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  • whatelseisnew Feb 10, 7:30 p.m.

    "Some board members said they were not happy that campuses must put aside 25 percent of tuition increases for financial aid. They said that amounted to students paying for other students and that those costs should be covered by the legislature."

    The convoluted logic here is priceless. While I agree NONE of the tuition should go to financial aid, what actually needs to happen is that taxpayer subsidy of these schools needs to end. They need to survive on their own or go away. The State is deeply in debt and is facing some huge financial problems that get even worse if ObamaCare remains in place.

  • Plenty Coups Feb 10, 6:25 p.m.

    "TUITION INFLATION: Too many useless curricula; too many Vice Chancellors.......NO TENURE"

    Too much unsubstantiated talking points and rhetoric.

  • Plenty Coups Feb 10, 6:24 p.m.

    Justaname-" Money into a 401k or an IRA isn't guaranteed to provide a certain return. And you are guaranteed your money, no matter how in debt the state is or underfunded the program is."

    Wrong. Pension funds are at the mercy of the General Assembly. Just like previously guaranteed step pay raises for teachers, merit pay for high test scores, and previously OK health care plans. Quick budget votes and midnight sessions can end anything.

  • Uhavenoclu Feb 10, 6:19 p.m.

    Wasn't it originally posted as being only 7.5%, Now it's 8.8% seems like everything else associated with Chapel Hill and the where abouts is nothing but lies.

    It's called extra pocket change for the higher ups.

  • Uhavenoclu Feb 10, 6:18 p.m.

    Don't worry,many of the great inventors and minds never went to college and were either kicked out or dropped out.
    You learn on the streets and in your daily routine and employers who require you to have a degree to work,don't know good work and people when they see em.
    Oh yeah my pizza delivery guy has a masters and his friend who has a bachelors degree is working at gamestop.
    While the star player on their college team is washing cars.The one voted not likely to succeed is living in a mnsion making billions a year.
    Appearance is only an illusion.

  • armada08 Feb 10, 6:17 p.m.

    For a college education, the UNC system is an excellent deal, even with the tuition increase-compare it to the SUNY (State University of NY) system: to attend, say, SUNY Albany instate tuition, not including R/B is around $5300...to attend UNCCH, full time tuition is about $3500... I would say that is not a bad deal, even with the increase.
    Now, where folks need to complain is why they are not taking the funds from the football or basketball coaches salaries?!? When the new, incoming football coach will be getting paid $1.7million a year, I would like to know where THAT money is coming from, and why that money isn't going towards academics...

    As North Carolinians, we get excellent educations for very good price...

  • issymayake Feb 10, 6:15 p.m.

    as400 and sillywabbit,

    Thanks for being honest. I'm just trying to make comparisons. I went to school on full scholarship in the 1990s, but I still worked. But there was no way I could have paid my tuition with a part-time job and still graduated in four years.

    I applaud your efforts, but there certainly isn't a one-size fits all solution to this issue.

    Doesn't change my stance on this, as there is a funding problem. I think the General Assembly will reject the increase. Ironically seeing as they are the ones who demanded the cuts in the first place. College students are one hades of a voting bloc, if someone can get them organized; so GA members should tread lightly.

  • Alex25 Feb 10, 6:02 p.m.

    Students and and Parents: PAY YOUR SHARE.

    TAXPAYERS are sick of footing the majority %.

  • Alex25 Feb 10, 6:01 p.m.

    TUITION INFLATION: Too many useless curricula; too many Vice Chancellors.......NO TENURE

  • Screw WrAl Feb 10, 5:58 p.m.

    See, those who protest really can bring change!

  • are you kidding me Feb 10, 5:20 p.m.

    school systems under the foot of professors and their pensions

  • babedan Feb 10, 5:17 p.m.

    Wasn't it originally posted as being only 7.5%, Now it's 8.8% seems like everything else associated with Chapel Hill and the where abouts is nothing but lies.

  • ryderted Feb 10, 5:01 p.m.

    I have to be honest. I got by on my incredible good looks. I found that women just threw money at me all throughout college--heck even now.

    I just flash them the winning smile and bam, presto...I have a 100 dollar bill in my wallet.

  • floydthebarber Feb 10, 4:53 p.m.

    Echoing the sentiments of posters below- this should come out of the pockets of board members and the enormous school trusts, not the students struggling to get ahead in this world!

  • madcoat1 Feb 10, 4:47 p.m.

    For those who are interested. The military is a great way to go to pay for tuition. Either through ROTC, the academys, or enlisted for the GI-Bill, which is what I did. Paid for all of my college with a stipend to boot. No student loans. Serve your country people. Stop bickering.....

  • routermen Feb 10, 4:31 p.m.

    Easy way to fix that. Have a statewide student strike. Next they will charge a fee just to walk into a building.

