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DontVote4LiarsCheatsOrThieves Jun 22, 1:24 p.m.
Sumo - "This kid clearly had a reputation for being a liar - that doesn't speak well of the parents."
Where'd you dream up that information?
DontVote4LiarsCheatsOrThieves Jun 22, 1:24 p.m.
Sumo - "...but is that a reason to force someone to resign?"
The AP was retiring soon anyway.
Sumo Vita Jun 21, 1:20 p.m.
Yes, the AP was overzealous and likely overstepped her authority - but is that a reason to force someone to resign? Yes, it is - if there's a lawsuit involved, the school system wants to show that it did everything to "protect" the students. Meanwhile it's difficult to gauge how many of these faux outrage lawsuits are truly justified, as opposed simply a way for greedy parents to make a quick buck by suing everyone and everything in sight should anyone dare interfere with their little spoiled brats. I've seen this absurdity played out in other local schools systems where good, talented educators lose their jobs and careers for the smallest slip-ups because of all the dollar signs shining in the eyes of the wretches that pass for parents. I don't know the people involved, so I won't comment any further on this specific case - but geez louise, give me a break!
Sumo Vita Jun 21, 1:12 p.m.
"The school has really made a big deal out of something that could have been handled in a way to not be newsworthy."
The school system has no motivation to make this newsworthy. The parents do - clearly a law$uit beckons.
Sumo Vita Jun 21, 1:05 p.m.
The AP had submitted her resignation a week BEFORE this incident. Don't make things up.
All you parents busy raising your brats to be serial killers - or at least, cash cows - need to start by good PARENTING first. This kid clearly had a reputation for being a liar - that doesn't speak well of the parents.
beepersgrl Jun 20, 4:06 p.m.
The AP is definatley not 28 yrs old.
beepersgrl Jun 20, 12:45 p.m.
who? the AP is 28
That is my understanding, This little fellow was just trying to help someone he didn't even know.His family are close family friends.Bottom line they don't want someone else's child to have to be subjected to this treatment.
soyousay Jun 20, 12:16 p.m.
JUST LETTING YOU KNOW SHE WAS ALREADY FORCED INTO EARLY RETIREMENT ..
who? the AP is 28
beepersgrl Jun 20, 12:09 p.m.
soyousay-JUST LETTING YOU KNOW SHE WAS ALREADY FORCED INTO EARLY RETIREMENT BEFORE THIS HAPPENED.
soyousay Jun 20, 12:08 p.m.
Also found out this AP went to her job and was very upset because it was in the newspaper..
If true, this AP is beyond out of line and should be terminated, right now, no second chances etc.......
beepersgrl Jun 20, 11:55 a.m.
movetomaui-You have alot of freakin nerves.The money was found at the opposite end of the table he was at.So yeah,I guess he magically put it under the kids table that accused him.He didn't even know the girl,just trying to help LIKE HE IS BEING RAISED.You keep mentioning jail,IS THAT WHERE YOURS ARE AT.Don't be upset that she cares for her kids
beepersgrl Jun 20, 11:52 a.m.
Also found out this AP went to her job and was very upset because it was in the newspaper.So how does this boy feel now that his mom is even getting picked on for taking up for him.
soyousay Jun 20, 10:01 a.m.
some years ago, a young rising football star was accused of rape went to jail and lost what he thought was his chance..the girl and her mother got 1.5 million settlement. The girl later, years later friended him on FB and admitted it to him buut didn't want to give up the money--he was wearing a wire and is now trying to put his life togther---an extreme example of where these false accusation the "everyone knows are true lead" and a different standard for boys rather than girls...no male teacher would have touched a girl
4 kicks Jun 20, 9:49 a.m.
"hey mom, raise a better kid before he ends up in prison."
Where are u getting that he did anything wrong?
soyousay Jun 20, 9:14 a.m.
By the way---abcnews has picked this up too
soyousay Jun 20, 9:13 a.m.
hey mom, raise a better kid before he ends up in prison.
so the fact the kid is innocent just escaped you...amd precisely why this is actionable. He was singled out and humilitated based on suspcisions and then disrobed by strangers. Get this and consider it slowly, the Supreme Court of the United States as conservative as they are drew the line. Since when do strangers, and yes they were, get to command you to remove your clothing and view you in your underwear and touch you "there" and not be the police, according tothe Supreme Court not the school system. and why...because of the intellectually challenged that then stigmatize him...they should sue
Gloria Sass Jun 20, 8:22 a.m.
