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  • readerman Jan 12, 6:00 p.m.

    Great news!! Keep up the good work.

  • 3forme Jan 12, 5:23 p.m.

    FYI to an earlier comment about showing id for the purchase..If your pharmacy does not require id then they are breaking the law..My wife is a pharmacy tech for a major chain...

  • Qwerty27807 Jan 12, 5:01 p.m.

    Meth is the only growth industry in Eastern NC, so it seems to me that they're just killing jobs with this silliness.

  • Follow_The_Money27617 Jan 12, 4:17 p.m.

    Victimless? Have you ever seen a meth lab explode and burn? Have you read about the severe bio health hazards that remain after a meth lab has been moved or shut down? There are more than your useless meth heads at risk here.
    genralwayne
    January 12, 2012 2:48 p.m.
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    LOL so can a "works bomb". Whats your point? There is no victim. Stop harrassing people and mind your business. You dont like meth? Stay away from it like I do cigarettes, fat people, and smelley people. Get it?

  • mikeyj Jan 12, 3:36 p.m.

    Did you not read the number of participating states. NC is not alone. As for your allergies maybe you might want to move as there is always something "pollinating in NC.

  • bigguy123x Jan 12, 3:24 p.m.

    Why publicize this. Just dont fill and send addresses to the polise.

  • unblankenbelievable Jan 12, 2:57 p.m.

    "War on drugs. Fail"- very well said, and oh so true!!

    Your right, and besides, you can't have a war against an inanimate object. Where do these officials come from, Mars?

  • unblankenbelievable Jan 12, 2:54 p.m.

    Our government isn't to bright, infact their pretty ignorant. Maybe we should stop selling cars so people won't drive drunk or better yet, screen the people before you sell them a car.

  • BigUNCFan Jan 12, 2:51 p.m.

    linspace

    and this system stops the theft you speak of how?

    Thought as much. It is just another waste of money.

  • sunshine1040 Jan 12, 2:51 p.m.

    I was on perscription alegra until it went over the counter for 10 out of 12 months and cleaning my house did not help my alergy as I was alergic to man made scents that are added to most cleaning products and to perfumes. What cleared up my alergys stop taking drugs that may prevent my cancer from returning. So now the cancer has returned and I am back on a regiment of pills and my allergys are increasing again. An addict will find a way to get the drugs they want regardless of the law even if it means forcing someone to go in the drugstore and buy it for them

  • genralwayne Jan 12, 2:48 p.m.

    Victimless? Have you ever seen a meth lab explode and burn? Have you read about the severe bio health hazards that remain after a meth lab has been moved or shut down? There are more than your useless meth heads at risk here.

  • baldy64 Jan 12, 2:43 p.m.

    They will not let anyone under 18 years of age purchase the sudafed (the old version that actually works), so my husband and I had to always get our monthly quota to stock up so we would have enough for our entire family during allergy season. We were allowed 2 (48 tablet) boxes of the Equate brand at Walmart about every 5 or 6 weeks. What if you have a family with several children and only the parents can buy the sudafed? That is where the law abiding citizen runs into trouble getting what they need.

  • ncmickey Jan 12, 2:34 p.m.

    I used to use Actifed as an alegery med. I started taking it when I was a kid and it came as a prescription as an orange liquid. It is the only thing that would work 100% of the time within 20 minutes. Would make my alergies disappear. Used it for years and years. When it was on sale I would stock up. I work in many different peoples houses and whould never know when my alergies whould get me. Had some in my toolbox, some in the glove comp., some in the shop, some at home. It was CHEAP and worked wonders. Actifed stopped making the 'good stuff' and changed to some inaffective ingredent.
    Now Im stuck with an ineffective prescription that costs too much. Cant control the attacks unless i stay medicated 24/7. Used to go days without taking Actifed. Just when I was having an alergy attack.
    Thanks Uncle Sam. 11 days, million dollar system, stopped 2+ kilos. What a waste of resourses. How about getting addicts treatment when you bust them instead of locking them up with other drug dealers?

  • dwntwnboy Jan 12, 2:32 p.m.

    "War on drugs. Fail"- very well said, and oh so true!!

  • yellow_hat Jan 12, 2:25 p.m.

    Prohibition does not work for alcohol, as we clearly learned, or drugs. All it does is raise the price.

    Alcohol prohibition helped kickstart organized crime in this country and made the crooks rich.

    This law will just move production from the small players in the trailer parks and sheds to the big boys - those that do not mind killing those in their way (e.g. like the Mexican gangs that now have a big chunk of the Pot trade). We cannot stop the tons and tons of dope coming into the country - estimates are maybe we get as high as 10%.

