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  • Reason Season Sep 20, 2012

    Why did it take the FEDs and EPA? We pay state taxes for DENR, DIVISION of WATER QUALITY, NCEEP, and the CLEAN WATER MANAGEMENT TRUST FUND. Contamination was discovered in 2005, right? I want to know SPECIFICALLY what divisions of DENR were involved in the clean-up, how it spread instead of being contained? And what if any 'grants' were involved? WRAL doesn't say the name of the company. WHY? What's wrong with NC and the ability to follow basic reporting WHO, WHAT, WHEN, WHERE, and HOW? Why did WRAL hide the name(s)?

  • peterpepper Sep 13, 2012

    This is terrible for those residents AND their prop. values.
    Will be facing this soon when we're "dumped on" by gas drilling.

  • geosol Sep 13, 2012

    themacs wrote; "It is amazing to me that some individuals are comfortable spouting wishes backed by opinions as though they are facts. Reasonable people can disagree about whether the costs of EPA regulations have outweighed the benefits. But it is an arrogant display of ignorance and/or dishonesty to say that the EPA has not produced concrete, measurable benefits.

    If you have to bluster or lie in order to make a point, perhaps it is time to re-think your position.".

    EXACTLY!!!!! This is one of the best posts ever written on the WRAL GOLO site. Thank you for your contribution. It explains so clearly how and why the right wing activists have been driving intelligent people away from the GOP these days. It's a real shame.

  • bombayrunner Sep 13, 2012

    As I'm watching the news with a tall glass of ice water this comes on .... fortunately I'm in Wakefield and its not from a well. But for a few moments I was pretty freaked out.

  • lovelarvae Sep 13, 2012

    "It is becoming more and more evident daily that the government. not God wants to be your source for drinking water."

    Is God going to monitor the wells and stop corporations from polluting our waters?

  • Crabbit Cratur Sep 13, 2012

    "AND tested regularly by someone outside of the EPA."

    Like who? A "for profit" LLC?

  • Crabbit Cratur Sep 13, 2012

    "Better check for PCBs which were used in transformers!"

    Isn't that whats polluted Lake Crabtree? Dumped by another industry that the GOP wants to deregulate.....

  • themacs Sep 13, 2012

    It is amazing to me that some individuals are comfortable spouting wishes backed by opinions as though they are facts. Reasonable people can disagree about whether the costs of EPA regulations have outweighed the benefits. But it is an arrogant display of ignorance and/or dishonesty to say that the EPA has not produced concrete, measurable benefits.

    If you have to bluster or lie in order to make a point, perhaps it is time to re-think your position.

  • Crabbit Cratur Sep 13, 2012

    "The biggest contaminant in Stony Hills is probably the EPA."

    Sigh.....

    " If I owned there, first I would accept nothing from the government, then I would hire an independent agency to run tests on my well. Then I would make a decision based on that as to my next step."

    LOL what choices would you have......play Russian roulette with your health or get Gov. water......

    " The last thing a homeowner wants is dependency on his government for any of the three essentials of life."

    yeah clean safe water food and air are just hellish!

    " It is becoming more and more evident daily that the government. not God wants to be your source for drinking water."

    God???? You think God makes it rain??? I wonder what the West did to so annoy him this year......

    " The price of a gallon of government controlled water is going to rival the price of a gallon of gas"

    LOL try getting private water cheaper........

  • mep Sep 13, 2012

    If I were drinking well water.... it would already be filtered AND tested regularly by someone outside of the EPA. Deep wells are also far less likely to become contaminated. Well water has been used safely for centuries.... but you have to keep up with the times.

  • bobbyj Sep 13, 2012

    wow it seems like most people here are very leary of their govenment. Does anyone have ant spare foil I can make a hat out of......

    I have info about the well you all would love to have...

  • wayneboyd Sep 13, 2012

    The biggest contaminant in Stony Hills is probably the EPA. If I owned there, first I would accept nothing from the government, then I would hire an independent agency to run tests on my well. Then I would make a decision based on that as to my next step. The last thing a homeowner wants is dependency on his government for any of the three essentials of life. It is becoming more and more evident daily that the government. not God wants to be your source for drinking water. I'll wager anyone on here that 50 years down the road nobody but the wealthy will be able to afford a home that has a bathtub. The price of a gallon of government controlled water is going to rival the price of a gallon of gas.

