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  • btneast Jul 18, 2012

    then I want my tax money for something that benefits me.

    An educated work force does benefit you. Also, a good education system affects home and land prices. A good example is to comapre Warren County to Wake County......Warren has a on average a poorly educated work force....Wake has a highly educated work force.....look at the industry and land prices between the two.

  • Lone Voice in the Wilderness Jul 17, 2012

    "Time for vouchers"

    I don't have kids.

    I want a voucher too. I don't want my tax dollars subsidizing money to a private school. I'll support public school for the common good. But if you want to start taking pieces of the common pie to go to private school, then I want my tax money for something that benefits me.

  • Mo Blues Jul 17, 2012

    warbirdlover: I work very hard for my money. I pay lots of income taxes. "If I want to spend some money on some lottery tickets, it nobodies business but mine. I am also very good at math including calculus. Spout your rhetoric elsewhere. My kids get an excellent education in Moore County. Because I am intelligent enough to participate in there education."

    No rejoinder required......:)

  • whatelseisnew Jul 17, 2012

    "Hopefully, this will decrease the amount of "where da lottery money going" questions. Oh, wait. Given North Carolina's stance on education and the state's widespread literacy problem, I guess this article won't help much. Maybe if it had fewer words and the words were smaller, more North Carolinians could then read and comprehend it."

    You make an excellent case for getting rid of Government Controlled schools. The money should go with the Students and not to an unaccountable, inefficient and ineffective bunch of bureaucrats. Time for vouchers, State gives a portion and the counties give a portion. We not only stop building new schools and taking property off of the tax roles, we save the cost of maintenance and busing. Plus we will no longer be saddled with servicing debt. Over time we can slowly but surely close down the traditional government schools.

  • Z Man Jul 17, 2012

    So why is this money grab called an 'education lottery'? Even if all of the lottery money is going towards education then that money is supplanting other funding that pays for lawmakers pet peeves. And just how 2-faced is The Bev when she screams "it's for the children" and conveniently overlooks the fact that money is being supplanted? So we could just as easily call the lottery the 'pet projects lottery' because it really pays for the bureaucrats pet projects and NOT education. We should dismantle the lottery while we still have a shred of dignity.

  • jason19 Jul 17, 2012

    "So, if the Democrats are moving the same ammount of money from the education fund as the lottery puts in, what social programs are the education funds going to?!!! By the way, isn't this the same thing Easley (another Democrat) did with the highway trust fund?!!!"--boneymaroney13

    Huh? Democrats? Republicans control both houses of the General Assembly. Try again.

  • scottmac Jul 17, 2012

    Please do not be naive to think that the Lottery was put in place to increase the budget for Education. Once the government gets their hands on money, they spend it any where they choose. Don't get me wrong, they are not spending the lottery money on roads or something like that. They simply cut the Education budget by an amount almost equal to the money the lottery funds.

    The government can find all new ways to waste money, no matter how much they get. There are simple solutions to major problems. Stop handout programs. If someone needs food stamps, then they can work 40 hours a week cleaning litter off the ground instead of paying someone $18 an hour to do it. Stop providing welfare and food stamps to the 100,000+ Miguel Rodriguez without a documented Visa.

  • boneymaroney13 Jul 17, 2012

    So, if the Democrats are moving the same ammount of money from the education fund as the lottery puts in, what social programs are the education funds going to?!!! By the way, isn't this the same thing Easley (another Democrat) did with the highway trust fund?!!!

  • cynda-ur-way Jul 17, 2012

    How can you look at a person in line and tell if they have food stamps while buying lotto tickets? Please explain.

  • SaltyOldJarhead Jul 17, 2012

    I listened carefully when they sold the lottery to voters. They always said that the lottery money would be a supplement to the existing budget and had provisions in the bill to make sure. Then, surprise! They removed the wording from the bill and our tax dollars from the education budget.

    Welcome to bait and switch politics, as played in NC.

  • DontVote4LiarsCheatsOrThieves Jul 17, 2012

    aetius476 - "Go to any lottery outlet and watch the Food Stamp recipients line up to buy tickets. A tax on the poor."

    Based upon what? The way they look? One cannot tell from that. Most who go through our checkout lines for lottery have already paid with their groceries IN CASH.

  • jblake1932 Jul 17, 2012

    Our last two Gubners use it for general spending and their vacations and downfalls, what do we expect?

  • tarheelgrad1998 Jul 17, 2012

    "Language prohibiting supplanting was included in the Lottery Act passed in 2005. However, a budget bill that same year eliminated the language, giving the General Assembly the freedom to move dollars."

    Never trust rules governing people who make the rules.

  • duster 340 Jul 17, 2012

    This is not news it has been reported each year since the lottery started and nothing has changed.

  • dlnorri Jul 17, 2012

    The Lottary is one of the biggest scams ever played on the gullable public. Promated as 50% to winners and 50% to education, Yet adminstration consumes an ever increasing percentage, and advertising consumes an ever increasig percentage. Mostly the lottery is a job program for the politically well connected and their children. Now there are more 6 figure government jobs for those with meaningless education (can you say party school) and well connected families. Paid for on the backs of the poorest of the population trying to purchase a chance ticket to paradise. WRAL, do us a favor and get the real cost, how much money was spent by Lottary participants to gather this "education money"?

