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  • Nancy Oct 5, 7:56 p.m.

    ""His business" and his cronies will come first; the rest of us - good luck."

    Sadly, we have already experienced a very expensive "crony" payoff with Obama when he bought GM (unions won big at our expense) and paid back his Solyndra investors again, on our dime.

    That much 'business sense' he has displayed but nothing to benefit the country.

  • ccsmith1902 Oct 5, 7:40 p.m.

    Nancy: Obama gets it. Just because Romney has business experience does not a president make. It may help in some areas, but you also have to look at the man. In that respect, there is no way as an average citizen I would vote for Romney and get thrown under the bus. "His business" and his cronies will come first; the rest of us - good luck.

  • Nancy Oct 5, 7:22 p.m.

    "@ Nancy "You DO know who put that in place don't you?"

    Uh... loaning money has been around a while..." - moderator hater.

    Oh my goodness. See if you can address who allowed bad loans to people who couldn't afford the mortgages - there was a certain legislative (federal) policy put in place. Start there.

  • Nancy Oct 5, 7:20 p.m.

    "Being successful in business is not a credential to indicate that anyone is qualified to be the president of the United States, to think so is a fundamental misunderstanding of the purpose of government."

    Oh, ok. How's that working for the economy? Not too well. It was very clear in the debate that Obama believes stimulus spending is how you create jobs, we have seen that didn't work. Obama believes in using federal money to bail out private companies that he gets to choose, while other businesses fall off the cliff.

    Business experience does make a huge difference. And knowing the role of government is not to interfere selectively with private business but to encourage growth by getting out of the way and not over regulating, over taxing and burdening business with things like a health insurance mandate.

    We're experiencing his lack of experience in many areas, the economy being the main driver of our country. Consumer confidence has been at an all time low for his duration.

  • Nancy Oct 5, 7:15 p.m.

    "Hard to study for a test if you're working a full-time job." prodigalrn

    Stands by itself, doesn't it? - storcheim

    It certainly does.

  • Nancy Oct 5, 7:14 p.m.

    "The posts here show that racism is very much alive and well in North Carolina."

    It's very much alive everywhere and it's certainly not one sided.

    http://articles.philly.com/2012-10-04/news/34240191_1_t-shirt-republican-shirt-teacher

  • ccsmith1902 Oct 5, 6:29 p.m.

    The posts here show that racism is very much alive and well in North Carolina.

  • ccsmith1902 Oct 5, 6:27 p.m.

    ROMNEY DECLARES VICTORY AFTER ONE DEBATE!!!!!!
    One of the main things holding back progress in this country is the Republican's massive effort to block everything Obama has attempted, and the country has suffered. It is very disturbing to me that they have spent so much energy doing that instead of trying to move the country forward.

  • sweetums googoo Oct 5, 4:38 p.m.

    @BubbaDukeforPresident
    "We might actually be able to come back from the Democratic mess"

    Last time we had a GOP president we were losing 800,000 jobs a month and "too big to fail" banks were dropping like flies.... things were very dire...

    Is this the come back you were referring too? Or, was this sarcasm?

  • sweetums googoo Oct 5, 4:30 p.m.

    @ BubbaDukefor....
    ..."and decimating our defense programs"
    Actually it was the inability of congress to reach any compromise that will do this... It is very easy to ascribe all ones ills to the President, only, this one is on the Legislature... Just a fact.

  • storchheim Oct 5, 4:13 p.m.

    "Hard to study for a test if you're working a full-time job." prodigalrn

    Stands by itself, doesn't it?

  • BubbaDukeforPresident Oct 5, 4:12 p.m.

    It's not a tight race. Romney has already won. Get over it and be grateful your Messiah didn't get the chance to finish bankrupting our nation and decimating our defense programs. We might actually be able to come back from the Democratic mess if we get rid of Obama and his party of division and racism.

  • sweetums googoo Oct 5, 4:10 p.m.

    @ bi-conman
    Not sure what poll you are using or if this is simply wishful thinking on your part. Are you really ready for a Romney presidency? I only hope you are currently, ridiculously and independently wealthy, otherwise there is only the bottom in store...

  • sweetums googoo Oct 5, 4:03 p.m.

    @ Nancy
    "You DO know who put that in place don't you?"