    We will never win the war on drugs by attempting to limit supply.

  • linspace Jan 12, 2:19 p.m.

    If people want to check out and fry their brains, more power to them. It is a victimless crime BigUNCFan

    Uhmm.. yeah.. victimless.. until you are the one being robbed at knife or gunpoint for your money for their habit.. are you even remotely aware of the amount of crime these "brainfryers" committ first of all to get their drug money (sudafed still costs) as well as the associated crime while they are high?

  • fred23 Jan 12, 2:06 p.m.

    It is pretty much the same with everything....we had a friend who sold slushies that he mixed up himself, requiring him to purchase bunches of sugar at a time....he had to jump through hoops to convince the govt. he was not making illegal alcohol....but he found a way around it, probably just as the dopers will find away around this new system....which we all paid for, one way or another.....

  • brmyspots Jan 12, 2:06 p.m.

    What this really does is make it difficult for people who are sick with a cold to buy effective medicine.

    They are tracking Sudafed sales closer than they track sales of guns. This is nuts. hp277

    You're exactly right. I purchased a shotgun from a dealer at a gun show a few months ago. 5 minutes I filled out the paperwork, they made a call, they signed the paperwork, I pay and walk away with a new 12-gauge. Honestly it took me longer to walk to the car than it did to buy a gun. I have to prepare myself for the onslaught of ridicule and harassment when I buy pseudephed. Absurd doesn't begin to describe some of our governments ideas about what's good for "us".

  • nascar33 Jan 12, 1:44 p.m.

    Waste of time, drug laws never stop illegal use of drugs.

  • hp277 Jan 12, 1:43 p.m.

    What this really does is make it difficult for people who are sick with a cold to buy effective medicine.

    They are tracking Sudafed sales closer than they track sales of guns. This is nuts.

  • rand321 Jan 12, 1:41 p.m.

    For all the law abiding citizens who wish to buy Sudafed, the new law has created a pain and hindrance for both the consumer and the business owner.

    All we have done is move the drug problem to bigger better armed gangs and created shake and bake labs that can make the drug anyhwere.

    like usual the heavy hand of the state thinks they know what is better for the average citizen.

    We have too much government period!

  • dollibug Jan 12, 1:36 p.m.

    I can NOT believe that there is NOT a better way to TRACK this and find those who are ABUSING it.....just saying....we are such a SMART bunch of people....as the majority of the people put this prez into office.....GOD HELP US....

  • gadgetry Jan 12, 1:31 p.m.

    @jesseramone - I had forgotten that the lye was also an ingredient. And yes, buying 100% is very difficult now, but it used to be available over the counter. Most plumbing drain cleaner is no longer lye, so when I found a place that had it, I bought up all they had on the shelf at one time. When I checked out, they were surprised I had found it on the shelf as it had already been removed from their computer as an available item, but I convinced them to let me buy it anyway.

    Only opened 1x pound - the other 3x are still sealed and will remain that way until needed (as exposure to moisture can weaken it).

  • love2dostuff Jan 12, 1:31 p.m.

    I have a crazy thought. How about if we ask the pharmacies to use some discretion to who they sell this drug? Do they look like an established family person or do they look like they've been sleeping under a rock? What am I saying? That would mean someone's being profiled and heaven knows we can't have that.

  • husk8corn Jan 12, 1:29 p.m.

    Its a rotating circle of people that are buying it for the makers, do not fool yourself into thinking this will solve the meth problem.

  • gsmbaby19 Jan 12, 1:21 p.m.

    "Go see a doctor" LOL

    Except that if we go to get a prescription for and antihistimine that contains sudafed to get around this law, then our insurance won't pay the prescription because it isn't on the formulary. They don't include it on the formulary, because there are OTC options available.

    So, this doesn't hurt the drug companies at all because they either get a little money from the sudafed sales or they get a lot of money from us having to pay full price for prescription medications.

    That said, I take Allegra D about 6 to 9 months out of the year. I am legally deaf in 1 ear due to allergy problems destroying the hearing hairs in my ear and thus, I now MUST take the medicine at the slightest bit of congestion to maintain the hearing in my good ear.

    Despite this, I have only 1 time been denied a purchase and I was purchasing it a day early because I happened to be at the store at the time. If you run out in 30 days, you are taking more than the recommended dosage.

  • brmyspots Jan 12, 1:16 p.m.

