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kimandwill89 Sep 28, 6:19 p.m.
Chaos and failure. Nothing will change with this board. Vote "NO" to any request for additional money. I wouldn't trust these people with a single dollar.
jnc67 Sep 28, 6:18 p.m.
"Wake County Public Schools are a joke."
Let's be careful here. While the Wake County Public School BOARD may be a joke, the schools themselves are no such thing. Administrators, teachers, parents, and students work very hard to bring pride to their campuses. Please don't allow the yahoos on the school board to ruin the reputation of the schools themselves.
charliespindle Sep 28, 5:11 p.m.
Moving forward is the only way....this board has gone so far backwards. These jokers need to go. I can't wait to hear what Advanced Ed is going to say about this fiasco. And, WHO in their right mind would agree to a bond for new schools? This organization is so irresponsible...why on earth would anyone trust them with more responsibilities, such as building schools, etc. Teachers need to voice their disgust about this...they have every right. Horrible pay, poor working conditions, ignorant parents who think it's the schools' responsibility to raise their children, and a school board who is extremely incompetent, and a governor who claims "it's all about the children" is, as usual, keeping silent!! Maybe....because she knows this was a political move.
free2bme Sep 28, 4:25 p.m.
I like him already. He has years of experience with the school system so I am sure he has seen many changes over the years. WCPSS has not always been so controversial. In years past as Mr. Gainey knows, WCPSS was less chaotic. Mr. Gainey has been in the schools dealing with the day to day task of educating students and that speaks volumes to me as a former teacher. The negativity needs to cease and as Mr. Gainey stated it is time get the focus back on the students.
Relic Sep 28, 3:01 p.m.
"Moving forward..." Translation: You poor folks in Wake County are either getting another tax hike or the teachers will be out in the roadway with firemen holding a boot drive to pay the $250,000 your board just threw away. I used to envy that I couldn't send my kids to a system like Wake County's....not anymore.
drummerboy Sep 28, 1:12 p.m.
neverindoubt, you are correct. The leader at the top of a school system should set the tone. But the policy is set by the legislature and the school boards. So, am I serious? Yes. I was in the trenches for the past thirty years. Tata was doing a good job, but was not in place long enough to set the tone that resulted in huge successes. That was my point, and that the kudos should go to the groups I mentioned. Wouldn't that be considered team work? The staff, parents, and students? And then hopefully some parental support. The next leader should be well-versed in the dictated curriculum and knowledgeable of the NC school laws, and also should have the ability to actually make people want to do their jobs. That's leadership.
mtnmama Sep 28, 1:10 p.m.
This is laughable. Many (most) of you are doing the same thing you're upset about the board doing. Political bashing...my party is better than your party.....GROW UP! No wonder it never changes year after year. At some point politics has to be set aside, people need to respect their differences & find a way to work together. It would be nice if our US Congress set the pace, but I'm not holding my breath. Just like I'm not holding my breath that some if you won't recognize how hypocritical it looks to come here & make politically charged comments about how political the board has acted. I'm probably guilty, too, but it needs to stop if we want to move past this. People on both sides need to compromise & meet in the middle for the greater good...of schools and life in general.
more cowbell Sep 28, 1:02 p.m.
Gainey's focus: Keep Wake schools moving forward.
Uh, You can start any time. Looks to me like the board's latest "move" forward was actually a GIANT step BACKWARD.
wildpig777 Sep 28, 12:50 p.m.
dont make me call in bev perdue to solve the problem. no wait -she is the proble. ths is the gov nor who wouldnt accept the people electin june ackinson so she cretated a position to over ride the will of the people. but her ew slogan is -- im in it for the children-- AND YALL WONDER ABOUT THE SAD STATE OF PUBLIC EDUCATION IN NOTH CAROLINA AND IN WAKE COUNTY.
Whosays Sep 28, 12:26 p.m.
Wake County Public Schools are a joke.
Paladin2 Sep 28, 12:22 p.m.
The liberal democrats are trying to run the Wake County School System in the ground like they have done with the US Economy and Jobs. When will voters tire of the liberal ideology?
neverindoubt Sep 28, 11:06 a.m.
