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lroberdel Nov 9, 7:46 p.m.
"I am so sorry Nancy that some people really somehow beleive your husband didn't kill you. They are definitely lacking something..." per dorindarindy
Correct. We're lacking evidence, a fair trial, a non-biased judge, a competant investigation, etc.
It is laughable to think an entire department would join hands to conspire to convict an innocent person. Whether you agree there was enough evidence to convict is one thing, but to think a bunch of officers would risk everything to convict someone just for one stat is unrealistic.
Yes, that never happens. Just ask the Central Park Five. Or Randall Adams. Or Cameron Todd Willingham. Whoops! Can't ask him! Or the West Memphis Three.
" He did it, found guilty by his peers not the police,..." Sherlock
Casey Anthony's peers found her not guilty. OJ's peers found him not guilty. What a relief that a jury can never be wrong.
Vanilla Skye Nov 9, 6:43 p.m.
I haven't had time to read the appellate brief yet, for those who have, what do you think his chances are?
FREE BRAD COOPER!!!
In Decisive Nov 9, 12:31 p.m.
"The only lies were made by police and State witnesses"
Not according to defense attorney Kurtz who told the jury in opening statements his client did lie.
lynne0312 Nov 9, 11:05 a.m.
"The point is police interview different people including the family and during that they will learn things they could check out as true or not true. If a spouse says things they find out are lies that's going to raise a red flag or 2 and cause a closer looksee."
The only lies were made by police and State witnesses.
Vanilla Skye Nov 8, 6:13 p.m.
Finally. Excellent News!!
Vanilla Skye Nov 8, 6:09 p.m.
Finally!! Good luck to Brad and his family.
I hope someday he is reunited with his daughters as well.
I never believed he killed Nancy.
This is excellent news.
In Decisive Nov 8, 5:40 p.m.
The point is police interview different people including the family and during that they will learn things they could check out as true or not true. If a spouse says things they find out are lies that's going to raise a red flag or 2 and cause a closer looksee.
viking416 Nov 8, 5:34 p.m.
Evidence was tampered with and then submitted as fact. The defense was blocked by a bias judge of disputing this evidence. The trial/investigation was a sham from day one.
ladyblue Nov 8, 3:59 p.m.
i am not 100% sure this man did kill his wife in this case..nor is anyone else posting...assuming don't make it right.....
dollibug Nov 8, 1:18 p.m.
OK...so the marriage was doomed...but there are a lot of marriages which are doomed...this does NOT PROVE that BRAD killed NC...and even though *domestic violence* was mentioned...there was NO EVIDENCE that Brad was a part of any...they both cheated...but this did not prove Brad was a killer either...there was a lot of *reasonable doubt* throughout the trial...and no *real evidence pointed that Brad was guilty*...the jurors convicted Brad on nothing but an illusion...the 42 second google search which was not proved that Brad did it...how anyone can even begin to think that there was *justice* for anyone is beyond me...innocent people are indicted, tried and convicted on no evidence does nothing to help the judicial system....it only makes things worse...as the real criminals are never found and punished...it was indeed a *tough break* for Brad and it just an injustice to Nancy and her family...
jackcdneh1017 Nov 8, 11:23 a.m.
Yes, in talking to the family, they would have learned that the marriage was doomed. But there was never any incidences of violence or financial control ( a 300/wk) household allowance after bills are paid is definitely not financial control). The family had a horse in the race following Nancy's death. Care and control of the Cooper children. Don't forget that Nancy cooper's family live in Canada while Brad's career was in NC. The thing is, all of the evidence of marital trouble does not a murderer make. There is zero evidence to believe that Brad Cooper Killed Nancy Cooper. There is eyewitness and physical evidence that Nancy Cooper was alive at 6:30 am. There is zero physical evidence that Brad Cooper killed his wife. ZERO.
jackcdneh1017 Nov 8, 11:13 a.m.
Anyone who says on here that Brad Cooper is guilty of this murder should post their thoughts on the evidence that convinces them. There is zero real evidence that exists of Brad Cooper's guilt. Nothing. I challenge anyone to list the actual evidence which says "he did it". The "smoking gun" in this case is the Google Map search and that is proven to be a complete fraud. All other evidence points away from Cooper and onto a random abduction and killing by unknown persons patrolling for a victim in the form of a lone woman jogger.
In Decisive Nov 8, 10:58 a.m.
Did it occur to anyone that police found out about the state of the marriage by talking to her family? It wasn't just friends. Her family flew into town and spent lots of time talking to police and providing background information.
jackcdneh1017 Nov 8, 10:48 a.m.