  • hardycitrus Sep 13, 2012

    >>>Found out why this property is still sitting on wake forest road unused and empty,it is on the epa clean up list
    RALEIGH ITT TELECOMS CORP 2912 WAKE FOREST RD NCD003185238

    Better check for PCBs which were used in transformers!

  • lovelarvae Sep 13, 2012

    "It is really sad that people think REGULATIONS prevent anything. If that were the case, then NOTHING bad should be able to happen. The reality is REGULATIONS prevent nothing."

    Oh come on, you can't possibly believe this.

  • lovelarvae Sep 13, 2012

    "Many years ago you could dispose of TCE by just dumping it on the ground or in the water. Now you have to pay somebody to dispose of it! Thanks a lot, EPA!!"

    Geez, I hope this is sarcasm, too. Isn't this what (allegedly) caused the problem in the first place?

  • the_Mariner Sep 13, 2012

    The EPA agent's name is Ken Rhame, not Jeff Rhame

  • staffman76 Sep 13, 2012

    It sounds like a cleaning service dumping chemicals. May be one close by... start fresh?

  • Crabbit Cratur Sep 13, 2012

    "As do I, it is an out of control Federal Agency. But hey, let us go forward and destroy all businesses."

    Nice bit of hyperbole there.....its not an either or situation. Most Companies play by the rules and don't pollute but if their competitors can gain a competitive edge by doing so we start a race to the bottom and end up with disasters like Love Canal and the Gulf Oil Spill.

  • the_Mariner Sep 13, 2012

    ""Rhame and his team are passing out bottled water and installing carbon filters to those who qualify."

    Well, they seem to think that the filter will take it out. I guess anyone with "Lamborghini" in there name knows more than someone in the water treatment industry."

    The filters and bottled water are two separate things. They can not and are not filtering a well with 325ppb of TCE. They shut it down. The family gets bottled water until a pipe is run from another development. Bottled water is not great for showers. Indecently, the 'person of interest' in this case just sold that house with the 325 reading. The new owners have a baby with serious health problems that doctors have been trying to diagnose.

    Some of the houses with lower readings are getting filters. Not $100 under sink filters - Dual tank carbon filters that run from a $1000 to $3000. I have not seen one for $100 at Lowes. And I have looked, because this junk is in my water too.

    The wral story is not the end-all be

  • southerntalent Sep 13, 2012

    Found out why this property is still sitting on wake forest road unused and empty,it is on the epa clean up list

    RALEIGH ITT TELECOMS CORP 2912 WAKE FOREST RD NCD003185238

  • hardycitrus Sep 13, 2012

    Quick call Fox's John Stossel to explain how antipollution laws create pollution.

    Because having no laws works so well for China.

  • boudin Sep 13, 2012

    Drinking water with TCE levels of approx 300 ppb like this over your entire lifetime would give you a risk of less than 1:100,000 of developing cancer. Since 1:4 people develop cancer anyway, a sunburn might be higher risk than drinking this water. I would, however, want to test my indoor air for TCE vapors if I lived here.

  • southerntalent Sep 13, 2012

    This is a link to the epas superfund cleanup site with NC towns and enviromantial cleanup areas listed

    http://www.cqs.com/super_nc.htm

  • southerntalent Sep 13, 2012

    Burlington Mills, as well as several other industries from the area long time ago probably used lots of old farmland to bury chemicals in drums,I remember just off us1 near wake forest years ago they came upon an old chemical drum dump,high point is full of old long time closed buildings with a backyard full of old rusty steel drums.

  • southerntalent Sep 13, 2012

    I guess when the EPA truck shows up it is a little to late to worry about drinking and showering. I ave my well tested yearly and use a wole house filter easy to install and use the shower filters also,better to be safe than sorry.

