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ConservativeVoter Sep 28, 11:53 a.m.
"How funny it is that when the school board was controlled by the last group and the gentleman prior to Mr. Tata was let go under similar circumstances (not agreeing with the majority on the board), no one seemed to mind. Now since, as you clearly super intelligent individuals put it, the board is controlled by the "liberals" and they do something that was done in exactly the same way as the "non-liberals", it suddenly becomes a travesty. Very curious..
Burns was not let go.
He resigned because his liberal and socialist agenda and ideology wouldn't allow him to work with the new school board and tear down his diversity dream.
Also, Burns was caught hiding from the school board a report done by SAS that showed that socio-economic diversity (race) based busing actually hurt the academic achievement of minority students instead of helping them.
ncmatts Sep 28, 11:24 a.m.
How funny it is that when the school board was controlled by the last group and the gentleman prior to Mr. Tata was let go under similar circumstances (not agreeing with the majority on the board), no one seemed to mind. Now since, as you clearly super intelligent individuals put it, the board is controlled by the "liberals" and they do something that was done in exactly the same way as the "non-liberals", it suddenly becomes a travesty. Very curious..
injameswetrust2003 Sep 27, 5:56 p.m.
I thought this liberal organization would be giving the Fab Five a pat on the back for a job well done.
rachel Sep 27, 5:13 p.m.
I sure would approve and loan a great deal of money to such a solid and sure performing school district....not
aspenstreet1717 Sep 27, 4:57 p.m.
snuffy Sep 27, 4:40 p.m.
School system is too big. Let's break it up into four manageable systems.
driverkid3 Sep 27, 3:52 p.m.
westernwake1::::WRAL should spend some time investigating all the retaliation against families in the Wake school system.
WRAL will NEVER investigate the liberal side of anything. If it's going to hurt the libs, you won't hear a peep out of them. The really pathetic thing about it is WRAL is evidently proud of themselves for that.
I thank GOD I got out of that cesspool known as the ddemocrat party!
Screw WrAl Sep 27, 3:40 p.m.
Very well put,
" Therefore, as I see it, the only vote I have is "no" on a bond issue, which will be a 1st for me, but the system leaves me no other choice. "
Nancy Sep 27, 2:31 p.m.
Nuff - the poll allowed users to vote multiple times - so it's dramatic swing overnight to saying Tata should have been fired was pretty obvious (84% no last night to 90% yes this morning) It was not a good measure of reality.
The Blades Sep 27, 2:28 p.m.
Here is the link. They took the poll itself down. During the 10:00 news last night, when I went to the poll it was 85% for Tata.
Now it is 64% against Tata according to WRAL. But if you read the footnote...Interactive polls on WRAL.com are for entertainment and are not conducted in a scientific fashion. We make no guarantees about the accuracy of the results other than that they reflect the choices of the users who participated.
On Sept. 26, a day after the Wake County Board of Education fired Superintendent Tony Tata, WRAL News asked web visitors if they agreed with the action.
Through 24 hours, more than 14,000 votes were cast. Of those, 64% were in agreement with the board; 35% opposed the action and 2% registered an unsure answer.
Rebelyell55 Sep 27, 2:27 p.m.
Sound like this board is made up to bribe and control the nation school systems and should be investigated. Why would what they say matter? Ain't the fed's doing the same thing?
btneast Sep 27, 2:24 p.m.
Apparently the Dept. of Public Instruction is not involved with individual school board policies, other than determining curriculum etc. I doubt she's being muzzled as you suggest.
Exactly, DPI is the biggest waste of tax money in this state.
btneast Sep 27, 2:19 p.m.
So are the Wake Commissioners! Politics and higher political ambtions are driving both
All elected offices are political, always have been, always will be. It's naive to think otherwise.
Screw WrAl Sep 27, 2:08 p.m.
Where is this mysterious poll? I've yet to locate it. I hear that somehow it went from 80%+ supporting Tata to more not supporting overnight.
Uhhh, maybe the reason we don't see it is because someone at wral wised up. I'd say besides being obviously tampered with, even though it's their own poll, there are legal issues they could get into.
mtnmama Sep 27, 2:07 p.m.
Had to go to nbc17 website to ascertain that NC has no provision for a recall vote in this situation. We are stuck with the reps until 2013 & the dems until 2015. Per their article, it would take time & cooperation from the NC General Assembly to change that. Therefore, as I see it, the only vote I have is "no" on a bond issue, which will be a 1st for me, but the system leaves me no other choice. I do realize it will hurt he schools & ultimately the students & that's a shame. I'm not gloating about this. I'm not happy about it. But clearly the majority of taxpayers can agree that we don't have a problem w/leadership style with this board...we simply have NO leadership at all beyond special interest groups who have infiltrated the board. Affiliates with special interest groups should not be allowed to run, much less be elected. If so, there should be a mechanism in place to rectify it. Until then, I won't vote for another bond, period.
davidgnews Sep 27, 1:51 p.m.