One of the most frightening aspects of a conviction like this is how easy it is for the state to control the evidence. Most of us (wrongfully) assume that police and prosecutors conduct honest and above board investigations. Imagine if you will that you are accused of murder and there is definite physical evidence that points away from you and toward someone else. Tire tracks and footprints leading right up to where Nancy Cooper's body were ignored and not preserved for trial just (in the form of castings) just on a "whim" by police investigators. Why? Because these did not match up with Brad Cooper's shoe prints or vehicles. The tactic of collecting evidence that serves only to advance the prosecution theory is called confirmation bias. Please examine the continual updating and changing of the "case narratives" by detectives in the Cooper case and you will begin to understand how wrongful convictions occur.
chattycat Nov 8, 10:18 a.m.
Oh bother. This man terrorized the neighborhood and was there living among us for months before he was FINALLY arrested. We know that he murdered his wife and he is right where he belongs!!!! jscott13
Oh the drama! There was no solid evidence against this poor guy. He will get a new trial, just you wait and see and unless the prosecutors find some real evidence, he will be found not guilty.
chattycat Nov 8, 10:07 a.m.
I feel bad for Brad Cooper because I believe there was a rush to judgement and a lot of hanky panky on the part of Cary PD (sorry, I'm not falling for the "Ooops, I erased and destroyed that cell phone by accident" story).
I feel very bad for Nancy and Brad's children...children who lost their Mom and then had their Dad turned into the patsy for a bunch of inept and dishonest cops.
And most of all I feel bad for Nancy Cooper who has received no real justice. affirmativediversity
Absolutely, could not agree more. The trial was a joke, and the judge was an even bigger joke. Nancy Cooper deserved better and Brad Cooper certainly deserved a fair trial which he did not receive.
pebbles262004 Nov 8, 10:04 a.m.
I'll bet (JA) is shaking in her boots, because they are going back to court........it's not over till it's over and the right person is behind bars...
In Decisive Nov 8, 10:02 a.m.
>>>Just how were the CPD so certain this was " not random" so very early in this case? Chief Bazemore made this statement within days of the crime
jackcdneh1017 Nov 8, 9:21 a.m.
"Not random". Just how were the CPD so certain this was " not random" so very early in this case? Chief Bazemore made this statement within days of the crime and it was an apparent attempt by her to satisfy public safety concerns. What this does speak of is that a rush to judgement occurred which led to tunnel vision and confirmation bias that Brad Cooper killed Nancy. To this day, there exists no evidence that Cooper killed his wife, zero (knowing that the google map search evidence is completely bogus). The fact is that police immediately believed one person, Jessica Adam, who made an extremely strange 911 call pointing the finger at Brad when Nancy was still just "missing". This sequence of events led police investigators down one path to the exclusion of all other scenarios thus permitting them to ignore for months evidence that people had seen Nancy Cooper on her jog that morning with reports of strange activity by two Hispanic men in a van.
In Decisive Nov 7, 7:12 p.m.
Not random just means the killer intended to murder that person, and was not looking for just any person to kill. Police and investigators can determine this by the crime scene, the cause of death, who the person is and other things. In this case they said the killer knew the victim and meant to kill that person. It is often someone in the victim's life who wants them dead, sometimes an estranged spouse or a bad breakup, fights over money or divorce assets or custody of children, problems in the family or any number of things.
Alexia Nov 7, 6:29 p.m.
I don't know that there was corruption, per se, but the trial was definitely biased toward the prosecution. Boz repeatedly said things that were not entirely true, yet he was allowed to say them. For example, there was the claim that Brad was only one of a small number who could fake a call. I could do that when I was 14. And while he kept repeating that, there was no evidence Brad had faked the call. The judge blocked perfectly good testimony so jurors could not hear the whole truth, such as the fact that the computer had been tampered with. Two experts testified to that, but not before the jury. But Boz knowing this to be true misled the jury into thinking Brad did the Google search that showed where the body was found.
OpenM1nd Nov 7, 6:22 p.m.
I suppose that leaves the butler as a suspect. Did he have one?
viking416 Nov 7, 6:03 p.m.
The defense tried to prove the google search was planted but the judge would not allow it. Both google and the cell phone company were never contacted to verify calls or search records until after the records had been purged. More great work by the CPD and just a little suspicious.
fromageball Nov 7, 5:56 p.m.
Brad Cooper deserves a new trial.
Maybe he did it, maybe he didn't, but it definitely wasn't proven in court. Besides, even if he conducted the google search, he searched for his own zip code(27518/Cary) and Nancy's body was found in a different zip code/different town(27606/Raleigh)
devilblue Nov 7, 5:08 p.m.