    Uh... loaning money has been around a while...

  • sweetums googoo Oct 5, 4:01 p.m.

    @ nancy
    "and then the last 2 years have gotten worse."
    Really...?
    27 straight months of positive job growth is nothing to discount...

    Personally, the last two years have been great! I was promoted at my job and we have hired 9 people in the last 3 quarters. I am not sure a determination of "worse" is really warranted here, maybe "not as good as we wanted" is more appropriate.

  • bichonman Oct 5, 3:44 p.m.

    Put a fork in Obama's turkey, hopefully he's done.

  • storchheim Oct 5, 3:28 p.m.

    Spike that ball 0bama!

    The ball that the SEALS caught.

    And I have to say it with all respect for, and apologies to, our servicepeople: the ball that put no one back to work, that gave no one even one day's wages worth of breathing room, that improved no one's life, gave no one a reason to get up that day or the next or the one after that.

  • Nancy Oct 5, 3:26 p.m.

    "Banks were loaning to people that they KNEW couldn't afford to make loans..because they loaned on soft assets."

    You DO know who put that in place don't you?

  • Nancy Oct 5, 3:25 p.m.

    "It might take more than 3.7 years to do a complete turn around with his "partner's" in congress publicly announced platform of not helping in any way and their only goal was to keep Obama from being re-elected, not helping any American in a time of inherited crisis. "

    Ok, so what did he do when he had complete support in congress the first two years, what got accomplished? What did he do to turn the ship around?

    And then the last 2 years have gotten worse. Not better. He owns that too, just like Bush owned 9/11 a mere few months after he took office.

    Obama never worked with the republicans at all, he publicly showed disdain and blamed them for every failure he had - including his budget not passing - never mind his own party didn't support his budget proposal at all either.

    He, Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi created a firestorm of 'us vs them' at every turn. Obama didn't adopt Simpson Bowles either, why not?

    He even rejected the agreement he made on reducing the debt.

  • workinghuman33 Oct 5, 3:25 p.m.

    It is only thanks to Obama with his incredible patience and thanks to Boehner and his risk taking willingness to compromise that we did not default on our debt. eddybal--Excellent point.

    Nancy, the Republicans have done their level best to not cooperate with Obama in the hopes that he wouldn't be re-elected. If Obama is re-elected everything will turn around because then Republicans will do THEIR job and get things done due to the knowledge that that's it for Obama (last term). I don't trust a man that doesn't see our country as a whole and has skirted tax law (loopholes) to keep his money and not put it back into our country. He made the money here. The rest of us pay taxes, back into our OWN system(not hide it). Some may think "oh, anybody would do that to save their money". I disagree. Someone with integrity, that thought of ALL Americans as equals, would be willing and happy to put their hard earned dollars back into our system for the good of all his fellow Americans.

  • sweetums googoo Oct 5, 3:20 p.m.

    @Nancy "Obama didn't have a job that had employees dependent upon his leadership, ever."

    Being successful in business is not a credential to indicate that anyone is qualified to be the president of the United States, to think so is a fundamental misunderstanding of the purpose of government.

  • sweetums googoo Oct 5, 3:10 p.m.

    @ nancy

    "Does he own nothing in this mess we're in?"
    Yea, he owns the fact that the socio-economic system that we all enjoy today is still intact... This was exceptionally close to going away as we know it... Do not forget how bad things really were... It might take more than 3.7 years to do a complete turn around with his "partner's" in congress publicly announced platform of not helping in any way and their only goal was to keep Obama from being re-elected, not helping any American in a time of inherited crisis.

    "How many years would a president have to be in office to quit blaming the prior administration and congress?"

    Well it took Truman more than 4 and that turned out to be OK...

  • eddybal Oct 5, 3:01 p.m.

    Nancy, Obama bent of backwards to work with Republicans up to a degree that his own people couldn't stand it anymore. The party of No (GOP) stuck their heads in the hands for 4 years. It is only thanks to Obama with his incredible patience and thanks to Boehner and his risk taking willingness to compromise that we did not default on our debt. Are you too young to remember?

  • Nancy Oct 5, 2:48 p.m.

    "Leadership?..Mitt? He knows how to dictate & he feels entitled to be elected President."