A strip search was uncalled for. It wouldn't matter who did it. It's an invasive act, and a personal violation.
The administrator's story seems very suspect to me. The money landed on the floor and was later found on the floor, but disappeared in the meantime, yet there is no mention is made of questioning any of the other students about the time during which it was allegedly missing.
This leaves me wondering if maybe that money was not very aggressively sought after because the teachers succumbed to the students' mob mentality after having identified a potential suspect... if another kid picked it up and then dropped it for fear of getting caught... or if the girl pocketed the money and then dropped it again in fear of being caught leveling a false accusation. What would this principal have done had the money not been found? Would she have started strip-searching other suspects? Would she have strip-searched the accuser?
beachboater Jun 19, 7:22 p.m.
"People gripe all the time about the lack of parents being involved, the child's parent wasn't contacted before, nor after the search. This is a public school. Do we really want our children raised only by the system"
Unfortunately, the school is the only raising many children get.
samr Jun 19, 7:05 p.m.
His photo was posted all along.
No it wasn't. WRAL did not post the photo until several hours after they posted the story.
soyousay Jun 19, 6:47 p.m.
FOXNEWS..."UNBELIEVABLE: Third-Grader Strip-Searched at North Carolina School After Stealing Claim"
and they spelled Ms. Holmes right, too
lebelshop Jun 19, 6:37 p.m.
If there are legal actions againts Teresa Holmes and/or the School Disctrict, I hope it will be announce publicly because I can't wait to contribute financialy. We got to make an example of this before it happens again.
soyousay Jun 19, 6:33 p.m.
KCTV Kansas City.."Third grader strip-searched at school after stealing claim"
way to go Sampson county..and the comments were just as pithy
beaulahjackson4 Jun 19, 6:16 p.m.
People gripe all the time about the lack of parents being involved, the child's parent wasn't contacted before, nor after the search. This is a public school. Do we really want our children raised only by the system, that seems to have the right to have our children take off their closed to find $20, that wasn't really even missing? It's not as if this was a military school where parentsl seemingly would expect this sort of tactic from the administration because they are generally too far away to be there. So the child had told a few lies, fibs or stories during the school year.....yeah children never do that. At the very, and I mean very least the parent should have been contacted prior to (best case) or most definitely after the incident. I would be livid if the child were mine.
soyousay Jun 19, 6:05 p.m.
Music blaring disgusting language in parking lots for the world to hear and you think this is a problem. ???
pretty much, yes what they did to that child is a problem
RM24 Jun 19, 5:51 p.m.
He was in his boxers and a shirt, boxers are not 'outer clothing' they are underwear.
Who says? I thought the were what covered your rear above where your pant went? And you think this search is scaring our children? There is more underwear shown up and down the streets than this boy showed. Music blaring disgusting language in parking lots for the world to hear and you think this is a problem. ???
KnoxOverstreet III Jun 19, 5:46 p.m.
"I must say that the latent racism in the comments was appalling before they posted his photo.
His photo was posted all along.
Mustange Jun 19, 5:12 p.m.
( NC schools need some work for sure.) STOP trying to be politically correct and go back to using plain ole common sense !
soyousay Jun 19, 5:07 p.m.
as soon as the cameras arrive from the network feeds, they will be announcing te AP's reassignment
samr Jun 19, 4:47 p.m.
i will say that you are entitled to your opinion. Having said that your opinion is pretty disgusting. It doesn't seem to occur to you that perhaps the little girl was lying or just simply mistaken.
samr Jun 19, 4:43 p.m.
Like I said yesterday, if a woman loses her job for questioning a child's home-packed lunch, then surely someone is going to lose their job over this no matter that the AP was 'within her rights'.
I must say that the latent racism in the comments was appalling before they posted his photo.
dirkdiggler Jun 19, 4:31 p.m.
"Which you didn't read."
I read it, which is where I confirmed she had him remove his pants. He was in his boxers and a shirt, boxers are not 'outer clothing' they are underwear.
KnoxOverstreet III Jun 19, 4:21 p.m.
""told him that if he had the money it would be better to just give it to me because if not I would have to search him" AP's statement"
Next time she mat water board the kid.
storchheim Jun 19, 4:19 p.m.
dirkdiggler (hmmm), he had his shirt on at the time. I said he was never in T-shirt and boxers and that's true based on her statement.
Which you didn't read. I'm done with you.
working for deadbeats Jun 19, 4:19 p.m.
Gotta love our public schools!
dirkdiggler Jun 19, 4:09 p.m.