Online petitions typically do not work.
NiceNSmooth Sep 27, 1:45 p.m.
Chris Malone will most likely be gone soon, as he is running for NC House.
LOL... Well anyone in his district that votes for him after he admitted he did not do enough for the the schools in distric 1 is crazy
westernwake1 Sep 27, 1:14 p.m.
Honesty first Sep 27, 1:14 p.m.
Nancy..The choice plan was set up by the former board. It was originally a neighborhood plan but was modified by the Margiotta board. Just because you say it does not make it true.
davidgnews Sep 27, 1:07 p.m.
idea, if you dont have a child in Wake County PUBLIC schools you cannot be on the school board. Period. macy
And if you are on the board and have children in school, you should attend parent-teacher conferences. Someone please tell that to Chris Malone, who rarely did, if ever!
nynjnc Sep 27, 12:57 p.m.
Totally agree with mtnmama- they are trying to dillute the problem not fix it- moving the children into low performing schools is not fixing the issue- give those schools what is needed to make the kids there successful- extra tech/teachers/tutors etc and stop busing the kids!
macy Sep 27, 12:52 p.m.
It is time for the entire board to resign - idea, if you dont have a child in Wake County PUBLIC schools you cannot be on the school board. Period.
mtnmama Sep 27, 12:35 p.m.
Fix the root of the problem. I'm referring to the assignment plan AND the current board. Scrap & start over. Fix under performing schools. Busing kids all over just to even out scores does zero to help an under performing student. They just get left behind. I've never understood why that's so hard to see. Get a non partisan board in place & preferably folks with functioning gray matter.
The Yoda Sep 27, 12:28 p.m.
It's time for Hill to resign, NOW. Maybe then the rest of the left-wing whackos can hire the "Rev" Baber to run the school system. That is what they want anyways.
tarheelgrad1998 Sep 27, 12:23 p.m.
Good. Somebody needs to put a boot in their rear.
Nancy Sep 27, 12:01 p.m.
"Why does the Choice plan add so much more in busing costs and problems? i thought community schools and traditional calendar would save money or at least what Ron and John told folks....looks like they are spending more taxpayer money!!!"
You missed a critical point in your estimation. the 'choice' plan was THIS majority boards 'choice', not the prior board which had set up 'community' schools plan. Hence, it changed.
computer trainer Sep 27, 12:00 p.m.
Chris Malone will most likely be gone soon, as he is running for NC House. Debra Goldman and John T are also running for offices, and if they were to win, that would leave 3 seats open on the board. I would imagine that the Chairman of the Board, Hill (help me cut my grass) will be appointing the people who will replace them. That will leave the board completely DEM.
rand321 Sep 27, 11:52 a.m.
Why does the Choice plan add so much more in busing costs and problems? i thought community schools and traditional calendar would save money or at least what Ron and John told folks....looks like they are spending more taxpayer money!!!
Wake County schools and governance has become a JOKE and is going to cost the taxpayers more $$$
DurhamDevil Sep 27, 11:46 a.m.
This didn't start two years ago - this started over a decade ago when Wake County voters failed to pass a schools construction bond. The school system has never recovered and it will take many years of working together - EVERYONE working together - to fix it.
GK N.Ral Sep 27, 11:30 a.m.
Somebody needs to be concerned about two years ago.
superman Sep 27, 11:27 a.m.
Tata was less qualified for that position than the homeless man that does my yard work. My yard person has a Master's Degree in Education from UNC. The hiring was a mistake and was political from the beginning. They paid him $250 with absolutely no credentials. It was up to Mr. Tata to get along with the board. Tata never realized or accepted the fact that he was not in charge.
superman Sep 27, 11:20 a.m.
Tata was a serious blunder made by the previous board and now they blame their mess on the current board. A former general is not likely to do well in a situation when he cant just give orders and get them carried out. Tata was grossly unqualified for the position. That position should require a Phd along with a current NC Supt's certificate. Prior experience as a supt should also be required. It is clear to me that Tata did not recognize that the board controlled the schools. I am sure his relationship with the board was no different than his relationship with the prinipals and schools. If you cant get along with your boss it is highly unlikely that you going to do any differently with the staff under your control. He looked good, talked good and was a good PR person but as an administrator he failed. The previous board members should accept responsibility for making a very bad choice.
storchheim Sep 27, 11:18 a.m.
""Where is the voice of the elected official who is the STATE SUPERINTENDENT June Atkinson? She must have SOME concerns over this matter." rockman55
Apparently the Dept. of Public Instruction is not involved with individual school board policies, other than determining curriculum etc. I doubt she's being muzzled as you suggest."
Sounds to me like she's a big old waste of money then. $124,676 plus lifetime benefits, to be exact.
Native NC gal Sep 27, 11:17 a.m.
Yep - just like I predicted. This will come back to bite the school board in it's behind.