    Well, he does have a good track record as Gov when he worked with a heavy majority of Democrats in his state legislature. That is quite different than the approach we have seen from Obama who basically told the republicans just prior to the mid term elections "We don't mind the Republicans joining us. They can come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back."

  • Nancy Oct 5, 2:45 p.m.

    "Considering we were facing the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression in September of 2008 prior to Obama being elected I feel he's done a pretty good job. "

    How many years would a president have to be in office to quit blaming the prior administration and congress?

    I ask because at some point, all the "work" done by Obama has to be taken into account and from where I stand, he's done a lot of damage on top of inheriting a bad economic situation.

    Does he own nothing in this mess we're in?

  • workinghuman33 Oct 5, 2:31 p.m.

    Obama didn't have a job that had employees dependent upon his leadership, ever. Until now and he's failed us miserably.-Nancy

    Considering we were facing the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression in September of 2008 prior to Obama being elected I feel he's done a pretty good job. How'd we get in that mess?...the 8 years prior to Obama being elected. Banks were loaning to people that they KNEW couldn't afford to make loans..because they loaned on soft assets. Besides, I believe we actually have some major crisis' going on in the Middle East with non-military that possibly were filling his mind more than how do a keep a cheesy, super-glued, fake smile on his face while repeating what he was told to and practiced 50 times. Mitt is a pretty good actor. Obama didn't do a good job with the debate, no he didn't but generally he can speak and think without practice, and on his own. Leadership?..Mitt? He knows how to dictate & he feels entitled to be elected President.

  • Nancy Oct 5, 2:21 p.m.

    prodigalrn, you are repeating Obama's talking points from the debate. Have you researched them or just take them as gospel truth?

  • torchhappysean Oct 5, 2:18 p.m.

    Neither of these individuals aree fit to be president. They BOTH are nothing more than puppets to their respective parties and "special" intrest groups... We need to get someone into office that will put the average citizens welfare first and not worry whether it hurts the "big" money's feelings or not!!

  • prodigalrn Oct 5, 2:17 p.m.

    And as for Romney, it's easy to do well in a debate if you've been practicing for the past 6 years. But remember when he went to London for the Olympics and promply stuck his foot in his mouth not once, but several times. I have to have some reservations about his ability to think on his feet. It's easy for all of us here to comment on someone's ahhhs and umms but when it comes down to saying things while thinking on your feet, even you Romneyites have to admit he doesn't exactly have the best track record around. What was it the English papers had on their headlines? Oh yeah, I remember.....Mitt the Twitt.

  • Nancy Oct 5, 2:14 p.m.

    "Hard to study for a test if you're working a full-time job. Besides, I know your mind was made up even before the debate, so why even have this conversation?"

    All the more reason he should know how to answer questions directly related to his job as president, don't you think? He shouldn't have to 'study' the economy, taxes etc. He's been IN that job.

    And as to why have the discussion when you've already made up your mind, are you not also referring to your own position?

  • prodigalrn Oct 5, 2:13 p.m.

    So all those on here that are romancing the idea of a Romney presidency.... are you against abortion even in the case of rape or incest? Ryan is. Are you for spending $2 billion at the pentagon that they haven't even asked for? Romney is. Are you for insurance companies being able to exclude coverage for pre-existing conditions? Romney is. The federal gov't spends 20% on defense. 2% on education. Romney wants to cut Pell Grants that allow many students to attend college. You for that? The deduction for mortgage interest may well go away under Romney. Most middle-class people rely on that deduciton to make home-ownership a reality. Otherwise the tax burden goes way up for us, the middle class. You guys for that? Again, I'm no Mitt-hater, I'm just not sure of his policies, and where this might lead. Not trying to insult anyone here, not calling names like so many here do, just stating my opinion as respectfully as I can.

  • Nancy Oct 5, 2:12 p.m.

    " In the case that Romney were to be elected President I shudder to think how he will do without preparation, and having to think & speak on his own without practicing 50 times...."

    And touche, what about Obama, 4 years on the job and yet he doesn't have a plan and can't even address basic economic "math" as he calls it. Romney has been in business for a long time, understands what it takes, Obama didn't have a job that had employees dependent upon his leadership, ever. Until now and he's failed us miserably.

  • workinghuman33 Oct 5, 2:11 p.m.

