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  • wakeresident10 Sep 26, 6:04 p.m.

    I don't agree with the decision to fire Tata after such a short period of time and are also sick and tired of the partisan politics. Isn't it about time that this failed experiment of diversity across an entire county be scrapped? It's proven not to work. I have no idea how busing a student an hour away so they can sit in a diverse class helps them learn the basics of reading, math, and science. If this system was such a success than why isn't it replicated anywhere else? I understand that Charlotte and Atlanta trashed this failed social experiment previously. Let's face it, the district is too big to manage by one board and one superintendent. It's time to break it up and put the power of decision making closer to the families impacted. It's time to localize each issue instead of trying to fit a "one size fits all" approach to our educational needs. Where are the leaders on this issue and when are the rallies scheduled? It's time we start showing our displeasure in numbers.

  • MatureOne Sep 26, 5:16 p.m.

    Unfortunately, they bused the kids in the surrounding neighborhoods all over Wake County to make space for the affluent white kids from the suburbs - ConservativeVoter

    Those schools are so highly focused on certain academic courses that they aren’t really suited to the average student regardless of race/economic standing. The problem was that that keeping up with housing growth outweighed the needs of current schools. That helped to create the current need for economic/educational diversity. Once they realized they were part of the problem they still separated those kids by sending one group to magnets and the others to take their spot in their schools. I still agree with busing to a certain degree but not on the extreme levels that they were on. Most new subdivisions aren’t that far away from lower income areas so they can keep some of it local and not way across the county. If they can upgrade more local schools then you eliminate a lot of the problems.

  • jsok123 Sep 26, 4:42 p.m.

    Stop the insanity....

  • driverkid3 Sep 26, 4:34 p.m.

    grandmanp::::why the state is paying Keith Sutton $ 62,000 a year when a large part of his time is spent on Wake County school business. WRAL should do a FOIA request for his time sheets to see if he is using vacation time or unpaid leave when doing school board business.

    Do you REALLY think WRAL is going to do anything that will hurt a democrat?

    grandmanp

  • WakeHammer Sep 26, 4:32 p.m.

    Let's be correct here. Burns didn't get fired, and he didn't "resign." He RETIRED. At the end of his employment, he began collecting a pension of over $150,000 a year. Most of us will never make that much as a regular salary. He's been double-dipping since then, earning nice money consulting for other school systems.

    General Tata was FIRED. He gets nothing from WCPSS beyond his one-year exit package.

  • kpquiller Sep 26, 4:14 p.m.

    Show your support to Tony Tata! There is a petition that is ready for signatures.
    https://www.change.org/petitions/wcpss-school-board-reinstate-superintendent-tony-tata

  • ConservativeVoter Sep 26, 4:08 p.m.

    Once again, Burns resigned. He wasn't fired.

    Burns resigned because he was caught hiding from the school board the SAS study which said socio-economic diversity (race) based busing actually hurt academic achievement of minority students.

    This went against Burns liberal and socialist agenda of diversity above all else including student academic achievement.

  • ConservativeVoter Sep 26, 4:03 p.m.

    The Democrats need to understand that it's the schools only job is to educate our students.

    It's not the schools job to right societies wrongs through social engineering including the failed socio-economic diversity (race) based busing program.

  • ConservativeVoter Sep 26, 4:02 p.m.

    The Democrats support Diversity above everything else including student achievement.

  • ConservativeVoter Sep 26, 4:02 p.m.

    ""Considering the fact that the Wake County board of education had managed to stay non-partisan until Margiota and Tedesco were elected in a fluke election it is funny to hear the Republicans now cry 'foul.' The previous school board did not even give Del Burns an opportunity to try to work with them; they fired him almost immediately. The current board tried to work with Tata but the partisanship that was so rampant under the previous board was still front and center. He was not qualified for the job; it is just unfortunate that he was not fired for cause, resulting in the county having to pay him a severance. You can thank the previous Republican majority for the now-partisan school""

    The school board has been partisan since at least 1996 when I moved to Raleigh.