  • as400_guru Feb 10, 3:59 p.m.

    issymayake:

    1. I graduated high school in 1969. Worked for $1.25 - $1.40 an hour.
    2. I attend a Jr/Community College for the first 2 years. Drove/car pooled 25 miles each way for 2 years. I then transferred to a school 150 miles away for the last 2 years.
    3. Traditional student by your definition.
    4. Took me 4 years.
    5. I worked, but mostly off campus. The last 2 years I would come home (the 150 miles) and work every Friday and Saturday. This job paid about $4.50 an hour.

  • weasel2 Feb 10, 3:41 p.m.

    Need to do a salary check on all the big wigs and conpare it after the tuition hike goes into effect. bet you will see alot of pay raises.

  • ICTrue Feb 10, 3:26 p.m.

    They are liberals...It does not matter how much money they take in, it will never be enough and they will always be begging for more. It's all they know.

  • heelrox Feb 10, 3:11 p.m.

    Wow, you can tell by the posts that the University system employees are out in force.

  • YeaOh Feb 10, 3:10 p.m.

    There's is simply TOO MUCH money available for colleges. There is NO incentive to reduce anything. The Feds, the states, charities plus thousands more civic groups and organizations shovel tons of money in "scholarships" to colleges. Party on colleges, party on.

  • YeaOh Feb 10, 3:03 p.m.

    JustAName - Don't forget 30 years and out and cost of living increases for life and govt medical plan. AND Social Security if you retire and go back to work in the private sector. Party on government workers, the rest of us will continue to work to pay your benefits. Welcome to Wal Mart!

  • kjones026 Feb 10, 2:52 p.m.

    Don't blame the Schools, blame the banks, right OWS? How they can get an ok to increase tuition time after time is just beyond my comprehension. How about a decrease once in a while. Laughable, huh....

  • sillywabbitthepatriot Feb 10, 2:52 p.m.

    A college education is an investment, not an entitlement. To answer issymayake's questions, college educations and living expenses have always been expensive, regardless of what years you attended. This little thing called inflation has a way of raising the cost of everything, including working wages. No one is forced to go to Duke or a school that is not state supported. No one is forced not to attend a community college for a few years before they attend a major university. UNC BOG can raise tuition as much as they like and fewer students not applying will not result and they know that.

  • JustAName Feb 10, 2:39 p.m.

    "Pray tell. What beautiful benefits and retirement plans do we have? " - Dukefan1

    Yes, 6% is used from your pay check. However, you are guaranteed (with full retirement) 60% of your top 4 years of pay. Money into a 401k or an IRA isn't guaranteed to provide a certain return. And you are guaranteed your money, no matter how in debt the state is or underfunded the program is.

  • ladyblue Feb 10, 2:37 p.m.

    WOW- that's one big increase.. The only thing i wonder is what good does it do for all these leaders to stress about education but now it's going to be so high some can't go and those that get government help will sure run up taxpayers costs won't it?

  • ryderted Feb 10, 2:35 p.m.

    wgu.edu--regionally accredited, 3000 bucks a semester, degree all up in your face...get a job...laugh at the suckers!

    Force the colleges to adapt to the 21st century world of instant, online, inexpensive education by sending your money elsewhere.

  • watash60 Feb 10, 2:34 p.m.

    6 Colleges Cutting Tuition

    http://www.smartmoney.com/borrow/student-loans/6-colleges-cutting-tuition-1328828632715/?link=SM_hp_ls4e

  • issymayake Feb 10, 2:22 p.m.

    A few questions for the 'I worked and paid my way through college crowd'. Please answer honestly. . .

    1) When did you attend? Was it before 2000?
    2) Did you grow up in an area where a college was located? If not, did you live on campus?
    3) Were you a traditional student when you started college (ie age 18 - 24)?
    4) How long did it take you to finish?
    5) Did you work on campus?

  • unclegrits Feb 10, 2:21 p.m.

    "12 years of Catholic school and 2 great parents made me more "educated" than most of the nitwits that graduate these days."

    Do you put I had great parents on your resume? How is that even relevant? Sure you like them I get that, but they don't replace being able to put having a degree on your list of benefits you offer a company.

  • as400_guru Feb 10, 2:06 p.m.

    Dukefan1:

    1. I put myself through 4 years of college. Paid the entire amount myself. I started working when I was 11, pedeling papers. Worked throughout high school and college. Was it TOUGH? Dang right it was.

    2. Who is the "we" to which you refer? Do you work at a university? Do you NOT have the ability to find a higher paying job?

    3. Simply stated: If you want a college education, GREAT. But don't gripe and complain about the price of it. Grin and bear it or find some other college.

  • JustAName Feb 10, 1:57 p.m.

    "If you are not in college or paying for your child's college expenses, you should really stay out of this argument." - Dukefan1

    Well, anyone who pays taxes that help fund the UNC system has a bone in this argument. I think there is plenty of fat to be trimmed in the university system.

  • as400_guru Feb 10, 1:57 p.m.

    uncletrits, you stated "...Well here is your mistake, having only a high school diploma does not make you educated. Unless you have a 4 year degree you are not part of the educated class of Ameica {sic}".