I still think her so called friend Jessica Adams knows something more and quite frankly was somehow involved. Something just didn't sit right about her whole testimony along with some of the other neighbors. I think the whole thing was some sort of love triangle gone wrong and BC was just convenient to blame. I followed the trial and watched it and never saw anything that I could have convicted him on. How can they prove the Google search was conducted by Brad?
JAT Nov 7, 4:41 p.m.
make that jack....
JAT Nov 7, 4:41 p.m.
juack - totally agree.
dollibug Nov 7, 4:05 p.m.
***This was a shameful railroading.
Corruption and cover up....the Magoo knew from the beginning that there was going to be an appeal....it makes one wonder if ALL of them were in on the *game of conviction*....
dollibug Nov 7, 4:03 p.m.
****This man terrorized the neighborhood...
Really????????????? And exactly what did he do while doing this????? Just wondering....as I guess I must have *missed this part*.....
Tarheel born Nov 7, 3:19 p.m.
Guilty then, guilty now and guilty again - if it gets past the appellate courts.
kikinc Nov 7, 3:05 p.m.
jackcdneh1017-Do you remember when Gessner denied yet another of the defense's requests, and then told the defense they could add it to the list for the appeal?
missparrothead Nov 7, 2:23 p.m.
jackcdneh1017 Nov 7, 2:16 p.m.
It is likely you will never see another trial where a judge was so blatantly biased in favour of the prosecution. Every ruling from the bench was consistent in damaging the defence case. Almost everyday, the defence lawyers were frustrated by completely unfair rulings that deprived Brad Cooper of due process under the law. Howard Kurtz and Robert Trenkle were forced almost daily to object on constitutional grounds this was never a case that BC "might" appeal. This is a case that completely cries out to be overturned on appeal. Judge Gessner, a former cop and prosecutor himself was so in the back pocket of the prosecution that he has become a total embarrassment to the judiciary. Please see his abrupt change of mind about his reasons for allowing BC's love letters from an old girlfriend into the trial. Judge Gessner was nothing short of a joke in this travesty of justice.
JAT Nov 7, 1:15 p.m.
jscott13 - but what proof was there? I think Gessner did alot that would be enough for an appeal. The cops did the rest.
charmcclainlovesdogs2 Nov 7, 1:11 p.m.
When he is found innocent, the state of NC will have to pay him for the time and days he spent in prison as the innocent man.
jscott13 Nov 7, 1:02 p.m.
Oh bother. This man terrorized the neighborhood and was there living among us for months before he was FINALLY arrested. We know that he murdered his wife and he is right where he belongs!!!!
viking416 Nov 7, 12:50 p.m.
Anyone who took the time to read about this case and watch the publicly available videos will know this case was a set up from the get go. CPD "DID NOT" do their job and overlooked and avoided evidence right from the start. Whether their obvious mistakes were intentional or not will come up later. In the meantime the appeal process needs to move forward NOW. This travesty of NC justice has gone on way to long.
charmcclainlovesdogs2 Nov 7, 12:46 p.m.
He should. I always have said that he was an innocent man.
jackcdneh1017 Nov 7, 11:19 a.m.
@ Sherlock. Defence lawyers (good ones anyway) don't handle appeals. Appellate law is a specialty in law. Your argument is like saying if your neurosurgeon was any good, he would deliver babies. Silly.
jackcdneh1017 Nov 7, 11:16 a.m.
According to the foreman of the jury, in the only communication from jurors in the Cooper case, the evidence which made them convict was that they believed that Brad Cooper conducted a Google map search of the very spot that Nancy Cooper's body was found on the day before she disappeared. This jury was NOT permitted to hear the evidence from TWO computer experts for the defence who made it very plain that Brad's computer was not secured in police custody and that the map search files were deliberately PLANTED on Cooper's computer. There is zero question that this actually occurred and the police, prosecutors and Judge Gessner know this is true. This is why such great effort was made by the prosecutors to prevent jurors from hearing this evidence and Gessner was complicit in his rulings from the bench and prevented Jay Ward and Giovanni Massucci from testifying to verify indisputably how this map search got on Cooper's computer. This was a shameful railroading.
lynne0312 Nov 7, 11:14 a.m.
"I cant remember if it was the cary mayor or police chief but before they even had a suspect they were bangin on about how this wasnt a random crime. Seems like they just wanted people to think cary was safe and any violence that goes on is domestic."