  • whatelseisnew Sep 13, 2012

    "They aren't very social conservative, but they do want the EPA eliminated"

    As do I, it is an out of control Federal Agency. But hey, let us go forward and destroy all businesses. I wonder???? How much pollution do you think GM and GE have created over the years. I think the EPA should move to have them shut down along with all the Oil Companies, Coal Companies, Electric Companies, Gas Companies, and so on. I am quite sure we can all move back to farming using horses and oxen and mules to plow the fields. It might be tough to go back to burning Whale oil though. I wonder if we have enough trees to be able to heat everything.

  • whatelseisnew Sep 13, 2012

    "Ah, yes but remember folks....regulations are bad for business!! Peoples health...pssh.. drjones74

    You are exactly right. Who wants those Job Killing regulations after all!!"

    It is really sad that people think REGULATIONS prevent anything. If that were the case, then NOTHING bad should be able to happen. The reality is REGULATIONS prevent nothing. At best they serve as a means to fine someone and rarely result in criminal prosecutions. Additionally, FREQUENTLY the government requires companies to do things, VIA REGULATIONS that creates pollution problems. For example, a once required fuel additive was found in wells. Then of course the LAWYERS went after the corporations instead of the Government. IT WAS GOVERNMENT that created the problem. But YEAH by all means let us have ever more worthless regulations.

  • Just Once Sep 13, 2012

    "Rhame and his team are passing out bottled water and installing carbon filters to those who qualify."

    Well, they seem to think that the filter will take it out. I guess anyone with "Lamborghini" in there name knows more than someone in the water treatment industry.

  • hardycitrus Sep 13, 2012

    The Kochs are giving $100 million to Romney.

    They aren't very social conservative, but they do want the EPA eliminated.

  • for the people Sep 13, 2012

    who needs the pesky epa when we can have corporations make much more money? then they can continue to hoarde it and not spend in on hiring and we can applaud the efforts of the most environmentally hostile congress in our nations great history. what joy!!

  • csmith517 Sep 13, 2012

    I just hope WRAL keeps on top of this. No other news is reporting it. Most of us in the area, didn't even know about it. Thank you WRAL!

  • streetglide Sep 13, 2012

    and we are willing to trust these people in assuring our wells are safe from drilling for shale gas! We can't even manage what is going on now obviously, so lets put more strain on our systems to assure safety from people making billions and running for the hills when complete. Give me a break people,, get a back bone for once and tell the truth that is best for all, not just the wealthy or businees men! (follow the money)!!

  • Lamborghini Mercy Sep 13, 2012

    clearwaterman - TCE is easily removed with activated carbon filtration. These filters can be purchased at Lowes and installed on a private well for less than $100.00. Change the filter every 3 months. The MCL (Minimum concentration level) under EPA rules is 5 ppb (parts per billion)

    At one home, EPA workers found TCE levels more than 65 times the safe drinking limit so I think they'll need a little more than a simple $100 filter from lowes you mentioned.

  • godnessgracious2 Sep 13, 2012

    It clearly states:

    "At one home, EPA workers found TCE levels more than 65 times the safe drinking limit."

  • icmfal Sep 13, 2012

    Ah, yes but remember folks....regulations are bad for business!! Peoples health...pssh..
    drjones74

    You are exactly right. Who wants those Job Killing regulations after all!!

  • clearwaterman Sep 13, 2012

    TCE is easily removed with activated carbon filtration. These filters can be purchased at Lowes and installed on a private well for less than $100.00. Change the filter every 3 months. The MCL (Minimum concentration level) under EPA rules is 5 ppb (parts per billion) They didn't state what the level was. Is it 5.1 ppb or 5.02 ppb? What is it? Bottled water is NOT REGULATED and is not tested for these contaminants. Statements of fact for all those who believe the EPA is the anwer all and end all!!

  • godnessgracious2 Sep 13, 2012

    Some of you people are insane. Access to cheap ozone destorying refrigerant is not more important than not being bombarded by UV rays.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozone_depletion

  • Luvthesky Sep 13, 2012

    @Platinum...You are right on about the impact that Fracking will have on our water supply. Only wish more people could connect the dots and see our potential future if Fracking is allowed here. If I lived on property big enough and far away enough from the fracking lands...I would be drilling a well (or two) for my own use when clean water supply will be hard to find.