Seriously, drummerboy? Obviously you are not in the trenches like I am. "NC Ed policy is dictated mostly by the legislature?" WHAT? The leader at the top of our school system sets the tone and the expectations for principals who pass that along to the teachers and from there it trickles down to the students. What's happening in Raleigh may impact funding but not the day to day running of local school systems. Of course the recent gains are because of the kids' hard work. But a competent leader at the top paves the way for that by finding good school based leadership and empowering them. When you have strong principals, they are able to remove obstacles and tackle problems that are standing in the way of student achievement. It is not one group, working alone, that leads to higher student achievement, it is truly a team effort. Mr Tata's competent leadership will be sorely missed.
drummerboy Sep 28, 10:41 a.m.
I am always amazed about some of the commentary concerning the schools. Tata may have done an okay job, but the gains the school system has made were the result of hard working school level staff, parental support (however, waning), and hard work on part of some of the students. Also, the notion that outsiders are going to come in and fix things with their new ideas is ludicrous. North Carolina education policy is dictated mostly by the legislature, like it or not. And much of student success is determined by how well prepared they are when they first enter school...their first teachers are their parents. Many kids who fail in school are, unfortunately, doomed before they get there. Gainey will do a good job until a replacement is named. Otherwise, I can't think of anyone who would want it! Please, let's not have an outsider who has no real knowledge of education or who does not know how to work with people.
ICTrue Sep 28, 10:38 a.m.
"Quit running the schools like a business and run the like schools and it may work. The Board should be run by selected teachers and principals, not business people."
The problem with that is that the WCPSS is way too big. The annual budget is around $1Billion. Most teachers and principals haven't the slightest clue how to deal with an operation that size.
ICTrue Sep 28, 10:33 a.m.
"Gainey's focus: Keep Wake schools moving forward..."
...toward the cliff that the liberals are about to push it over.
westernwake1 Sep 28, 10:19 a.m.
"the BOE used to be a non-partisan"
'Laugher there, these boards have never been non-partisan, they lied to you then like they're lying to you now.' - lec02572
The Democratic boards for the last 40 years were not only partisan but some of the worse examples of partisan behavior in North Carolina history. They appointed top school administrators who would only hire Democrats for administrative positions, only purchased school supplies from Democratic donors, and retaliated against families who questioned their policies. All the while, the Democratic boards did not focus on educating each child but creating a racial diversity social experiment.
macy Sep 28, 10:19 a.m.
Quit running the schools like a business and run the like schools and it may work. The Board should be run by selected teachers and principals, not business people. The teachers and principals would have to earn the right to be on the board, not be elected - obviously the voters didnt realize what they were really getting when they placed their votes - a bunch of people that dont care about the most important thing - the children. If you dont have a child in the Wake County School System - you cant be on the board.
neverindoubt Sep 28, 9:58 a.m.
Fundamentally, our Board is distracted by a bunch of details that allow them to not focus on their core mission. STUDENT ACHIEVEMENT. That should be their one and only goal. Unfortunately for us, they just fired a leader who had growth for all students as his core mission and was getting solid, measurable results. When our Board allows itself to be distracted by social engineering experiments (which is what busing and 'diversity' really are, if we're honest), petty partisan politics or defending longtime but incompetent employees, they have no time left to carry out their core mission. And ALL the children (and property owners) of Wake County are the losers. We get one shot at it with these kids. While the adults are bickering, days and days of educational opportunity are being wasted. Sad, sad state of affairs.
btneast Sep 28, 9:37 a.m.
You will never fix the school system with insiders that have participated in the ongoing decline of the system. You do not get NEW ideas as you got with Tata you simply get rehashed failed ideas
...Exactly. The education system is broken , as evidenced by our standing worldwide. The US is one of the highest spending per student systems in the world, but ranks way down the list compared to other nations that spend far less per student. That tells me that continuing to throw money at it is not the answer. Those trained within the current system unfortunately still think more money and more committees to study "issues" will fix things. Nature shows that inbreeding is not a good thing, and we now need new ideas and leadership style.
Screw WrAl Sep 28, 9:31 a.m.
"the BOE used to be a non-partisan"
Laugher there, these boards have never been non-partisan, they lied to you then like they're lying to you now.
lec02572 Sep 28, 9:11 a.m.
Looks like the majority of the board took education backwards. Time to go ahead and start finding the right people to feel their positions.
heisenberg Sep 28, 9:08 a.m.
Impeach Kevin Hill
Da Toy Maker Sep 28, 8:56 a.m.