    The partisan Democrats have controlled it most of the last twenty years or more other than the two years the Republicans recently controlled it. Then the Democrats got control back and fired TATA.

  • ConservativeVoter Sep 26, 3:59 p.m.

    "Excessive busing was a problem but there is also a need for diversity in schools. If they maintain all the schools equally then there would be less concern over economic diversity. If they upgraded schools in lower income areas the way they do for the ones around new subdivisions then some of the busing and equal education concerns wouldn't be as much an issue as they are. - MatureOne"

    They have upgraded the schools in lower income areas.

    Those are the magnet schools.

    Unfortunately, they bused the kids in the surrounding neighborhoods all over Wake County to make space for the affluent white kids from the suburbs.

  • ConservativeVoter Sep 26, 3:58 p.m.

    "Tata was the purchasing guy in DC. His only other experience was gained by taking a 6 month course on School management. He had NO experience as a Superintendant and yet he was hired to be totally in charge of one of the largest school systems in the country. Thanks in no small part to Margiotta, Tedesco, Goldman and the other lock step Republicans.
    Honesty first"

    Obama had less experience when we hired him to be President.

  • MatureOne Sep 26, 2:45 p.m.

    I find it funny that the people that are screaming about political bias on the school board are also following that statement up with political trash talk. I have children in the school system and I don't care who you vote for but you need to make decisions that are fair to all the children in the school system. The first majority board absolutely made a decision based on the concerns of a few and the new majority did the same thing. They both should try thinking about the system as a whole and keep the political garbage out of the school system. Excessive busing was a problem but there is also a need for diversity in schools. If they maintain all the schools equally then there would be less concern over economic diversity. If they upgraded schools in lower income areas the way they do for the ones around new subdivisions then some of the busing and equal education concerns wouldn't be as much an issue as they are.

  • veyor Sep 26, 2:10 p.m.

    Democrats are the anti-Midas - everything they touch turns...

  • righthere1234 Sep 26, 1:55 p.m.

    I chose to put my son in private school because the school board is nothing but a huge mess. Even though I don't have a dog in the fight per se, I still pay property taxes in Wake County, and I'm disgusted by the latest actions of the school board. When/if we decide to sell our house, we have already decided to move to another county. Wake doesn't deserve another dime of my property taxes.

  • jjlh2012 Sep 26, 1:46 p.m.

    Is there any way to oust a school board member? 4 year is too long for these new democratic board members to stay. Imagine how much more damage they can do to the school system during 4 years. How many 4 years in a child's education? We just cannot afford it.

  • Gunny the Racist Sep 26, 1:45 p.m.

    "Considering the fact that the Wake County board of education had managed to stay non-partisan until Margiota and Tedesco were elected in a fluke election it is funny to hear the Republicans now cry 'foul.' The previous school board did not even give Del Burns an opportunity to try to work with them; they fired him almost immediately. The current board tried to work with Tata but the partisanship that was so rampant under the previous board was still front and center. He was not qualified for the job; it is just unfortunate that he was not fired for cause, resulting in the county having to pay him a severance. You can thank the previous Republican majority for the now-partisan school"

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    spin-master!

  • Gunny the Racist Sep 26, 1:43 p.m.

    "Please write these clowns and tell them what you think of Tata's firing. They won't read this message board. http://www.wcpss.net/Board/boeinfo.html"

    ==================================

    I'm just re-posting so everyone will see this. SEND EMAILS!

  • batcave Sep 26, 1:42 p.m.

    seankelly1

    So training soildiers to fight is not educating---interesting concept. I am more embarrassed by an activist preacher breaking the law and interrupting legal process.

  • batcave Sep 26, 1:40 p.m.

    Mr. Tedesco you forget the 30 million federal grant that you didnt get about 2 years ago.

    Whats your point. They lost a grant when we had diversity in 2004, No school system in NC got the 100 million grant for magnet schools. EXACTLY!!

