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  • Sherlock Feb 26, 6:24 p.m.

    What is new about this, the school will not do anything, but raise the cost and point fingers the other way.

  • weasel2 Feb 26, 3:39 p.m.

    Do you really think they will do anything. You noticed Holden Thorpe to the fastest stagecoach out of town. its all a front for sports. Time to get rid of the teams and make them get an education.

  • pressingncaa Feb 26, 12:04 p.m.

    Forgery of official academic records does not constitute a criminal offense? On what planet?

  • halstevens12 Feb 26, 10:57 a.m.

    What about the love birds. Matt and Tammi taking over $13,000.00 dollars and then paying it back after they got caught and no jail time. Any one else would have been handcuffed and carried to jail where they would have been tried and till have to pay the money back. How is it they get a free ride?

  • lmarks Feb 26, 9:51 a.m.

    Where's Carl Fox when you need him?

  • NCSUEngineerFC Feb 25, 7:40 p.m.

    "@ turtledove: Before you criticize "Turf Management," maybe you should review the program a little further. Soil fertility, pesticide application, turfgrass pathology, soils taxonomy, etc. The graduates of that program make major bucks managing the turfs at major league baseball parks, golf courses, etc." -mustangnut

    You can say that again. I have a friend who graduated in turfgrass management and is the superintendent for a course in Winston-Salem and is making around $70k/year. Just shows you how ill-informed some of the UNXers are regarding the programs at NCSU that they like throw hate at.

  • jdupree Feb 25, 7:24 p.m.

    Why would any University pay someone $172,000 per year to direct a curriculum where the only place you could get a job would be in the University! Bet they do no have a single degree issued or if they did, the person is not working in their subject area! WHAT A WASTE OF TAX DOLLARS!

  • jdupree Feb 25, 7:21 p.m.

    He does not have the spine to try anyone on this! Too much dirt would come out!

  • ccsmith1902 Feb 25, 6:14 p.m.

    Sorry, but this involved more than 2 people! There was fault at many levels.

  • Naysayer Feb 25, 4:33 p.m.

    I wish they would just shut down the entire The Af-Am Department. What a complete waste of tax payers money and limited resources.

  • Terkel Feb 25, 4:23 p.m.

    IDK what the supposed scandal is with Turfgrass Management at NCSU, but it's a course in the Horticulture curriculum for people who want to manage golf courses and the like.

  • dirtydozen431 Feb 25, 4:19 p.m.

    Jim Woodall has to have the hardest job in NC there in the land of Odz.

  • aetius476 Feb 25, 4:10 p.m.

    "In asking the SBI to look into the case, Woodall granted that it is unlikely that anything criminal was going on, but said the pair could have committed academic, computer or financial fraud."

    Huh???? I thought FRAUD was a crime!

    The good professor will not suffer any consequences to speak of. They will give him retirement and benefits, and a nice pension since he "voluntarily" left.

    Heck, Mary Easly made out with a bundle, despite all the fraud and nepotism in her hiring and tenure.

    They throw the public a crumb with many faux "investigations", promise to do better, and handsomely take care of their own at public expense.

  • christopher27519 Feb 25, 4:02 p.m.

    I'm not drinking from the well!

  • Terkel Feb 25, 3:57 p.m.

    I'm starting to think this is just the way things are in NC politics.

  • sjb2k1 Feb 25, 3:55 p.m.

    lol nice picture wral.

  • retprof Feb 25, 3:47 p.m.

    If you want to find the easy classes on any campus merely follow the athletes in the major sports. While these athletes are not dumb. In fact it usually requires significant intelligence in addition to athletic ability to excel at sports. However they are for the most part not interested in academics. I am sure that they are "helped" to find the less demanding courses and curricula.

  • jgilchr Feb 25, 3:25 p.m.

    "In asking the SBI to look into the case, Woodall granted that it is unlikely that anything criminal was going on, but said the pair could have committed academic, computer or financial fraud."

    Last I checked computer and financial fraud are in fact crimes.

  • issymayake Feb 25, 3:23 p.m.

    If no one else approved these things, then there are real problems with the way academic courses are scheduled at UNC-CH. On the other hand, if someone else had to sign off, then Nyang'oro and Crowder are not the only two individuals involved in this farce.
    UNCle

    Finally someone who actually understands how higher education administration works. I was beginning to worry.

    This scandal does not effect the other UNC system schools. The other schools have their own problems and scandals, that they bear on their own, that don't affect the other UNC schools at all. So this one belongs to UNC-Chapel Hill and them alone.

  • disgusted2010 Feb 25, 3:18 p.m.

    "Woodall said the SBI has free rein to look into any possible crimes, including conspiracy to conceal criminal activity"

    Problem is that the SBI has been eroded so much under Roy Cooper that they could not find their backside with both hands and it would take them two years to fail at it. The SBI, as presently constituted, is as much of a joke as the African American Studies Department.

  • early exit Roy May 18, 3:37 p.m.