    That is not the type of man that I want running this country.
    Damien Thorne

    I don't want the type of man that was taught in his youth that black people are marked by God to run our country. 155 years of that teaching, which was taught until 1978. I don't want the type of man that thinks 47% of American citizens are lazy, entitled and doesn't care about them running our country. I don't want the type of man that believes women are less than and can't decide whether or not we can make our own medical care decisions about our womb running our country. I don't want THAT type of man running our country.

  • prodigalrn Oct 5, 2:07 p.m.

    If Obama had been "running" this country he would have been prepared. Fact is he still has no idea what he is doing, just like he said before he ran.
    Damien Thorne
    October 5, 2012 1:54 p.m;

    Hard to study for a test if you're working a full-time job. Besides, I know your mind was made up even before the debate, so why even have this conversation? Fox News and the right-wingers always dispute any information that challenges their reality. So if we only allow figures that support your position, why even bother? When the unemployment numbers go up, it's Obama's fault. When they come down, someone has to be messing with the numbers. You see my point? Why even bother? If someone's mind is made up, why try to have a conversation about it? You'll vote for Romney, and I just pray if he wins that he'll not give the bulk of any tax breaks to the people that don't need it in the first place. And don't say the 'job creators' need it. It didn't work when Dubya gave them the breaks.

  • wral mods blow close my account Oct 5, 2:03 p.m.

    "Studying and preparing shows maturity and Romney wants the job. -nowon_yuno"

    Romney is a child because he won't put his Etch-A-Sketch down.

  • Damien Thorne Oct 5, 2:03 p.m.

    Look, something people seem to be missing here is a small thing but important. Ask yourself a simple question.

    Have you ever worked at a job for almost 4 years?

    After most of 4 years have gone buy did you know how to do your job?

    I guarantee most people would say they did and be able to answer intelligently any questions about it.

    Why then could Obama not make any sense after almost 4 years on the job? President is 24/7 job, right? The most basic questions had him stuttering.

    That is not the type of man that I want running this country. He had his chance, and he could not do the job.

  • workinghuman33 Oct 5, 2:02 p.m.

    I guess you did not hear that Romney is not the president, yet.
    Damien Thorne"

    Don't be foolish, of course he's not. In the case that Romney were to be elected President I shudder to think how he will do without preparation, and having to think & speak on his own without practicing 50 times....he won't always be able to have practice. Sometimes people & the press are going to ask questions that he's not prepared for and then what.....crickets.

  • Damien Thorne Oct 5, 1:57 p.m.

    "Studying and preparing shows maturity and Romney wants the job. -nowon_yuno"

    Yes, and we see how well he's done in the past without preparation and his hoof and mouth disease. We also saw how well he did with foreign dignitaries whilst traveling abroad to the Olympics. He cannot speak nor think on his feet without being spoon fed and prepared by others on what to say...or think however."----workinghuman33

    I guess you did not hear that Romney is not the president, yet.

  • Damien Thorne Oct 5, 1:54 p.m.

    "Or maybe Obama had a job to do, say, like, oh, running the country? I'm no Mitt-hater, but let's be honest here, he had multiple debates against his GOP rivals, and he's been, in essence, running for president for the last 6 years. I expected him to do well, and he did. But to suggest that he wanted the job more because he prepped for it is ludicrous. By appealing to voter's emotions, instead of their intellect, Romney may well win this election. He's making the best of the hand he's been dealt, and I'm not going to bet against him. I think he did much better in the debate than Obama, who failed to even mention the '47%' situation, nor did he bring up the war against women's health coverage. Not to mention Ryan's opposition to abortion even in the case of rape or incest. Obama got smoked, in my opinion."----prodigalrn

    If Obama had been "running" this country he would have been prepared. Fact is he still has no idea what he is doing, just like he said before he ran.

  • eddybal Oct 5, 1:53 p.m.

    nowon_yuno, good spin. Every candidate gets prepped, which is not so much studying and learning. We saw a different face of Romney, again. That begs the question: Who is he really?

  • Tax Man Oct 5, 1:52 p.m.

    Yep, Mitt is the man. I just went down to GOP headquarters and left them a check and picked up some Romney/Ryan stickers/signs. We are going to win this one!

  • workinghuman33 Oct 5, 1:52 p.m.