  • timwc1953 Sep 26, 1:34 p.m.

    Considering the fact that the Wake County board of education had managed to stay non-partisan until Margiota and Tedesco were elected in a fluke election it is funny to hear the Republicans now cry 'foul.' The previous school board did not even give Del Burns an opportunity to try to work with them; they fired him almost immediately. The current board tried to work with Tata but the partisanship that was so rampant under the previous board was still front and center. He was not qualified for the job; it is just unfortunate that he was not fired for cause, resulting in the county having to pay him a severance. You can thank the previous Republican majority for the now-partisan school

    If you will recall Del Burns resigned, he was NOT fired. Mr Tata had not yet been oon the job for 20 months and improvements had been made, while our current president has been in office nearly 4 years and we are over 16 trillion in debt with 43 months of 8% unemployment and he is asking for 4 more years?

  • anti-Mako II Sep 26, 1:33 p.m.

    "How many of you barking about this being a political move will vote the next school board election based on party affiliation?"
    mtnmama

    Next school board election I will vote for the candidate with the view most like my own and who will represent my beliefs the most. Isn't that what elections are about?

    But see the problem now is if I vote for that person and he/she happens to be of the same party as me, am I now voting on party affiliation? Just so happens my beliefs align more with one party than another.

  • Honesty first Sep 26, 1:27 p.m.

    Tata had worked in school management in Washington, DC before he came to Wake County. Maybe they are saying this because he was not the head guy there HMMMMMMM! Glad they don't rate doctors like this or we would be out of doctors soon too just saying.

    Tata was the purchasing guy in DC. His only other experience was gained by taking a 6 month course on School management. He had NO experience as a Superintendant and yet he was hired to be totally in charge of one of the largest school systems in the country. Thanks in no small part to Margiotta, Tedesco, Goldman and the other lock step Republicans

  • rlee1117 Sep 26, 1:23 p.m.

    It's a shame to say no to a bond issue for our schools but it's even more shamneful to trow it away once you get the money ! vote no to any school bonds in wake county till this group is gone meaning 3 more years!

  • wakeresident10 Sep 26, 1:21 p.m.

    This is totally ridiculous. Let's face it, the county is too big for one board to manage. There are 146,000 students! It's time to break up Wake County into zones. Raleigh, North Raleigh/Wake Forest, Cary, Apex/Holly Springs, etc. Yes I understand it's probably going to cost more but let's face it, what's going on now is a joke. It's time to segment the county, allow kids to go to schools close to their homes where it'll be easier for parents to become more involved, and let's end this ridiculous social engineering experiment called diversity. How about focusing on math, science, and reading instead? Take a look at each school's test scores, the busing doesn't help the kids it's intended to.

  • Raleigh Rocks 1 Sep 26, 1:16 p.m.

    Here is one reason it happened, Direct from Wake County Board of Elections website at 1-09 PM 9-26-12......No member up for reelection 2012

    District 1
    Chris Malone (2013*)
    (919) 431-7324
    cmalone2@wcpss.net

    District 2
    John Tedesco (2013*)
    (919) 701-9253
    jtedesco@wcpss.net

    District 3 (North Raleigh) Kevin L. Hill, Chair (2015*) (919) 431-7326 klhill@wcpss.net

    District 4 Keith Sutton, Vice Chair (2015*) (919) 431-7327 ksutton@wcpss.net

    District 5 Jim Martin (2015*) (919) 431-7328 jmartin4@wcpss.net

    District 6 Christine Kushner (2015*) (919) 431-7329 ckushner@wcpss.net

    Deborah P____kett (2013*) (919) 431-7330 dp rickett@wcpss.net

    Susan P. Evans (2015*) (919) 431-7331 sevans5@wcpss.net

    District 9 Debra Goldman (2013*) 919) 678-1090 dgoldman@wcpss.net

    * Next election www.wakegov.com/elections

  • Homesteader79 Sep 26, 1:13 p.m.