    Having a four year degree does not make you educated if you never learned anything. A lot of the OWS crowd have 4 year degrees, but they sure as heck aren't educated.

    12 years of Catholic school and 2 great parents made me more "educated" than most of the nitwits that graduate these days.

  • Dukefan1 Feb 10, 1:47 p.m.

    "State workers have beautiful retirement plans and benefits. I don't."

    Pray tell. What beautiful benefits and retirement plans do we have? Money is taken from our checks for our retirement and benefits for the state suck now. Please tell me if I am missing something I am entitled to...like the beautiful benefits!

  • Dukefan1 Feb 10, 1:37 p.m.

    If you are not in college or paying for your child's college expenses, you should really stay out of this argument. You don't understand what it is like to pay the tuition and fees we are paying. Don't forget we haven't had raises in years...even tho the university system gets to raise tuition. To me, there is something terribly wrong with this picture.

  • PowderedToastMan Feb 10, 1:17 p.m.

    perhaps they can compromise and not raise tuition for those already enrolled in the school.

  • unclegrits Feb 10, 1:17 p.m.

    "Having an education doesn't equate to intelligence, how many times do we see high school graduates that cannot do simple math or write a complete sentence properly?"

    Well here is your mistake, having only a high school diploma does not make you educated. Unless you have a 4 year degree you are not part of the educated class of Ameica.

  • ryderted Feb 10, 1:00 p.m.

    I hate how everyone in America must belong to a party and defend it at all costs. I buy into that sometimes but it's wrong. These parties are actually funded by people with ulterior motives in a lot of cases. Besides, I don't like parties, there are balloons there. "Balloons explode. They explode suddenly, and unexpectedly. They are filled with the capacity to give me a little fright, and I find that unbearable."

  • Nancy Feb 10, 12:49 p.m.

    "These things come with a cost, and the major difference between now and five years ago, is that when tuition increased then, it was to improve those aforementioned things. Now the increases are used to cover shortfalls being forced upon the universities by the General Assembly."

    You mean all those increases annually well above the rate of inflation had ONLY to do with maintaining nice facilities?

    That's a stretch.

  • as400_guru Feb 10, 12:45 p.m.

    ryderted...THANK YOU!! That does it for me. I am convinced. I will be checking my mailbox periodically.

  • geosol Feb 10, 12:43 p.m.

    Some ignorant right winger wrote here:
    "For all of you "education should be free" people:"
    That would be ALL of the people in North Carolina. Try reading the North Carolina Constitution; Article IX, Section 9. If you don't like the Constitution of North Carolina, you should leave.

  • aspenstreet1717 Feb 10, 12:38 p.m.

    Its all a game. They raise tuition the students take out more subsidized loans. The cheap abundant loans are the problem.

  • ryderted Feb 10, 12:33 p.m.

    I personally think high school should end at 16 and kids should either work or go to school. We can use the money saved to help fund public universities and community colleges.

    Kids tend to think they know everything at 16. Let them get out in the workforce sooner so they realize it's no picnic earlier. They will be more serious about college when they decide to go then and a lot of money will be saved.

  • ryderted Feb 10, 12:31 p.m.

    Put all the expenditures online so we can see why the costs are going up--all expenditures.

  • ryderted Feb 10, 12:29 p.m.

    @AS400

    Yes. You should pay for it all by yourself. We all would be very grateful and we would even send you a a couple of thank you letters.

  • issymayake Feb 10, 12:28 p.m.

    Another thing, if this information is made available and the average citizen doesn't want to analyze the data and offer help then they very well can't complain about tuition costs rising then now can they? - ryderted

    The sentiment now is different than even five years ago. Students want great services, nice facilities, excellent professors, and diverse opportunities. These things come with a cost, and the major difference between now and five years ago, is that when tuition increased then, it was to improve those aforementioned things. Now the increases are used to cover shortfalls being forced upon the universities by the General Assembly. Their ire is misdirected, but I guess it's easier to walk to GA, from the Old Well than it is to get to the statehouse.

    It's hard to understand why universities are dealing with cuts ranging from 15% to 40% in the past three years, while Thom Tillus is giving his staff a raise and hiring new people.

  • cwood3 Feb 10, 12:23 p.m.

    I wonder how many salaries or travel expense plans were reduced. I know they have trimmed some staffing.

    Keep raising tuition, and we will lose the heart and soul of the UNC System-the middle class students! Gee-I wonder what a university would be like with much fewer students. A place only for rich kids???

    We need to figure out how to fix this problem. The fix is not thru taxation of the rich or a confounded sales tax!!

  • OGE Feb 10, 12:21 p.m.

    Just some more of the - Change We Can Believe In!
    mike275132

    So tired of hearing the uneducated spout phrases they've heard on 680.

  • Kiteflyer Feb 10, 12:21 p.m.

    I understand that a rate hike is inevitable. Why not apply a given rate across the board? It seems unfair for one institution to get by with less than 5% when others are barely under 10%. All are part of the same system treat everyone equally.

  • OGE Feb 10, 12:20 p.m.

    waaaa!

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