"...excellent in state colleges, that are very affordable. They will both graduate without a huge debtload for them, or us.
Amen! UNC, NCSU. Same here. My kid is a 2nd year engineering student at NCSU. Go Packs!
Groogrux Sep 28, 8:50 a.m.
etcrudy, I beg to differ. NC has its share of problems. But its a great place to live, work and play. Been here over 12 years and I plan to stay. We have had good employment opportunities and our kids both go to excellent in state colleges, that are very affordable. They will both graduate without a huge debtload for them, or us.
neverindoubt Sep 28, 8:45 a.m.
discowhale...voters can only choose between the candidates who run for office. If we've got the choice between two wackos, where does that get us? Too afraid I'd commit some sort of offense against my fellow Board members or I'd run myself. Besides that, they lie to get elected and then totally change their tunes once we can't touch them for four years. Kevin Hill, while trying to get elected: I'd give Tata an A-, said this summer that he was 'the man for the job', but now claims 'months of growing tensions'. Doesn't make any sense. Couldn't even provide an answer as to why they'd fired him until he'd had a chance to go home and think about it. seriously? The quality of our choices is pretty poor.
btneast Sep 28, 8:36 a.m.
The other way to look at it is that the BOE used to be a non-partisan entity until Tedesco & Margiotta constantly brought politics into it when they got control
Nah, that's not true. It has been political for a long, long time. Any elected office is political, always has been, always will be.
btneast Sep 28, 8:26 a.m.
So has this guy been here the entire time in the background even before Tony got hired? Such a waste of time if we passed him up to begin with.
This guy is INTERIM......doubtful he will be the permananet Superintendent.
Da Toy Maker Sep 28, 8:04 a.m.
"US News Top Ranked North Carolina Public High Schools:
Consider what DC's Per student expense vs NC. Sometimes money does make a difference, don't you think? BTW, one of the reason why we moved down here from NY is lower Tax and house price.
kddk Sep 27, 7:58 p.m.
US News Top Ranked North Carolina Public High Schools:
#1 - Hopewell High - HUNTERSVILLE – US News National Ranking #663
#2 - Manteo High - MANTEO – US News National Ranking #863
#3 - Needham Broughton High - RALEIGH – US News National Ranking #966
#4 - Jordan Matthews High - SILER CITY – US News National Ranking #1158
#5 - A C Reynolds High - ASHEVILLE - US News National Ranking #1246
US News Top Ranked Virginia Public High Schools:
#1 - Thomas Jefferson High - ALEXANDRIA - US News National Ranking - #2
#2 - George Mason High - FALLS CHURCH - US News National Ranking #19
#3 - George C. Marshall High - FALLS CHURCH - US News National Ranking #55 #4 - Mclean High - MCLEAN - US News National Ranking #85 #5 - James W. Robinson Jr. Secondary School - FAIRFAX - US News National Ranking #88
Smiley30 Sep 27, 7:55 p.m.
The other way to look at it is that the BOE used to be a non-partisan entity until Tedesco & Margiotta constantly brought politics into it when they got control. They used to do this same kind of stuff when they were in charge. This looked like political payback for when Burns was let go before Tata was even hired. The fact is that all of the partisan politics has no place on a school board. I would like to start over with 9 new board members.
Screw WrAl Sep 27, 7:41 p.m.
discowhale for PRESIDENT of the BOE!!!!! Man, so refreshing to hear someone who gets it. God bless ya' dude.
computer trainer Sep 27, 7:26 p.m.
Here's hoping Dr Gainey can survive the BOE?
discowhale Sep 27, 7:14 p.m.
You folks can finger point all day long about who IS and who IS NOT to blame for the WCPSS maladies. But in the end it's the VOTERS.
In particular you can the people who voted FOR the new school board two or three years ago when Tedesco and several others were voted in mainly on a promise to stop busing based on diversity instead of proximity, but failed to support them after that.
Wake county is experiencing the same thing CA, NY, etc are. The voters keep stacking in spendthrift (D)'s them complain about taxes and services. THEN when it's time to vote again, somebody says rich, evil Republicans, and viola they vote for the SAME type folks who caused the problems!
If you find that hitting yourself in the knee repeatedly with a hammer makes your knee hurt, hitting it with bigger hammer or harder, won't solve the pain.