    I don't recall parents up in arms over Tony. While the school reassignment was, and remains, a big project, all memebers are involved. No decision will make 100% of the populus happy. So if we the people voted for this board and are the voice of our communities, why does the Board get to make this decision without public input? Wake County has taken monumental steps backward at a time when stability in the system is critical!

  • exteacher Sep 26, 1:10 p.m.

    Mr. Tedesco you forget the 30 million federal grant that you didnt get about 2 years ago. Let me remind you also of the 3 million your board wasted when you changed the location of a new high school. That amounts to 33 million that you are resposnbible for. You are suffering from memory loss. Tata lived by the sword and he died the same way.
    superman

    EXACTLY!!! Excellent points!

  • exteacher Sep 26, 1:09 p.m.

    "I guess the new Democrat majority didn't give any consideration as to how this would look to prospective replacement candidates. Anyone interested has got to be concerned that if Republicans would be as juvenile and spiteful as the Democrats, he could be out as soon as the next school board elections."

    Considering the fact that the Wake County board of education had managed to stay non-partisan until Margiota and Tedesco were elected in a fluke election it is funny to hear the Republicans now cry 'foul.' The previous school board did not even give Del Burns an opportunity to try to work with them; they fired him almost immediately. The current board tried to work with Tata but the partisanship that was so rampant under the previous board was still front and center.
    He was not qualified for the job; it is just unfortunate that he was not fired for cause, resulting in the county having to pay him a severance.
    You can thank the previous Republican majority for the now-partisan school

  • rlee1117 Sep 26, 1:08 p.m.

    Tata had worked in school management in Washington, DC before he came to Wake County. Maybe they are saying this because he was not the head guy there HMMMMMMM! Glad they don't rate doctors like this or we would be out of doctors soon too just saying.

  • dldobbins Sep 26, 1:08 p.m.

    Seems like someone needs to oust the school board and start over. Seems to me like there is where the major problems are.

  • JustAName Sep 26, 1:07 p.m.

    "We need moderation on a school board, not extremes of either side." - davidgnews

    Now we just have extreme on one side, the same as before, still pushing their failed re-engineering experiments.

  • vaparrot Sep 26, 1:07 p.m.

    SHAME, SHAME , SHAME as Gomer would say. Give Tata a chance. Same old Wake County Board. Tata had excellent credentials coming from the District. He was a success story there. Its too bad he was shortsighted and not given a chance. Their goes the bond issue just like in 1999. Bond issues pass everywhere
    except Wake.

  • rlee1117 Sep 26, 1:05 p.m.

    Correct me please if I am wrong but did Mr. Tata not come from anther school system in the DC area and if so why is everyone saying he has no experence can someone correct me on this please?

  • davidgnews Sep 26, 1:03 p.m.

    Or are you just snide commentary like davidgnews? Yankee AirPirate

    What's 'snide' about calling for moderation on a school board, or calling out nutcases?

  • gnboliver2 Sep 26, 1:02 p.m.

    To my fellow conservative friends:
    I was shocked at the apathy by my conservative friends during the 2011 School Board election...We lost our majority on the School Board due to VOTER LAZINESS!!! There are no unimportant elections. There was only 21% turnout in the 2011 school board elections!

    Any of my conservative brethren who did not vote in 2011 have NO RIGHT TO WHINE about this awful outcome. You want to solve this problem. Get off your keaster and VOTE!

  • markflugrath Sep 26, 12:59 p.m.

    I would like to see the folks who ousted Tata to be ousted themselves. How do we start this process ? The problem I see is who is going to be willing to apply for the position of School Board when they know they might not have a job in 20 months. Houses are not selling in my neighborhood because the local schools are all filled. I think this firing is a major problem. I think the school system has major problems

  • batcave Sep 26, 12:59 p.m.

    " a black man would never have been hired for this position... hello this is NC!" ChicoDusty

    Bigoted comment. Raleigh has had a black and female mayor as has Charlotte Only 58 percent are native to the state. You must have graduated from a very weak school system.