    Isn't it amazing how anything tied to unethical issues at unc, whether it be academics or athletics, unc decides to react instead of being proactive in these investigations. Once the investigation gets out unc then makes a statement about asking the SBI and other law enforcement about getting involved. So once the cat is out of the bag unc then comes forward requesting an investigation.

  • mustangnut May 16, 11:17 a.m.

    @ turtledove:
    Before you criticize "Turf Management," maybe you should review the program a little further. Soil fertility, pesticide application, turfgrass pathology, soils taxonomy, etc. The graduates of that program make major bucks managing the turfs at major league baseball parks, golf courses, etc.

  • 7Degrees May 16, 10:53 a.m.

    Didn't UNC just announce that they were the "flagship" school in system during the NCAA investigation? Why don't they act like a leader and show the rest of us some accountability! Grade fixing for more than 5 years? Numerous faculty stating that they didn't tech the course for which grades were given? Did the students even pay for the courses?

  • kermit60 May 15, 8:18 a.m.

    It is an outrage that he will retire with a state pension. UNC talks alot about being upset but they have taken no action to punish this professor. I'm sure if it would have been a white professor and the course was european studies the outcome would be much different. I'm sure that part of the course was the proper application of the "race card".

  • rherring23 May 14, 7:56 p.m.

    turtledove. It has not got anything to do with thr crib courses, everybody know that all schools have easy classes to help athletes, thats not the problem. When you have a department of a university with widespread scandal, thats the problem. When you have forgery, unauthorized grade changes, fraud, and other issues and the head of the department and top assistants are involved, That is not something that happens at all school and is unexectable at any school.

  • Nancy May 14, 7:47 p.m.

    "Applause to the professor who exposed this."

    It wasn't a professor, it was students at NCState who saw a plagairized paper written by one of the football players and made a huge fuss over it online, one thing then led to another and it was exposed.

    "Questions regarding Nyang’oro’s instruction started after another football player kicked off the team, Michael McAdoo, had made public a class paper that got him in trouble. N.C. State University fans found several plagiarized passages that the university and the NCAA did not catch."

    Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2012/05/07/2050797/unc-football-basketball-players.html#storylink=cpy

  • jmorrison1414 May 14, 7:27 p.m.

    There needs to be more digging into UNC folks. The school has a Mother there in management and she got her daughter hired on. Why is it that State jobs are all being filled by everybody's family with higher pay than anyone else starting out? Same situation as the Emergency Department getting caught! Why Why Why is this allowed?

  • djofraleigh May 14, 7:19 p.m.

    If people could get RACE out of this, it would look like Fraud, maybe criminal, but certainly of the university. The faculty of UNC system are too insulated,protected from being held accountable and responsible I suppose. Being allowed to retire does NOT square the deal here.

    Cut funding to the UNC flagship by a couple of positions and set up a system of checks and balances on all professors, including a bounty & protection for students who whistle blow. All professors are now suspect. Applause to the professor who exposed this.

    I suspect the athletic department knew to take advantage of these courses.

  • ladyblue May 14, 7:15 p.m.

    UNCLE-thanks for stating what is involved here as i really don't understand the college coursers of today, but i think it's a mess if this is happening as you explained..( so eloquently i may add.) thanks. It seems no one does any outsider auditing anymore, if it's taken this long also for authority to question things. Be interesting to see what happens.

  • ladyblue May 14, 7:10 p.m.

    "Nyang’oro, who was department chair in the African and Afro-American Studies program, resigned his chairmanship last August, immediately before the university began its investigation. He will retire completely effective July 1. Crowder retired in fall 2009"

    The sad part of this is since they already will be retired as opposed to resigned, it won't affect the money entitlements I'm sure the state of NC will be sending them. Thatis, if they find that there has been wrong doings. I'm sure he resigned chairmanship at an opportune time..LOL the government wishes to talk about fraud in medicare, what about fraud and waste inside government workers and errors/carelessness has cost taxpayers, which hardly any amount of reimbursement for monetary damages. I'm old enough to known the day that the majority of politicians were honest enough that you asked whose got dirty hands but now it's whose got clean hands as it seems to be less of them anywhere in government jobs. (federal,state &local)

  • warbirdlover May 14, 7:09 p.m.

    Water. I would love to be a Train Engineer. Not only would it be super cool, they make some serious Money. Average Salary is about 65K. Not bad for sitting on your backside and blowing the horn.

  • The Fox May 14, 6:54 p.m.

    [but the (African American)classes I took were among the most academically rigorous courses I took during my undergraduate career.]

    Yeah I remember calculus and physics being crib classes.

  • UNCle May 14, 6:53 p.m.

    "The report states that Nyang’oro and Crowder are the only two individuals who are directly linked to the irregular courses and grades."

    How can this be? Did no one approve the classes (a dean or someone in Registration and Records, for instance) and the pay for those classes? Did no one check to make sure the appropriate student evaluations were done, as they are supposed to be? How can Nyang'oro approve his own pay? If he can set his own salary for teaching summer school over and beyond his normal salary, then things really are screwed up. And wasn't Nyang'oro already a 12-month employee, so how could he teach on an overload basis without his supervisor (a dean) approving this exception?

