike
    November 7, 2012 5:37 p.m.
    .....I think your right. The only worry I had with him, was what I precivied as his willingness to sell our NC to Corp interest as the sake of the NC citizens and the future enviorimental state of NC. I remember our state history too well and saw what happen to the mountains due to Corp. own puppets of the state. Right now the Republican are pushing the fracking with some pretty questionable items in the bill, (allow gas companies to drill under your property with out approval?). I'm hoping he'll be the responsible person he claims to be to make sure this don't happen and that regulation are put in place and the gas companies held repsonsible if they don't follow regualtions.

  • TsKaMF Nov 7, 6:02 p.m.

    "You mean that pension plan that state employees contribute to every paycheck? And as for EXTRAVAGANT, it might be for someone at your socioeconomic level, but for most people (outside third world counties), it is hardly extravagant! If you think it's so darned wonderful, why don't you apply for a state job!"davidk

    If they are not "so extravagant" & just above "third world countries", why don't you apply for a private sector job ?! BTW, just how much do state/ county employees pay for health insurance? Thank you taxpayers!!

  • Hippy_mom Nov 7, 5:59 p.m.

    TsKaMF, you must be living in a different North Carolina than the rest of us. I have good friends who work for the state and their "raises" have been laughable, WHEN they've received any at all. For several years there were no raises and twice they received vacation time in lieu of raises. State salaries have definitely not kept up with the cost of living.

    For all of you state employee bashers out there, pretend you are a state employee and you have to deal with someone with the same attitude as you: snarky, rude and impatient. You wouldn't care much for that, would you? Not all state employees are slackers. Some of them, yes, but there are a lot of good, dedicated employees who serve this state.

  • jlp Nov 7, 5:56 p.m.

    "Yes, lie and then lie some more. If you keep repeating it someone might believe you." - Damien Thorne

    Oh really? So how exactly do you achieve small government? Cut the budget. How do you lower taxes? Cut the budget. How do you cut a budget that consists largely of payroll? You lay people off. Lay offs = losing a job.

    http://www.nccivitas.org/2012/reforms-needed-for-north-carolinas-ailing-pension-system/

    Here is the grand plan to end the pension. This is the think tank that will be driving the legislative agenda. What happens to existing pensioners when no one else is paying into the system? It runs out of funds or the tax payers take up the burden. Which do you think will happen? Basically the cowardly GOP way of ending the pension.

    See I have facts. Where are yours?

  • Big Mike Nov 7, 5:37 p.m.

    I think the man will do just fine..give him a chance to correct the wrong. Looking forward to a change for sure.

  • davidk_at_unc Nov 7, 5:25 p.m.

    "Cut my taxes and slash the extravagant pension that these state and county employees get.......also let them buy their own retirement healthcare just like I do!" -- nerdlywehunt

    You mean that pension plan that state employees contribute to every paycheck? And as for EXTRAVAGANT, it might be for someone at your socioeconomic level, but for most people (outside third world counties), it is hardly extravagant! If you think it's so darned wonderful, why don't you apply for a state job!

  • TsKaMF Nov 7, 5:23 p.m.

    "You do know that would increase unemployment rates right?"
    Lamborghini Mercy

    No. Educate me old wise one. How spending less of MY/OUR $$ would increase unemployment. Let me guess fewer government jobs. If so GOOD! However, that's not happening. Just NO more or RAISES that WE can't afford.

  • davidk_at_unc Nov 7, 5:16 p.m.

    "There has been a steady decline in the quality of education for years now all over the country. Just look at who was elected yesterday. That shows that point exceedingly well." -- Damien Thorne

    How does the fact that McCrory got elected yesterday relate to your analysis of the nation's education system?

  • Banned4Life Nov 7, 5:13 p.m.

    I'd like to be considered a citizen. I don't like being called a "customer". I'm just about tired of customer services being outsourced to call centers in India, and if McCrory is basing his customer service on any American corporations, we're all in big trouble. If we make it through the next 4 years without a total privatization of everything, we can count ourselves lucky. But I see a lot of problems on the horizon, and I really worry about the long term prospects for this state if the Corporaticons are in office for too long.

  • US VET Nov 7, 5:12 p.m.

    Just thank goodness the JOKER is gone. She will go down in history as nc's worst govenor.

  • Singlemalt Nov 7, 5:06 p.m.

    The man has been elected not even 24 hours ago and people are saying they wasted their vote? I voted for him, happy for it. However, I will just as quickly vote him out if he does not get this state back on track. We have had 20 years of Dem lack of leadership, give this man a chance. If the Dems were getting it done then he would not have won so overwhelmingly.

