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  • sweetums googoo Jun 29, 2012

    @Bartmeister

    If you have healthcare now, you already pay for these things, just at a much higher rate overall...

  • Bartmeister Jun 29, 2012

    We have taken a first small step. It is going to take a lot more to bring The United states up to the level of health care available in the rest of the civilized world. piene2

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    The first small step to Socialized Healthcare, subsidized medicine and care for those that feel entitled to benefits paid by others. Yea boy, got a long way to go to catch up don't we? I've always had healthcare. Why don't others? After a 40% and higher increase in premiums, people will start to change their minds about Obamacare. No worries, it will be rectified in the next administration this coming year when Baroke is ejected and relieved of his duties as Prez. Bazinga! Done and gone.

  • georgecostanza Jun 29, 2012

    MakoII, still talking about Bush? Gosh I am beginning to believe you have a thing for him.... I mean like a "thing".

  • LambeauSouth Jun 29, 2012

    Gaining total control as we must, could very well give us the opportunity to legislate this TAX right out the window. Just a guess, but I think a real possibility. Guess we'll see soon enough!

    yankee1
    Then what? you can afford 10,000 for a check up, because then all limits are removed and they will take every last dime from you because your child is running a 104 temp, you willing to do that?

  • Crumps Br0ther Jun 29, 2012

    Rome wasn't built in a year and neither will the health care system..
    Big Mike

    Rome did collapse though. Your homework for today is to find out why and compare and contrast to what we have today. Ill get you started, the economy based upon slave labor, which is basically outsourcing, precluded a middle class with buying power, which means they couldnt buy anything. The Roman Empire produced few exportable goods, what do we ship to other countries besides jobs and a few other trinkets? Material innovation, whether through entrepreneurialism or technological advancement, all but ended long before the final dissolution of the Empire. We sell all our good ideas to other countries or its very hard for someone to get money now start a company if they have a good idea. Ya see where all this is going? Its unsustainable. But what do you care your got your freebies so what does that matter, you can fiddle while it burns too.

  • sweetums googoo Jun 29, 2012

    Next step- Single Payer. When the for-profits refuse to give a reasonable premium.
    For those that say the taxes will go up as a result, well they will (but now I can opt-in to this program if I choose whereas now I can't opt-in to someone's un-covered emergency room visit that I (and you) pay for anyway...)
    Might as well get a benefit rather than continue with the status quo and get nothing good in return...

    Stop and think for yourself... reeeeeaaaaaallllll haaaarrrrrrdddddd. You will see it...

  • MakoII Jun 29, 2012

    Republicans take the white House , Senate, and retain the House=Obamacare gone!
    stevecourt2003

    Actually no. The GOP would have to win 60 Senate seats to stop a filibuster by minority Democrats under that situation.

    There is literally no way to overturn this law. Republicans will not get 60 Senate seats for the foreseeable future. Unless Obama wins and they have a huge win in seats in 2014, but then, Obama will veto it.

    This will be law at least until 2017 and by then, people won't want to go back on losing insurance for their kids in graduate school, women paying more than men for the same insurance, being thrown off for pre-existing conditions.

    The plain fact is, people oppose Democrats and Obama, but the OVERWHELMING number are FOR the provisions. And they won't give them up.

    I have a prophesy for you: The next GOP President will ADD to Obamacare, not take it away!!!

    (Just like Bush added to Medicare)

  • sweetums googoo Jun 29, 2012

    In response to some of these comments:
    *I am not responsible for anyone else's life situation. (personal responsibility and mandate)
    *I am not responsible for anyones healthcare but my own or dependents. (personal responsibility)

    *I am currently picking up the tab for the uninsured. (nature of the current system being replaced with this law)
    *I am currently picking up the tab for those who can not find/keep a job. (social safety net we ALL may need at some point, those who want it slashed.... lose your job and see how your view changes)
    *I am currently picking up the tab for those who can not pay for the services provided by our government ... (for whatever reason or life situation one is in, you never know, your life situation may change one day...)

  • sweetums googoo Jun 29, 2012

    There is no for-profit entity involved with health care that gives a darn about you (when it comes to accounting)! These entities will take profits for a bit until the markets evolve companies to compete on this new field and prices will eventually go down, bankruptcies due to health care costs will go down, insurance companies will get more policy holders, hospitals will be paid for services rendered and the newly insured can get a regular doctors visit to address a simple ailment for a fractional cost of really getting sick and going to the emergency room for care.

    The overall cost for care will go down for everyone involved! This law is good for all involved. Now the for-profit health care entities need to do their part.

  • sweetums googoo Jun 29, 2012

    Anyone who thinks that this law is a bad thing obviously is a fool. Fear-mongering and mis-information have tainted the feeble minded. But thats OK, try and think for yourselves for a moment....
    Who do you think picks up the tab if someone goes to the emergency room with no insurance? Who...? Well the hospital eats a tiny fraction (supplemented by the GVT) and passes the difference to the insurance companies for people with health insurance (and start collections for the uninsured persons that lead to bankruptcy, foreclosures, litigations, et al ). The insurance companies then pass on the cost as premiums to all their policy holders. Does the government pick it up? Well, the local, state and federal governments pick up some of the costs if you meet their criteria.
    So who pickups the tab??? If you are lucky to have health insurance .... you (and I) do! This is a built in cost that those with coverage already pay.