    Ha... this is so funny. My first reaction to this story was the same as @smbiz. Most of these were likely legitimate purchases. I feel sorry for families who need it and can't get it or have to pay a doctor tons of money for all family members. This is another example of a law that had good intentions actually introduces more problems. paulej

    Oh, you mean like the endless TSA security measures. My husband has to sign a waiver to buy gunpowder to reload ammo (he's in the Marines in CA). Said it makes him feel like a convict and doing something illegal. I think of these "good intentions" ever time the poor soul flies on a commercial airline to see us and has to be strip searched. And he's required to fly in uniform. Pity this is what we've come to.

  • BigUNCFan Jan 12, 1:16 p.m.

    tran, if your doc is so inflexible he "doesn't even want to discuss a prescription" given the fact that he and you both know the law and the limitation of the law and that a script may be helpful to you in this specific case, then you need to find a new doctor. It is the free market you know. If you are not satisfied with your current results, go look elsewhere.

  • SaltyPigWheeler Jan 12, 1:15 p.m.

    I tried to buy 2 packs at the drug store this week. One because my wife was sick, and #2 for the next person that gets sick. They wouldn't let me purchase both because they said that would exccede my legal limit. I just wonder if my purchase was one that was "questionable." I understand the need to control it but it needs to be an understandable limit.

  • genralwayne Jan 12, 1:15 p.m.

    The law limits individual purchases to 7.2 grams per transaction and a total of 9 grams per 30 Days. Nine grams of Pseudoephedrine HCL by content equals: 46 tablets at 240 mg Pseudoephedrine HCL per tablet, 92 tablets at 120 mg. Pseudoephedrine HCL per tablet, 184 tablets at 60 mg. Pseudoephedrine HCL per tablet, and 367 tablets at 30 mg. Pseudoephedrine HCL per tablet. Assuming two adults in the household, that would be 92 24-hour Claritin D tablets at 240 mg. per household...sufficient for three people to take one tablet every 24 hours for 30 days. If a family needs more than this on a constant basis, I would highly hope to see a doctor involved.

  • cheapskate Jan 12, 1:13 p.m.

    I have lots of allergies as do my children. If your allergies are so far out of control that you need this much sudafed - try CLEANING YOUR HOUSE. True allergy sufferers get rid of carpeting, wash allergenic pillows, etc and avoid trigger places and avoid pets that trigger. Not just stuff yourself full of drugs. And if you tell your doctor that you need THIS MUCH sudafed - they will explore OTHER medications to alleviate your symptoms. Otherwise find a new doctor! Geez.

  • letscare Jan 12, 1:13 p.m.

    My have we ever become a selfish society. Don't do anything to inconvenience me....even if it might help cut down on a drug problem....or maybe reduce the number of people (including innocent children) who are killed in explosions at meth labs. GEEZ!

  • woodsman12169 Jan 12, 1:12 p.m.

    Sudafed is a decongestant - which helps control congestion. It is NOT for allergies. You would use an antihistamine (zyrtec, claritin, etc) for allergies.

    If you **need** pseudoephedrine every single day, then talk to your doctor as others mentioned. There are plenty of decongestants on the market that do the same thing, just can't be altered for street drugs.

    You ought to be thanking your lucky stars that they didn't take it off the market (which is what I would have preferred).
    howdiditgettothis

    Thanks doc…. Maybe if you don’t know about something you should keep your opinion to yourself. I have allergies and take a generic Claritin-D every day. The D is for decongestant so I have to show a driver license 2 a month to buy it. I need the decongestant so I don’t end up with sinus infections ( I did average about 14 sinus infections a year before I had sinus surgery.)
    So yes people need to be able to purchase this drug that why Claritin and Zyrtec both have a version wi

  • jesseramone Jan 12, 1:11 p.m.

    Lye is also a common ingredient in meth (which is pretty scary). Lye is also a staple for plumbers, gardeners, and soap makers. My good friend has a soap making business and has a difficult time buying lye in bulk because the county sheriff when she lives wants to monitor who purchases lye for the same reason as pseudophederine. Making it harder for her to stay in business and making the common man/woman feel like a criminal.

  • piratepeople2 Jan 12, 1:11 p.m.

    if it was your spouse or loved one that was the LEO with a gun aimed at them, I'd bet you'd want them to come home safe!!I know I would! Good job KPD!

  • brmyspots Jan 12, 1:08 p.m.

    You'd think that Mr. Cooper would have someone following public opinion on this story and see that he's doing more harm than good. Hopefully people will remember this at election time. What am I thinking? It would be political suicide for any elected official to not want to completely "making it more difficult for criminals to get the ingredients they need to make meth and easier for law enforcement to find them and shut down their dangerous labs,” Cooper said in a statement.

    All the while making law abiding citizens feel like criminals for buying a legal substance.

  • gadgetry Jan 12, 1:05 p.m.