From the AP's statement, while she was searching this child, another teacher knocked on the door and told her the money miraculously showed up, and that it wasn't on the floor when the AP took the child into her office. So if it wasn't there before the child was led away, and showed up WHILE the kid was in the office, who had it?
Maybe the girl had it all along. Maybe another child. Someone had that cash and wanted to put an end to this kid getting humiliated. Too bad they didn't just fess up instead.
Gnathostomata Jun 19, 4:05 p.m.
Do I really have this straight? A third grade girl accuses a third grade boy of taking her 20 dollar bill without knowledge that it is true, and evidently it was NOT true, and an adult takes the word of the girl without determining whether or not she actually SAW him take the money, and acts on it by strip-searching, and yes, this was a strip-search, the boy in front of a janitor, ran a finger inside his underwear, AND all this without notifying the parent beforehand or afterward? Say what? And after the search, she what.. HUGGED him? Pediphile actions! Does she really think that made it better? Wow! She can thank her lucky stars this was not my child. This is not acceptable. He was violated at school; how will this affect his behavior, learning, social standing, relationships? He may shake it off and move on, or he may have this baggage for a long time, depending on his self-esteem. But this was very wrong.
beaulahjackson4 Jun 19, 4:04 p.m.
"told him that if he had the money it would be better to just give it to me because if not I would have to search him" AP's statement
Seems "I will have to call your mother" would be more apropos. These are children, do we start treating them like criminals in elementary school? Whether or not the "right" to search is there was it necessary, especially without calling his mother first? The money "miraculously" appeared on the floor while the boy and the AP were in her office so I feel the boy was innocent. What 10 year old child wouldn't have "dove under the table" for a $20, I know some adults that aren't working that would have done that. Boys were like that to my recollection to even grab a $20 and tease the girl about it as in "I got it now". I still think this is over the top. Call the parent prior to a search or pat down. The AP's statement seems like she though she had the right to search him.....but was it the RIGHT thing to do? I don't think so.
dirkdiggler Jun 19, 4:02 p.m.
"oh, where's Daddy?"
He's right here:
Wiser_now Jun 19, 4:00 p.m.
knotup4bs - You are right.
The school has really made a big deal out of something that could have been handled in a way to not be newsworthy.
dirkdiggler Jun 19, 4:00 p.m.
Storcheim, you said, "Read her statement and see if you still say he was "violated". He was never in T-shirt and boxers; he was partly clothed with outer garments at ALL times. "
Her statement specifically says she told him to take off his pants. Do you consider your underwear 'outer clothing'?
Wiser_now Jun 19, 3:58 p.m.
Why does any administrator have any right to "strip search" a child for something as non-threatening as money. It wasn't a situation that needed to be handled in any rush. They should have called his mother or even kept the boy in the office until the end of the day. Searching him was unneccesary. I could understand it if he had a weapon. Someone should have used a little more common sense instead of trying to assert their authority.
knotup4bs Jun 19, 3:53 p.m.
Money or no money. That asst. principal should not have put her hands between that boys legs or made him strip. And the mother should have been notified.
storchheim Jun 19, 3:43 p.m.
"The child could easily have construed he was being molested..."
Mommy's doing her best to make sure of that.
storchheim Jun 19, 3:35 p.m.
lebelshop, I'd watch my slanderous comments if I were you. Calling this woman a pedophile, even spelled ignorantly, might just get you more than you bargained for.
storchheim Jun 19, 3:33 p.m.
sunshine1040, that girl does not have to explain to ANYONE why she was carrying the money, much less appear in front of the school board. Carrying money is NOT a crime!
Your statement is appalling, frankly. And the red herring stinks.
promethazine codeine lover Jun 19, 3:29 p.m.
soyousay Jun 19, 3:28 p.m.
Again, a frog understands better than some.
astounding. a frog..
still the boy was groped, and then hugged and when you are older you will understand too
soyousay Jun 19, 3:26 p.m.
back when I was growing up, I woulda got a whupping for putting myself in this situation..
amazingly, that explains a lot about your comments
BEACH Jun 19, 3:25 p.m.
If My child had been strip searched without me there, God help them when I got to that school.
DontVote4LiarsCheatsOrThieves Jun 19, 3:23 p.m.
scuse2 - "...I woulda got a whupping for putting myself in this situation."
All this kid seemed to do was find $20 and return it, or try to return it, to the owner. Why would you get "a whupping" for doing that?
Published: 2007-10-05 09:38:00
Updated: 2013-09-05 17:25:12