  • ConservativeVoter Sep 26, 12:56 p.m.

    "" To hire a superintendant with no policy experience in any school system and not experiencs as a superintendant except for a 6 month "How t Course" was foolish.""

    What's your point. We hired a President 4 years ago with less experience. At least Tata had worked in school management in Washington, DC before he came to Wake Couny.

  • MadMaxx Sep 26, 12:56 p.m.

    Blame Bush! That's all the democRATS do anyway

  • davidgnews Sep 26, 12:56 p.m.

    Sad part is, when republicans ran two elections ago for the school board, THEY did not mention party affiliation, it was the local media that brought it up. Nancy

    They were exposed for who they were - puppets pushing someone else's radical agenda to undermine public schools.

    Maybe they succeeded in spite of themselves now, in a most back-handed way.

    We need moderation on a school board, not extremes of either side.

  • MyKidRox Sep 26, 12:55 p.m.

    This is heartbreaking for all of the children in Wake County schools. My husband and I truly sacrifice for our son to attend private school and all of this nonsense reaffirms WHY we chose to place our little guy in a private school setting 25 miles from our house! We have a parent base that is 100% involved in volunteering and seeing that each child succeeds. The staff and faculty have an open-door policy and we always feel that we have a voice in our son's education. We proudly wear clothing with our school's name and yes, we are some of the folks that drive around with school magnets on our VERY old, but paid off, cars. We sacrifice many things but feel lavish vacations, 'toys' and dinners out aren't nearly as important as our son's education. The children of Wake County deserve a great education without all the hoopla. Board Members...go home and look in the mirror and examine your conscience.

  • nascar33 Sep 26, 12:55 p.m.

    Thank god I don't have children in this school system!

  • batcave Sep 26, 12:54 p.m.

    The whole neighborhood schools plan was a dumb idea to start with Crabbit Cratur
    No it wasn't , Charlotte made it work, closed the gap between minority and white students. Black and hispanic students out perform those of Wake. The key is not to shuffle students , but to improve the high poverty schools, you couldn't be more wrong, just like the new board, living in the past.

  • timwc1953 Sep 26, 12:54 p.m.

    Here's an idea. The president can just appoint a Czar to oversee the school board. That should work out just fine, just like all the other Czars.

  • Yankee AirPirate Sep 26, 12:53 p.m.

    "Del Burns quit, was not fired. In essence, he got mad, took his ball, and went home. Yankee AirPirate

    Yeah keep thinking that
    OGE"
    Well, elaborate. Do you know something different? Or are you just snide commentary like davidgnews?

  • washington_irving Sep 26, 12:52 p.m.

    "And yes now we have a population (mostly west wake/apex/cary) who want nice semi-private lilly white schools"-dlnorri
    September 26, 2012 12:01 p.m.

    I will be kind and say you are misinformed instead of delusional. To say that western Wake wants "lily white" schools is race baiting and simply not based in facts. I challenge you to look at ANY school there and it is far from "lily white" - there is a broad array of ethnic backgrounds, including many Asian and Indian. My "lily white" child is a minority in his class. If your underlying critique is to say there are few blacks, that is probably true. But should that matter? My kid doesn't perform better because he is surrounded by diversity, and to say other ethnic groups need whites around it a bit condescending, isn't it? Like they can't learn without whites? No, the whole issue here for me is wanting to send my kids to schools close by, that I know and can be involved in. That is the bottom line.

  • ObaMcCain Sep 26, 12:52 p.m.

    More ammunition to vote a straight republican ticket in November.

  • Likestobearrogant Sep 26, 12:52 p.m.

    Bless Charter Schools- not perfect but way better than all this.

  • JHinnant Sep 26, 12:50 p.m.

    Tata worked at the pleasure of the board...all they had to do was direct him on issues. Firing him now was a bad and costly decision. Shame on 5 board members. I suspect they'll face re-election issues.

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