    Studying and preparing shows maturity and Romney wants the job. -nowon_yuno"

    Yes, and we see how well he's done in the past without preparation and his hoof and mouth disease. We also saw how well he did with foreign dignitaries whilst traveling abroad to the Olympics. He cannot speak nor think on his feet without being spoon fed and prepared by others on what to say...or think however.

  • Damien Thorne Oct 5, 1:49 p.m.

    "I think Obama lost that debate the other night because of the altitude difference in Denver. If he was closer to sea level things would have been different.

    AL GORE 2016!"----wmoss2

    Didn't Al Gore say that the mean sea level would be in Denver by now?

  • prodigalrn Oct 5, 1:48 p.m.

    Studying and preparing shows maturity and Romney wants the job. Obama just wants to have his behind kissed for being himself.
    nowon_yuno
    October 5, 2012 1:23 p.m.

    Or maybe Obama had a job to do, say, like, oh, running the country? I'm no Mitt-hater, but let's be honest here, he had multiple debates against his GOP rivals, and he's been, in essence, running for president for the last 6 years. I expected him to do well, and he did. But to suggest that he wanted the job more because he prepped for it is ludicrous. By appealing to voter's emotions, instead of their intellect, Romney may well win this election. He's making the best of the hand he's been dealt, and I'm not going to bet against him. I think he did much better in the debate than Obama, who failed to even mention the '47%' situation, nor did he bring up the war against women's health coverage. Not to mention Ryan's opposition to abortion even in the case of rape or incest. Obama got smoked, in my opinion.

  • prodigalrn Oct 5, 1:42 p.m.

    We now interrupt your talking-points exhibition with some oft-ignored facts. Not biased stuff, but numbers released from agencies in the government that have to report to congress the shape of things.

    $787 Billion in federal monies spent on the stimulus.
    $4 trillion on wars in the middle east (assuming we withdraw on schedule)
    When G.W. Bush took office, the budget was running at a $86 billion surplus. When he left office, there was a $642 deficit.
    U.S. Defense spending is 20% of federal expenditures and 41% of the world's defense spending. Health insurance, including Medicare and Medicaid, constitues 21% of federal expenditures, while education is 2%. Romney has said he will not cut defense spending, including $2 billion in defense expenditures that the pentagon hasn't asked for. If we're spending more on defense than any other country in the world, why do we need to spend even more? Pretty sad when our defense spending is 41% of the world's total spent on defense.

  • Hapicampr Oct 5, 1:40 p.m.

    One of the topics I am looking forward to hear more about in the next debate is the closing of loopholes in the tax system to pay for the reduced tax rates. One of the most significant loopholes is the mortgage interest deduction from federal income tax. The middle class is benefiting most of that loophole. Closing it means the middle class tax rates need to drop significantly to compensate for that. Otherwise, they are the losers. It concerns me that Romney's focus is on cutting the top tax rates most, which would ultimately shift tax burden from the high income earners to the middle income earners. I doubt he will become more specific before the election and stop pull=ling the "trust me" card. eddybal October 5, 2012 11:05 a.m.

    I also am concerned about closing loopholes like the mortgage interest deduction going away. That is essentially "raising" taxes on me and I am middle class. I don't like either of our presidential choices. For the first time in my adult life, I don't want

  • Nancy Oct 5, 1:31 p.m.

    "Chris Matthews is about the worst I have ever seen"

    Instead of the tingle running up his leg, I'll bet he had a different sensation after that first debate.

  • nowon_yuno Oct 5, 1:25 p.m.

    This Obama clown is just like GWB, only taller and can speak in complete sentences.
    willemakeit

    He did ummm and ahh a lot, any he also left all of Bush policies in place too, no wonder things arent better. But libs don't want to talk about that. I guess by doing that he can always blame Bush

  • nowon_yuno Oct 5, 1:23 p.m.

    baldchip, what makes you think the Romney of the debate is the Romney you will be getting? He had been prepped for weeks for that appearance.

    So now its a bad thing to study and prepare? the excuses just keep coming. Maybe Obama should have been doing that instead of hanging with Ray Z and Beyowulf. Studying and preparing shows maturity and Romney wants the job. Obama just wants to have his behind kissed for being himself.

  • pappybigtuna1 Oct 5, 1:15 p.m.

    obama can you say and spell -"corruption"

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