    A few years ago, my daughter was making biodiesel for her science fair project (fun project) and I made a purchase of methanol (which is tracked much like sudafed). That same weekend, my wife and I both came down with a bad cold and ended up buying sudafed (buying for two), also tracked.

    It would be funny if they tried to tie both of those two purchased together (a case of methanol, and 2x bottles of sudafed) on the same weekend, as both are primary ingredients of methamphetamine.

    Of course, the 4lbs of 100% sodium hydroxide (lye), bought that same weekend, may have given them a funny jump.

    And yes, she won the science fair and my wife and I both got over our colds - neither arrested.. ;-)

  • tran Jan 12, 1:04 p.m.

    I've been to several doctors for sinus infections and allergies over the years. Their treatments are not effective. They've sent me to allergy clinics. I've had all kinds of shots, etc.. It is not practical for me to stay away from allergens. That pretty much leaves controlling the symptoms and now I'm effectively stymied from that.

    I used to think making Sudafed require a prescription would solve the problem. But now, the constant barrage of press coverage about prescription drug abuse has cast a pall over all who take prescription drugs.

    The meth will now be made in Mexico and shipped here. So this law does not solve the problem. It merely rearranges the problem. But it strongly discourages legitimate uses of antihistamines.

  • Alexia Jan 12, 1:00 p.m.

    Ha... this is so funny. My first reaction to this story was the same as @smbiz. Most of these were likely legitimate purchases. I feel sorry for families who need it and can't get it or have to pay a doctor tons of money for all family members. This is another example of a law that had good intentions actually introduces more problems.

  • howdiditgettothis Jan 12, 12:55 p.m.

    Sudafed is a decongestant - which helps control congestion.
    It is NOT for allergies. You would use an antihistamine (zyrtec, claritin, etc) for allergies.

    If you **need** pseudoephedrine every single day, then talk to your doctor as others mentioned. There are plenty of decongestants on the market that do the same thing, just can't be altered for street drugs.

    You ought to be thanking your lucky stars that they didn't take it off the market (which is what I would have preferred).

  • tran Jan 12, 12:49 p.m.

    My doctor will not prescribe Sudafed or Claritin. Like "wanderer's" doctor, he says it's over the counter. So he won't prescribe it. And he really doesn't want to even discuss it. So yes, a doctor CAN give you a prescription for it but many if not most will not.

  • TheBullCity Jan 12, 12:48 p.m.

    Call me a libertarian, but I don't see how the ends justify the means.

  • Scubagirl Jan 12, 12:44 p.m.

    unless one's allergies are year round, which most aren't (and if they are it's probably doctor worthy) you CAN plan ahead and buy your allottment throughout the year so you have sufficient amount to treat you and/or your family. OTC meds have an expiration date several years out so .........

  • luvabigdog Jan 12, 12:43 p.m.

    Thanks for the Dr's advice ChaimanBoard. That works if only one person in the family takes the meds. Running to a Dr all the time your nose runs may be an option for you but it isn't in my family.

    littleminds. Just like bratty children. If you ignore them, they'll go away.

  • brmyspots Jan 12, 12:39 p.m.

    littlemind. Didn't catch that before. Pretty funny.

  • Chairman of the Bored Jan 12, 12:38 p.m.

    @ wanderer.

    FYI- The doctor can give you a prescription for that.

  • Chairman of the Bored Jan 12, 12:36 p.m.

    "I hope you never suffer like some of us from allergies and legitimately need this and can't buy it because 'you fulfilled your allotment'. "

    I do suffer from allergies. If you are needing that much sudafed because you suffer from allergies, you should have a prescription from a doctor to CONTROL your symptoms. Sudafed is only for temporary relief - not a panacea for allergies. It should NOT be taken more than just a couple of days, and most doctors and pharmacists recommend not to give it to younger children. Too much sudafed just kills your heart and can lead to death in children, and it has more side-effects than most drugs.


    I hope if you suffer as bad from allergies as you say you do, you'll see you're doctor for help. You'll get something for your allergies and in the long run, it will probably be cheaper for you.

  • love2dostuff Jan 12, 12:35 p.m.

    daniellittlemind. Funny. Troll? Yes definitely.

    If we stop commenting on his posts he'll go away. We can only hope.

  • 27610-USA Jan 12, 12:32 p.m.

    @ brmyspot. I wouldn't read what daniellittlemind writes as his words carry little weight and are meaningless. Trolling.
    love2dostuff.
    I don't really care what you think. Here is a Quarter and call some who cares.

  • love2dostuff Jan 12, 12:28 p.m.

    @ brmyspot. I wouldn't read what daniellittlemind writes as his words carry little weight and are meaningless. Trolling.

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