  • piene2 Jun 29, 2012

    "I wish I lived in Canada...maybe we can just call the us South Canada?!
    highcountry"

    We have taken a first small step. It is going to take a lot more to bring The United states up to the level of health care available in the rest of the civilized world.

  • WooHoo2You Jun 29, 2012

    The DOW has jumped 212.37 points today…must be all those companies scared of Obamacare, right?

    LOL...

  • highcountry Jun 29, 2012

    I wish I lived in Canada...maybe we can just call the us South Canada?!

  • dollibug Jun 29, 2012

    AMERICA is lacking the *integrity* to make anything work...and without this...well...just take a look around you...AMERICA is DOOMED...

  • dollibug Jun 29, 2012

    +++++It's amazing that 9 people in the USA make up our minds for us about right and wrong.Why isn't American's voice's heard.Let "We The People"vote on all major Issues because our congress men and judges are being bought.
    j1carrillo

    The laws have been set up so this is the way it goes..and these people are able to *twist and tweak the laws to a point so that *only the good ole boys and girls would know what they are doing is NOT legal and lawful*..NC has all sorts of *laws* to follow..and it is left up to the *government run agencies* to make sure that this is done..so who exactly makes sure that this takes place???? Exactly, NO ONE..I have been *blessed or cursed* to experience *issues* which has allowed me to see and know just how the *political world works/or NOT*..when a *common citizen* has questions about something being legal and lawful..well..they tell you to *GET AN ATTORNEY*..we live in a network of *scumbags who are corrupt* and only want your money.

  • aetius476 Jun 29, 2012

    "How is it that people can afford a dozen cell phones and cable tv but dont have health insurance?" - superman

    Because they know you will pick-up the tab if they get sick.

    That will continue, most will now qualify for FREE Medicaid at taxpayer expense.

    There is no incentive to work, save or pay your bills. It's ALL FREE!

    Forward to Food Stamps For ALL! Vote in November....

  • stevecourt2003 Jun 28, 2012

    Republicans take the white House , Senate, and retain the House=Obamacare gone!

  • superman Jun 28, 2012

    How is it that people can afford a dozen cell phones and cable tv but dont have health insurance? What people have is not really based on what they can afford but rather what they think is important to them and what they want. You ever seen an old car with very expensive "rims"? The American people will be heard come November and election time. Democrats will be replaced all over this country.

  • Itchy Willy Jun 28, 2012

    "Why isn't American's voice's heard.Let "We The People"vote on all major Issues " -j1carillo

    Because we are not a federal democracy, we are a Republic. Our government is not set up that way.

  • larieke Jun 28, 2012

    Of course insurers are happy. It now allows them to overpay health care providers as they have in the past; and thus continuing to drive up the cost of healthcare for all of us patients. You and I know very well that if you don't have "insurance" you are charged MUCH less by the healthcare providers (that's all they really want in the first place). The insurance companies jack up the what they state as allowable in order to get a larger share of pot--the patient's pot. This increases the amount of their profit, i.e., 15% of a billion is a lot more than 15% of a million. Insurance companies spend dollars, not percents.

  • yankee1 Jun 28, 2012

    Changing people's votes isn't the goal. It's getting the lazy off the couch to vote!

  • Itchy Willy Jun 28, 2012

    In the scheme of things, this isn't going to affect the lives of almost the majority of Americans. Life will continue just as usual. What will affect us most is the spin commercials we'll have to deal with for the next 100 days. As far as changing people's political vote for this fall, slim to none. If you like to believe otherwise, you're living in a delusional world.

  • j1carrillo Jun 28, 2012

    It's amazing that 9 people in the USA make up our minds for us about right and wrong.Why isn't American's voice's heard.Let "We The People"vote on all major Issues because our congress men and judges are being bought.

  • Big Mike Jun 28, 2012

    Rome wasn't built in a year and neither will the health care system..

  • yankee1 Jun 28, 2012

    Our agenda to save the country is now clear. We MUST defeat Obama, keep the House and turn the Senate to save the Republic.No question about it. I will say this however. Roberts may have actually given us an opening here. By making it a tax, it is under the control of the House, the body in which all tax legislation starts and stops. Gaining total control as we must, could very well give us the opportunity to legislate this TAX right out the window. Just a guess, but I think a real possibility. Guess we'll see soon enough!

  • gwnunn Jun 28, 2012

    The only thing people can do now is make sure we vote this President out of office.

  • gwnunn Jun 28, 2012

    What they mean is they are preparing for the worst and trying to find ways to get out of this plan. Don't let them fool you, they don't like it.

  • Objective Scientist Jun 28, 2012

    Sad day in America Today.
    Uhavenoclu
    June 28, 2012 6:53 p.m.

    Why? Factual specifics please!

  • working for deadbeats Jun 28, 2012

    Ya, they're relieved. LOL!

  • Itchy Willy Jun 28, 2012

    Well, I'll say it...
    Once again, we can thank George W Bush.
    His Chief Justice Roberts wrote the favorable decision today.
    Romneycare is legal and the law.

  • Uhavenoclu Jun 28, 2012

    Sad day in America Today.

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