  • ckblackm Nov 7, 5:05 p.m.

    I wish the governor-elect success and hope he actually works on the economy and doesn't focus on social issues like the recently elected legislature.

  • paulawindley Nov 7, 4:55 p.m.

    Anybody is better than Perdue, or Easley, or Dalton, all from the same school... Thanks God they are all out of NC government!!!

  • rsmith6120 Nov 7, 4:54 p.m.

    Wow! Some folks here seriously need to get a grip..

    With the past two governors we have had, there is nowhere but up with Pat. Good ole' boy insider politics has atleast gotten a breather. If you think Walter had any different plans and wasn't going to follow suit with Bev and Sleasy, then you need to ditch the pipe..

    For the first time in a while, I have renewed hope for NC.

  • sunneyone2 Nov 7, 4:51 p.m.

    Crumps Br0thers you said "OH NOES!!!!!!1111 You better move, just to be safe."

    Why in the WORLD would I leave the state I was born and raised in just because people who aren't from here and don't live it like I do are here to destroy it? Yeah, you'd love it if those of us fighting to keep this state clean and beautiful would leave. It would make it easier for you to destroy it. Why don't YOU go back to where you came from?

  • davidgnews Nov 7, 4:50 p.m.

    I wish McCrory luck and skill. I think he's poised to do a good job, or at least hope so. I just hope he won't rubber stamp everything Berger and Tillis want.

  • 20K Nov 7, 4:42 p.m.

    Thank God North Carolina voters were smarter than most were!!!

  • exteacher Nov 7, 4:37 p.m.

    The legislature is now veto-proof, including being able to change the Constitution as they want to. McCrory is irrelevant, as those on Jones St. will be calling the shots now. Besides which, McCrory is owned by Art Pope and his ilk, so even if he had a good idea it wouldn't matter unless his owners sign off on it.

  • TsKaMF Nov 7, 4:30 p.m.

    It is not the State of NC's job to administer funds for an organization. If the Mob wants to extort funds...I mean the teachers union wants to collect dues then they should do it themselves. No payroll deductions by the State.

  • Damien Thorne Nov 7, 4:24 p.m.

    "Yup, A little mountain top mining in the west, some oil drilling in the east and fracking everywhere in between. We won't have clean water or a tourism industry anymore but at least we will be able to extract this precious 6 day supply of natural gas."-----godnessgracious2

    We can always call in your friends from the KKK and Democrat party to hold hands with you and sing kumbayah in front of the fracking machines. If they wear their robes and hoods it would make quite an impression.

  • Lamborghini Mercy Nov 7, 4:20 p.m.

    TsKaMF - PLEASE reduce ALL spending. Raises??? Unemployment in my county is 12%. Be happy to keep your job & benefits.

    You do know that would increase unemployment rates right?

  • TsKaMF Nov 7, 4:19 p.m.

    "Cut my taxes and slash the extravagant pension that these state and county employees get.......also let them buy their own retirement healthcare just like I do!!!!!!!" nerdlywehunt

    HEAR, Hear !!!

  • Damien Thorne Nov 7, 4:18 p.m.

    "You make me laugh. You realize the repubs control all three branches of government in NC now right. You WILL NOT get a raise. You MAY lose your job. You can kiss your pension goodbye. They don't care about you. You are just a line item on the budget that they want to cut to lower THEIR taxes. Good luck."----jlp

    Yes, lie and then lie some more. If you keep repeating it someone might believe you.

  • stormtrooper76 Nov 7, 4:16 p.m.

    I'm not a Republican or Democrat, but am encouraged by what I hear from Gov. Elect McCrory. I'm optimistically hoping that he governs our state with sound leadership and common sense critical visionary thinking.

  • godnessgracious2 Nov 7, 4:10 p.m.

    Yup, A little mountain top mining in the west, some oil drilling in the east and fracking everywhere in between. We won't have clean water or a tourism industry anymore but at least we will be able to extract this precious 6 day supply of natural gas.

  • genralwayne Nov 7, 4:06 p.m.

    "Education needs bad attention with its ranking, but to Republicans they only worry about cutting it."

    An education is only useful to those who want to work. Since the Dems have made it far more attractive to live off of the government dole, who needs an education? Close the schools and the Dems will have more money to give away to the undereducated. Then, these wonderfully unproductive folks can continue to vote the Dems into office - with their hands out. It's a delightful Marxist system! (Please - once again - note the dripping sarcasm.)

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