And NOW, my favorite part of these articles, I'm SO glad I moved out of Whacky County! BWAHAhahahahaaaaaaa!!!
hapd Sep 27, 7:14 p.m.
It is unbelievable to me that Mr. Tata was fired for political reasons. The county is short of money so the school is short of money and the elected school board fires Mr. Tata without cause. It was within their right but they are trying to reinvent the wheel. Why not just copy the school plan from another school board that works and implement it here in Wake County? This is not a buying or selling positive for home buying here in Wake County.
Navigate life Sep 27, 7:01 p.m.
The point is Mr. Gainey is taking control of the situation and not sitting back letting things unfold as they will. It would be fair to say had we started with someone from within in the first place this would not have happened. But that's beside the point, it did happen and now we have to focus on getting some normalcy back into the wake co. public school system. Try not to be so pessimistic about it. Our children will learn with or without the school board.
etcrudy Sep 27, 7:00 p.m.
so glad to be moving out of this state :)
justabumer Sep 27, 6:59 p.m.
It's a bad thing when people who know little or nothing about the operation of schools are in positions to make major decisions concerning the operation of the schools. Perhaps elected school boards are not a good thing.
justabumer Sep 27, 6:57 p.m.
He wants to, "Keep Wake schools moving forward". In other words, he wants to keep doing what Tata was doing.
methinks Sep 27, 6:56 p.m.
it doesn't matter who is appointed, hired, or whatever until the board gets straight. This guy's hands are going to be tied as well. As for the board, any appearance of impropriety should be avoided at all cost. These members need to STEP AWAY from any and all political groups when they hold public office. Tata pointed out what these members were doing and was fired for it.
westernwake1 Sep 27, 6:54 p.m.
Good luck to Stephen Gainey in his acting superintendent role. I would urge parents in the system to stand behind and support him during the upcoming couple months, and ignore the politics that brought him to this temporary position. Mr. Gainey did have a good reputation when he served as a principal, and I wish him the best in helping the Wake County School System move forward.
rachel Sep 27, 6:52 p.m.
they must be pretty hardy schools and they will move forward...heaven knows they get no help from the school board
Tortue Sep 27, 6:50 p.m.
"leadership style"...where have we heard that before? Anne Maynard Gray would be proud. Very original excuse.
viking416 Sep 27, 6:38 p.m.
"He's up for the challenge and seems to be moving in the right direction by focusing on the current issues with bus routes and calming nerves."
He will be back in the shadows within the year....the board will drop another 100-200K to find another guy. Repubs get back the majority and the cycle continues.
viking416 Sep 27, 6:35 p.m.
Promoting a temporary caretaker from within does nothing to solve the glaring problem of the board itself. These people are throwing the scarce education dollars around like drunken sailors. Enough is enough!
CrewMax Sep 27, 6:35 p.m.
Amazing, some of the comments here. The guy is a blank page when it comes to leadership.
Navigate life Sep 27, 6:32 p.m.
These are reasons why he should not be in the position he now holds. You will never fix the school system with insiders that have participated in the ongoing decline of the system.
Still bitter I see. Let it go and give the guy a chance to do his thing. I would say his experience alone in education is far superior than Tony's was and I'm not knocking Tony at all, just making a logical observation.
Navigate life Sep 27, 6:28 p.m.
He's up for the challenge and seems to be moving in the right direction by focusing on the current issues with bus routes and calming nerves.
harmstrong4 Sep 27, 6:27 p.m.
so why wasnt he appointed before Tata? hummmm
Navigate life Sep 27, 6:25 p.m.
So has this guy been here the entire time in the background even before Tony got hired? Such a waste of time if we passed him up to begin with.
whatelseisnew Sep 27, 6:22 p.m.
"Gainey has spent 17 years of his 20-year career in education in the Wake County school system.
He started as a math teacher at Apex High School before becoming assistant principal. He moved on to be principal at Leesville Road High School in Raleigh."
These are reasons why he should not be in the position he now holds. You will never fix the school system with insiders that have participated in the ongoing decline of the system. You do not get NEW ideas as you got with Tata you simply get rehashed failed ideas as is now being pushed by the unfortunately again Democrat controlled school board.
So now in addition to the 250+ K that was just wasted we get to pay this guy. The shcool board members that ousted tata ought to have to pay the buyout for tata out of their own pockets.
Published: 2008-01-11 14:37:00
Updated: 2010-06-21 13:53:03