  • btneast Jul 17, 2012

    Our politicians have done a complete 180 on us in regards to lottery funding, treating it as a replacement for state funding.

    They performed exactly as they always have. Anyone who didn't think this was how the lottery was going to end up is pretty naive.

  • dsalter Jul 17, 2012

    While not a fan of organized gambling, a lottery here keeps money here instead of it all going to surrounding states. For years it was voted down...now the naysayers use it for a cash cow to cover the bases.

  • Realthoughts Jul 17, 2012

    It is great that investigations like this is it brings to light the reality of many issues. Our politicians have done a complete 180 on us in regards to lottery funding, treating it as a replacement for state funding. The problem is no action is taken to solve the issue. I wish WRAL would question the politicians who voted for the amendment to the orginal lottery bill. Tell us who who voted for the amendment so that when election time comes around, we can cast our vote to vote them out of office.

  • pastorgpz Jul 17, 2012

    Politicians including a Democrat controlled legislature told NC voters about the "education lottery: and a democrat controlled legislature likewise made a way to use the money for other purposes, a fact that NC voters were never told. Now we're told only 29% of proceeds go towards education this year! I believe our only solution is another "revolution" against this is taxing without representation mentality! It's time to stop using the phrase "it's for the children."

  • fayncmike Jul 17, 2012

    "Piene2*

    So the gambling bothers you, even though it does help education...

    That is interesting...
    casp3r"

    Do you think he wrote that in earnest?

  • brrrrabbitt Jul 17, 2012

    It was predicted from the start of the debate in the legislature that the lottery money would be used for other purposes than education, as it was in other states. The dishonest trick is to replace teacher salary and other regular education expense money with lottery proceeds. Then use the money for teacher salaries and other regular education expense money for whatever pet project they wish.
    Shows Bev Purdue is not " For The Children " as she claimed.
    The governor and the legislature misled the citizens of NC.

  • driverkid3 Jul 17, 2012

    westernwake1, don't hold oyur breath. I seriously doubt WRAL is going to uncover a decent amount of dirt on the dems.

  • warbirdlover Jul 17, 2012

    I work very hard for my money. I pay lots of income taxes. If I want to spend some money on some lottery tickets, it nobodies business but mine. I am also very good at math including calculus. Spout your rhetoric elsewhere. My kids get an excellent education in Moore County. Because I am intelligent enough to participate in there education. My 4th grader understands and can solve basic Algebraic equations. He want to become a Aeronautical Engineer. My middle son wants to design video game software. My oldest wants to be a Crab Fisherman (He loves Deadliest Catch) I believe one taste of sub zero temps will change is mind though ;-) Nothing Wrong with hard work. He is 14 and already has good working habits. Does his chores without complaint on schedule. I am proud of my boys. They are also very respectful and cause zero problems for my wife and I. They do fight amongst theirselves, but what brothers don't! !!

  • Mr. Sensible Jul 17, 2012

    i THINK THEY OUGHT TO BREAK UP THE WINNINGS A LITTLE BETTER AND BE A LIFE LINE TO MORE PLAYERS.

  • driverkid3 Jul 17, 2012

    Why don't they leave the money they have set aside for education alone, and add the lottery money to that. Instead, it sounds like they are just shugglingg money around and all the time, gouging us for more taxes for the kiddies. Does anyone else see a problem with this?

  • Card Player Jul 17, 2012

    Before the first ticket was sold, Mike Easley announced that lottery funding would be moved from education to the general fund. Calling this the NC 'Education' Lottery has been a sham from before the first ticket was sold.

    Democrat politics at its finest: "It's for the children."

  • btneast Jul 17, 2012

    N.C. is the "good ole boy state" and if you are not one of the "good ole boys" you are not going to get anything

    This happens in every state in the Union. It's unfortunately the nature of large bureacracies that are run by elected officials....

  • casp3r Jul 17, 2012

    Bullet*

    Put me down for 20 :).

    Be as good as putting it in a savings account anymore lol...

  • bullethole357 Jul 17, 2012

    I am going to start my own education lottery. If you play I guarantee you will win. Instead of playing the NC game, give me all of the money, and at the end of the year I will give you half the money back. I will keep the other half to pay for my grand kids college. I realize it's not as much fun, but that's better odds than the State of NC gives you.

  • bullethole357 Jul 17, 2012

    I predicted this before the lottery was passed. New York did the same thing. When their lottery went through a slump, the pols decided to raise taxes since the lottery was not pulling it's weight. They too changed the wording of the law that had viewed the lottery money as a supplement. They even went so far as to increase prize money to entice those unfortunate players to play even more. Politicians and bureaucrats have never seen a pot of money that they could not overspend!