BigOski Sep 27, 11:16 a.m.
ChicoDusty - I didnt say that BUT if you looked at it last night around 5:00PM. There was an 84% against. Now it has flip-flopped. And thanks for leaving the other part out to try to rove your point....typical liberal taking statements out of context.
lec02572 Sep 27, 11:15 a.m.
They should be concerned about the 5 members of the board. Tata was doing his job just fine. When is the school board going to stop treating our children like numbers that they can move every year just to satisfy their agenda. Time to get the dead wood off the school board.
loveyhowell Sep 27, 11:15 a.m.
I would like to know why Yevonne Brannon, the mouthpiece of Greater Wake Schools is directing the five democrats on our school board. Has anyone read this latest email on the WakeEd blog. Incredible. Susan Evans and Christine Kusher and Mr. Martin are affiliated with this group.
mtnmama Sep 27, 11:07 a.m.
Look...this board has been screwed up for a long time. This majority is no better or worse than the last. They are DIVIDED & cant work together & have no leadership..
But we are just as bad. We get on here & vent & complain yet we do nothing to oust them all. I truly wish there was a way to correct this now & not have to wait for another election several years from now.
Paladin2 Sep 27, 10:56 a.m.
Just keep voting for liberal democratic left wing nuts locally and nationally and think that the damage they have wrought will miracously disappear at some point. Their elitist ideology doesn't agree with common sense approaches.
NiceNSmooth Sep 27, 10:39 a.m.
Be careful with that WRAL poll. It now heavily favors the boards decision. However I think Yevonne gave some marching orders to skew the poll.
so when the poll is in your favor its sound informaiton but once it shows the true majority the data is skewd?
labjordan Sep 27, 10:37 a.m.
Sign a petition to reinstate Tony Tata
driverkid3 Sep 27, 10:33 a.m.
jcd241959::::If you want a 3rd world country,vote democrat!
That's the bottom line right there. If golo had a way for us to vote on these posts, I would vote this up a thousand times! Thank you for summing up the situation so neatly.
Thought Criminal WS Sep 27, 10:33 a.m.
Barber threatened to work to have accreditation removed a few years back - seems like he is behind this for his RACIST policy of diversity.
Diversity = minorites favored, racial supremacy, and is ONE BIG LIE to discriminate against NON-minorities.
mtnmama Sep 27, 10:29 a.m.
I haven't run across a single person who agrees with the board's decision.
westernwake1 Sep 27, 10:25 a.m.
"Be careful with that WRAL poll. It now heavily favors the boards decision. However I think Yevonne gave some marching orders to skew the poll. I noticed one person can cast multiple votes. Barber probably had nothing better to do last night so he clicked approve 2,500 times" - BigOski
I will note that you can vote more than one time from the same PC. All 9000 votes supporting the removal of Tata came in under 1/2 hour - which means someone created an automated script to vote over-and-over again.
Similar to public elections, I guess the Democrats do not believe in one-vote one-person, or in verifying the identification of voters.
BigOski Sep 27, 10:19 a.m.
Be careful with that WRAL poll. It now heavily favors the boards decision. However I think Yevonne gave some marching orders to skew the poll. I noticed one person can cast multiple votes. Barber probably had nothing better to do last night so he clicked approve 2,500 times.
tarheelfan41 Sep 27, 10:19 a.m.
Where's all the uproar about accreditation now? Just short time ago the left screamed bloody murder because the right put accreditation injerpody. It was inexcusable for the right to do anything that could possibly cause problems with accreitation, seniors had to have it for colleges, how selfish an act it was, blah, blah blah. Well??? I'm just afraid when the left BOE's are up for reelection the power could swing again and we will right back to firing the incumbant super...
lisaclark2 Sep 27, 10:17 a.m.
This is what happens when parents run the school board and the school board is not allowed to do their jobs. 2nd this man should have never been fired because there are to many kids and anyone knows there are always bus issues for school start up. Hope all of the people who complained and created this issue got their moneys worth... Pay up and maybe the school system will learn to stop trying to make every parent happy.. We all know it will never happen.
NiceNSmooth Sep 27, 10:12 a.m.
"lol.. the ones I talked to say they knew it was only a matter of time... because he only gave money and attention to one area of the county and forgot about the rest."
The distribution of funds by the Wake County School System mapped by area do not support this assertion. Also Tata visited and worked with schools in every area of Wake County.
and that is why he and Malone admitted they were'nt doing enough for the schools in Knightdale?
Tax Man Sep 27, 10:06 a.m.
Where is the WRAL link to the poll??? I imagine if they kept it up it would now be over 90% in favor of keeping Tata. Time for a special election to remove ALL board members and appoint new ones. They should be voted on by the Wake County voters at large, not by any district and should each come up for reelection every year until this situation is fully resolved. Tata needs to remain until a replacement is found, trained and installed.
Published: 2007-10-05 09:38:00
Updated: 2013-09-05 17:25:12