    If no one else approved these things, then there are real problems with the way academic courses are scheduled at UNC-CH. On the other hand, if someone else had to sign off, then Nyang'oro and Crowder are not the only two individuals involved in this farce.

  • boneymaroney13 May 14, 6:53 p.m.

    OK anneonymousone - I'm just picking at you. I'm sure these Women's Studies, African Studies, and Turf Management pograms mean a lot to some but, they seem to be just a few of the many "give me" courses just to get athletes school. Anyway, lighten up!!! No one takes these comment pages serious, unless you start spouting support for obama.

  • boneymaroney13 May 14, 6:46 p.m.

    Don't you get it???? People are trying to tell you these courses are a joke, ie. Turf Management??? And these students want more grant money to study what?!!!

  • UNCle May 14, 6:40 p.m.

    I thought Ross thought the investigation was over.

  • anneonymousone May 14, 6:35 p.m.

    Boney Maroney13, I have not addressed the alleged actions of specific current and former department members because I do not know enough to speak on their situations intelligently.

    I merely suggest that statements about the academic merit of African-American Studies ---in general---as a multidisciplinary field of study are best made by people who have actually done coursework in that field.

  • InTheNo May 14, 6:29 p.m.

    "Woodall said the SBI has free rein to look into any possible crimes, including conspiracy to conceal criminal activity"

    Good. I don't care about this professor as much as the connected, highly paid administrators, provosts, chancellors and such. Now it seems more apparent why Baddour left when he did, right? Next should be Swofford, Roy and Thorpe. Come on guys, the writing is on the wall... get out while you can.

    Do the ENTIRE UNC system a favor. Your arrogance is appalling.

  • anneonymousone May 14, 6:28 p.m.

    In no way do I mean to excuse what is inexcusable, but the investigations are not complete. To accuse, ridicule, and slander an entire department without proof is evidence of prejudice--- judging beforehand.

    And no, I am not affiliated with any local college or university.

  • turtledove May 14, 6:25 p.m.

    In addition Wake county DA will investigate "Turf Management" courses at NC State. Come on folks "crib courses" for athletes has been going on for years how do you think colleges can afford to offer them scholarships! They pretend to send them to school while the players make tons of money for the various universities and sports departments.

  • boneymaroney13 May 14, 6:24 p.m.

    Yeah, I wonder why also FragmentFour why HE was made chairman or how he was picked.

  • twc May 14, 6:22 p.m.

    Is anyone actually surprised? The only surprise would be that some action was taken.

  • FragmentFour May 14, 6:20 p.m.

    I'm really curious as to how Nyang’oro got to BE chair of his department. Usually a chair is picked by a majority vote of tenured departmental professors... looks odd the way this is coming down. Crowder.... eh, admins are a dime a dozen. And honesty isn't necessarily a component in their job description. But the chair usually comes from better stock.

  • anneonymousone May 14, 6:19 p.m.

    I'm a white woman who was welcomed into every African-American Studies course I took. I can not speak for any local college or university programs, but the classes I took were among the most academically rigorous courses I took during my undergraduate career.

    I took Women's Studies courses, too, which were of similar rigor, and had many male classmates. People who make judgments without first-hand knowledge would do well to set aside what they've heard and experience some of these classes for themselves.

  • boneymaroney13 May 14, 6:18 p.m.

    Yeah, yeah, yeah, anneonymousone. And I guess we will be reading about this fine professor in history one day as well. Wouldn't wan to wast my time on that one either!!

  • Nancy May 14, 6:17 p.m.

    plenty, I give up on you. Education funding is one source, get rid of fraud in one area, it frees up money for the rest of the education needs.

    I know that's too complex for you, you seem to believe that education money is in special lock boxes and the coins don't travel one to the other.

  • myrtlebeachrock May 14, 6:13 p.m.

    After all this... looks a degree from NC State or ECU could be the better degree. Never hear much about cheating at those schools.

  • anneonymousone May 14, 6:10 p.m.

    Bjraper and BoneyMaroney13 want to know where the Caucasian Studies Dept. and classes are. Open most American history books and look for anything other than token mention of accomplishments and contributions by anyone other than white men. Don't get me wrong; white men are fine with me; Dad's one, I've dated and befriended white men. The point is that the study of history, literature, social sciences, etc. is not complete as long as only white men are at center stage.

    Rather than doubting African-American Studies or Women's Studies as fields of intellectual endeavor, you may want to ask what about how these traditional fields are taught and studied makes these courses and departments necessary.

  • Alex25 May 14, 6:04 p.m.

    Been happening at UNC-CH for decades................simply read Lawrence Taylor's book.

  • ccsmith1902 May 14, 6:03 p.m.

    With the approval process for issuing grades, changing grades and contact hours for professors, I would think there are more heads that need to roll. Did he have a buddy in the Registration Office???? Was he being paid for contact hours and not meeting the classroom requirement? That certainly seems the case.

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