  • shakennotstirred Jul 17, 2012

    All those people arguing for the lottery to help education were snookered big time. I have plenty of friends who play the lottery daily and say they do it just for the excitement knowing they aren't going to win big. I'm cool with that. I'm not cool with the bs that the gov't has pulled in regards to removing a matching amount from education and using it elsewhere. It should not be called the education lottery because it's not...

  • CommonSense1971 Jul 17, 2012

    Hey I just 1,500 dollars on a scratch off!!!! GO LOTTERY!!!!

  • superman Jul 17, 2012

    You should also remember that there are about 100 school systems that share the funds. Any amount of money that is divided 100 ways means that no one system is going to benefit a lot.

  • ncouterbanks69 Jul 17, 2012

    Go to any lottery outlet and watch the Food Stamp recipients line up to buy tickets. A tax on the poor.

    *sigh* The first sentence is 100% correct...you can see it every day. The problem is that "tax" they are paying only came from those of us who paid for their "entitlements." Basically they are buying lottery tickets with their free money. Like any other luxury this should not be allowed. If you buy a ticket on free money and win it should be void and money put back into the pot. You can see these types winning scratch off tickets with taxpayer money and it makes me sick every time.

  • Mo Blues Jul 17, 2012

    Lottery = tax on people who didn't do well in math.

  • Gnathostomata Jul 17, 2012

    Until there is a published breakdown of how much money comes in from the lottery and how much is spent and on which items, it will be mismanaged. It was supposed to supplement school funding, not take the place of school funding! And as far as laptops etc, that is the way the budget is set up; catagories for electronics cannot be used for pen and paper...and if it isn't spent, you don't get it budgeted the next year. It is wasteful, but that is how big government contracts are written...no accountability for tax money...

  • casp3r Jul 17, 2012

    Piene2*

    So the gambling bothers you, even though it does help education...

    That is interesting...

  • casp3r Jul 17, 2012

    Desid*

    You know I thought that too, then after reading the chart and thinking about it, wouldn't that cause less people to play?

    If everyonme knew they had less than 50% chance to win something, I would think less would play but I have been wrong once before :)

  • aetius476 Jul 17, 2012

    One positive with the lottery is that it acts as a tax on those who otherwise would not pay much tax. The 45% that pay NO federal income tax probably make up a large percentage of lottery buyers.

    Go to any lottery outlet and watch the Food Stamp recipients line up to buy tickets. A tax on the poor.

  • GeorgiaPeach70 Jul 17, 2012

    N.C. is the "good ole boy state" and if you are not one of the "good ole boys" you are not going to get anything but over taxed...North Carolina does not care about their citizens and the well being of them they just care about, "what's in it for me..." and that is the wrong attitude to have...

  • Desiderata Jul 17, 2012

    Should be smaller payouts and bigger paycheck for the school system. How simple is that?

  • DoingMyBest Jul 17, 2012

    "Sounds like a good time to raise taxes..."

    sure, why not. It is time the 99% pay their fair share. :)

  • piene2 Jul 17, 2012

    "Sounds like a good time to raise taxes...

    Who is with me :)
    casp3r"

    Sure, than we can get rid of that sinful gambling.

  • casp3r Jul 17, 2012

    Sounds like a good time to raise taxes...

    Who is with me :)

  • WHEEL Jul 17, 2012

    No one knows what the lottery is doing because there has NEVER been an independent audit. The Lottery tells us what a great job they are doing and everyone just believes them. Sort of like Maoff!

  • WRALwontdeletemyaccount Jul 17, 2012

    The problem with the education budget is not that gambling revenues are too low to support it, it's that there's too much spending.

    Does anyone see a problem with the fact that a regular part of the school budget is being paid for by gambling money?

    Let's ignore for the moment, the fact that we were lied to about the impact of the gambling revenue on state finances....

  • dennis8 Jul 17, 2012

    No one should be surprised here. Politicians will find a way to spend what they see as surplus money. The GOP spends it by giving it away (but still counting it a revenue for budget purposes) and the Dems spend it on new programs (without a long range budget framework). This happened in MI years ago when an "education" lottery was put in place. Took about two years until the states contribution to education went flat to be "made up" by lottery funds. I think MI may have quit pretending now and just dumps lottery monies into the general fund.

  • weasel2 Jul 17, 2012

    Its beyond me why they complain about the education budget, when spend money on laptops, IPads and other unnecessary items and the teachers have to by pencils, paper, staples and needed classroom supplies. Have the laptops and IPads increased the graduation rate, statistics say "NO".

  • JJ20 Jul 16, 2012

    I remember the shock that many students had when they realized after the 2009 fall semester that their 2010 spring semester lottery scholarships for 2000 dollars were eliminated because "there were no funds." Consequently, I knew a lot of people who had to get loans pretty quickly to make up for that. It had only been four years since the lottery's inception and I've got no idea how long ago that scholarship was founded, but that scholarship surely didn't last long.

  • mxteam44 Jul 16, 2012

    If the lottery brought in $750 billion, they'd still find a way to waste it. This story is not a "shocker"!!!

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