It was Chief Bazemore who said "this was not a random crime" and this was before any investigation took place. And this was *after* fellow citizens had contacted police to report that they believed they saw Nancy jogging. That information was not even shared with the media. They also didn't inform the media that the bleach rumor was false.
CPD should have had the media share details about the van sightings and asked people to call in if they saw a van matching the description of 3 local witnesses. Fail.
TeenDad4_WorldTour Nov 7, 10:59 a.m.
I cant remember if it was the cary mayor or police chief but before they even had a suspect they were bangin on about how this wasnt a random crime. Seems like they just wanted people to think cary was safe and any violence that goes on is domestic.
Milkman Nov 7, 10:54 a.m.
"CPD fouled the investigation then covered it's behind. The computers were tampered with by a NOVICE user who didn't do it right, which is why they were so adamant about not allowing the testimony to refute the evidence nor experts to speak as experts (even though the State has used one the experts in it's cases before as an expert)." - Thought Criminal WS
I could not agree more with your points. This seems to be a horrible miscarriage of justice, and we should look to put the Judge in this case behind bars, not Cooper.
southernborn24 Nov 7, 10:53 a.m.
Never believed this man to be guilty - too intelligent to make so many stupid mistakes. To much evidence on his side not allowed or tampered with. He deserves another trial.
dollibug Nov 7, 10:50 a.m.
The public might be quite shocked at what *law enforcement officers* are capable of doing....and it is quite interesting just how much these people can do and get by with doing such....I have been blessed (or cursed) with having a bird's eye view of just what can or can not take place....and let me assure you, it was indeed an eye opening experience....it involved law enforcement using their authority to get a person arrested without even *verifying the so called warrant info* in several agencies and providing no proof of the warrant or the arresting officers even knowing what they were arresting the accused suspect of....and then the arresting officers actually made up false information on their reports of what took place when the person was arrested...(to try to prove that they had *probable cause* to push their way into a residence without a search warrant) and what they reported there was NO WAY that it happened.....(it was just a way to try to cover what they did)
Thought Criminal WS Nov 7, 10:22 a.m.
Hope to see justice here, this mans rights were trampled upon in court. If he's guilty find him guilty by law, not by railraoing him in Kangaroo style antics, which is exactly what happened.
They need examine Jessica Adams and her boyfriends involvement in regards to the public argument at Cameron village days before the murder. If Nancy Cooper was preggers with his kid that means the alienation of affection suits going on would have had much different results and a lot of money would change in those hands. Certianly more motive across the street than in the Coopers home.
CPD fouled the investigation then covered it's behind. The computers were tampered with by a NOVICE user who didn't do it right, which is why they were so adamant about not allowing the testimony to refute the evidence nor experts to speak as experts (even though the State has used one the experts in it's cases before as an expert).
carolinarox Nov 7, 9:53 a.m.
He did it, found guilty by his peers not the police, also why would someone tamper with just the computer? His lawyer was not that good if he was he could handle the appeal as well. Sherlock
Perhaps the person who killed Nancy Cooper tampered with his computer. Jessica Adam who reported Nancy missing is also a networking expert. Her whole story was fishy -- she said Nancy was supposed to help her paint, someone else testified that Nancy knew Brad had planned to play tennis (or something)and would stay with the girls. Plus, the prosecution didn't have much of a case. There was important computer forensic evidence that was not allowed and the jury should hear it. It was Nancy Cooper's cell phone that CPD erased, not Brad's.
ylmclean73 Nov 7, 9:34 a.m.
Brad Cooper is a Cisco Certified InterNetworking Expert.This means he is an expert on the Internet infrastructure. The last thing he would do is go on his computer and search anything related to a crime he was going to commit the next day. He understands that is like pasting a sign to his forehead. That made me very suspicious of the CPD. They wiped his Blackberry clean even though it tells you you've had 10 attempts you are about to completely erase all data from this device do you want to continue. They hit yes because they wanted that phone wiped clean there is no other explanation. They could have gotten a warrant and the provider would have unlocked it.I think they looked in it and there was nothing there so they erased it. Better to have speculation of what was there then nothing actually being of use found. Its simple why they wanted a quick conviction. To show crime doesn't go unsolved in Cary doesn't matter who gets convicted as long as someone does.
lec02572 Nov 7, 9:29 a.m.
Sherlock Nov 7, 9:19 a.m.
He did it, found guilty by his peers not the police, also why would someone tamper with just the computer? His lawyer was not that good if he was he could handle the appeal as well.
Published: 2008-01-11 14:37:00
Updated: 2010-06-21 13:53:03