  • aliput5 Sep 13, 2012

    Concerned about water safety. Just wait for the fraking and off shore drilling to begin

  • scoobyscrappy Sep 13, 2012

    Everybody who lives in this area needs to be cautioned when voting...Watt Jones is running in this district and unlike the lady he is running against he want to clean this up she has voted against it over and over...the elections are around the corner and I want clean water...Marliyn Availia voted against the enviroment bill over 15 times we need someone to clean this up.

  • baracus Sep 13, 2012

    "For those of you libs that love the EPA, the next time you need refrigerant (R22) put in your air conditioner and it costs you more that $50 per pound, thank the EPA. Ten years ago it was $5 per pound, and 15 years ago it was less than $1 per pound.

    Air Conditioning: One more luxury that we soon will not be able to afford because of the EPA."

    Many years ago you could dispose of TCE by just dumping it on the ground or in the water. Now you have to pay somebody to dispose of it! Thanks a lot, EPA!!

  • shortcake53 Sep 13, 2012

    Hoping that no one in the community suffers illnesses from this, especially the young ones. Also hoped this can be fixed in some way or another water source is made available quickly. How scarey for the homeowners.

  • baracus Sep 13, 2012

    ""If you are that worried, get it tested yourself." EPA will test it for free. Why pay? Also, TCE is not always tested for. A lot of companies only test for heavy metals and bacteria unless you specify otherwise."

    My point was that if they are worried they ought to do something about it rather than "hope" the EPA tests their water.

  • dannabower Sep 13, 2012

    This is very concerning to me. The corporations only care about profit and not how many lives they ruin. Avila has voted against environmental bills 17 out 19 times.
    It's time we give Watt Jones our votes in November.

  • Wolfpack Joe Sep 13, 2012

    I find it ironic that hydrogen and oxygen are the most common element in the universe yet all predictions for world war III will be about water supply.

    If the rest of the world spent as much money as the U.S. (*cough china, india, most of asia cough*) for environmental protection we wouldn't have as many pollution problems as we do today. Plus cost of goods from asia would be on par with the U.S. since they would have to implement the same environmental protection devices and costs associated.

    As for well testing, you should at least get your well tested by your county once every 3 years. It can identify others issues other than chemicals. It is good to maintain your well so it will last instead of waiting till it becomes an apparent problem and costs a large chunk of money to repair or it is too late.

  • Crabbit Cratur Sep 13, 2012

    'Glad to see the EPA addressing an actual problem, instead of a manufactured theory such as global warming and ozone depletion."

    Yeah, lets just ignore the pesky science - until its too late....

  • the_Mariner Sep 13, 2012

    "Question: Why would they suddenly test an established well's water unless they had reason to question it's quality? where did this cleaning agent come from? It isn't natural...so which company isn't disposing properly? I saw a movie years ago with John Travolta in it concerning " TCE"."
    Someone had fumes coming from their water in 2005 and had it tested by the county. They ad high readings and their well was shut down. It happened again in 2007 to another residence. Both were in close proximity to an electronics company in the area. The county did nothing. In June this year it was turned over to the EPA and they are actually investigating - something, the county was not doing.

  • WhiteDog Sep 13, 2012

    Is it moving toward Falls Lake? How fast does it travel?

  • luvstoQ Sep 13, 2012

    We live about 3 miles from there - wonder how far this underground contamination spreads. I have seen the trucks there the last few days and wondered what was going on.

  • the_Mariner Sep 13, 2012

    "If you are that worried, get it tested yourself."
    EPA will test it for free. Why pay? Also, TCE is not always tested for. A lot of companies only test for heavy metals and bacteria unless you specify otherwise.

    " I can't live my life in a bubble wandering if everything I eat and drink is safe, I have to use a little common sense. If I turn my water on and it is brown, sulpher smelling, sweet smelling I will worry then or first change my house filter."
    You are living my definition of "life in a bubble". Get your water tested for free by the EPA.

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