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  • woodybeez Jan 11, 2012

    to all of you who talk about the emotionless boy. let me tell you something, my house was broken into and i was not emotionless. i was down right MAD. to say the least. let one start in now if i am at home HE will be dead meat. thank god the republicians passed this law. i am sure the democrats hate it. liberal way of thinking. everyone should have the right to protect their live and their property. those 4 were to do harm.

  • wildcat Jan 11, 2012

    I do not believe the young man should be charge. He was protecting himself and his sister. He had that right. The perpetrator had no business being on the property at all. He was not invited. May all breaking and entering criminals learn from this. People are not playing with you when you decide to enter into their home uninvited.

  • Lightfoot3 Jan 11, 2012

    "remember that everyone does not react the same to trauma." - tcbnashville


    This is SO true! And why I hate it when prosecutors try to use emotional reaction, or the lack of tears, or the seemingly lack of sincerity in court cases. Everyone reacts differently so I think such subjective testimony should be barred.

  • SmokeWagon Jan 11, 2012

    ..."As much as it’s a waste of my time I’ll ONCE AGAIN point out that the kid had a gun and could easily have held the miscreant at bay till the cops came." - fayncmike..."

    Yes...your statement IS (as you say) a "waste of time"....YOU are assuming that the miscreant would make a well adjusted, conscience decision about his OWN health and safety facing a 14 year old kid....after ALREADY demonstrating (by
    breaking and entering) that he had a complete disreguard for the law, the well being of the occupants and the property owners rights....!!

  • tcbnashville Jan 6, 2012

    By the way for all that are commenting on the boy being emotionless during the 911 call....remember that everyone does not react the same to trauma. I have many friends that have this laid back attitude reguardless of what is going on in the world. His calmness probably saved his and his sister's life. And when was the last time many of our children said "yes ma'am" to a person of authority? Praying for this family to get past this, as well as for the family of the deceased. Neither should ever have had to be put in this situation....

  • tcbnashville Jan 6, 2012

    While I respect human life to to fullest degree, if someone were breaking into my home, I would consider that "ill-will" in a second. It is not about the stuff they could take, but that now a days those that commit these crimes don't have any reguard for human life. Guys, teach your teenagers how to use your shotguns if you have them in your homes. Kudos not only to the young man, but to whoever showed him how to use the gun.

  • dmatea012 Jan 5, 2012

    faynmike: Four suspects and one 14 yr.old with a gun. Who knows if all four of them had a gun or not? You must be dreaming to think the 14 yr. old could keep them long enough for the Law Officers to arrive. You should go watch your cartoons insead of writing nonsense in comments. Maybe or maybe not you can understand cartoons. Signed, Drucilla Matea

  • moore1915 Jan 4, 2012

    That is one that we will not have to keep up in the court and jail system. Kudos for the young man of only 14.

  • westernwake1 Jan 4, 2012

    "What do you think those men would have done to them? They could have easily beat them to death."

    Actually in 64% of the home invasion cases between 2008 and 2010 in North Carolina; the invaders execute any innocent unarmed residents found in the home. This statistics set includes cases where the home is not being used for drugs (or other criminal enterprises), the criminal(s) enter the main dwelling (not a garage or outbuilding), and the criminal invaders are armed with a gun while the innocent residents are inside.

    There have been numerous stories in the media demonstrating this over the past few years.

  • SummerVivian Jan 4, 2012

    I am glad that these two teenagers are safe. I don't understand why people are so upset that this teenage boy shot one of the intruders, it was four men breaking into their home, last time I checked people don't break into home to play video games and eat ice cream. What do you think those men would have done to them? They could have easily beat them to death.

  • Billfisher Jan 4, 2012

    "As much as it’s a waste of my time I’ll ONCE AGAIN point out that the kid had a gun and could easily have held the miscreant at bay till the cops came." - fayncmike

    You can't be serious... If you break into a home armed with a weapon you get what you get.

  • gunny462 Jan 4, 2012

    http://hendersondispatch.com/pages/full_story_free/push?article-Suspect+arrested+in+home+invasion+that+led+to+fatal+shooting%20&id=16945750&instance=breakingNews_article

  • gunny462 Jan 4, 2012

    "As much as it’s a waste of my time I’ll ONCE AGAIN point out that the kid had a gun and could easily have held the miscreant at bay till the cops came." - fayncmike

    And once again, READ the article, 1. the perp came AROUND the corner and the kid SAW a gun. 2. The one under arrest is ALREADY awaiting conviction on ANOTHER break in. 3. LEO's are looking for TWO MORE people in connection with this CRIME. 4. The kid was scared not just for his own life BUT HIS SISTER'S

  • Lightfoot3 Jan 4, 2012

    "As much as it’s a waste of my time I’ll ONCE AGAIN point out that the kid had a gun and could easily have held the miscreant at bay till the cops came." - fayncmike


    That's a recipe for disaster. Take some gun and defense courses then get back to us.

  • Lightfoot3 Jan 4, 2012

    "perhaps you might try reading a newspaper......"- haggis basher


    They have stories just like THIS one! And there are tons of cases not reported. You've been given first hand accounts before, but you're blinded by your anti-gun religion.


    "I can tell you there is little actual difference. Peiople are essentially the same worldwide." - haggis basher


    Ridiculous. How many death penalty cases are there in the UK? Much Jesus talk from your politicians? When's the last time your countrymen rose up in civil war? There are vast differences in culture and philosophy even from one region of the U.S. to another. You're blinded by your anti-gun religion.


    "Positive, definitely not." - haggis basher


    If you don't see a kid successfully protecting himself and his sister from harm or possible death from criminals as positive, you've got serious irrational issues.

  • builtfordtough Jan 3, 2012

    For those of you who think the 14 year old should not have shot the intruder-- It is that way of thinking that is going to make the crime rate skyrocket. If more of the outlaws ended up dead, as in this situation, they would think twice before breaking in on someone. That would be the biggest deterent of crimes like this. If you think the intruder should have just been held for law enforcement to arrive and take care of, you are living in a fantasy world. That is no deterent at all. The outlaws know that the law is not going to do anything to stop them. A slap on the wrist and they are back out commiting more crimes and each time a more serious one.

  • RM24 Jan 3, 2012

    Bloodthirsty are people who rape or murder others for no reason!

    Responsible are people who work for there belongings and protect there home!

    Victoms are people who think the police can protect everyone.

    Ignorant are people who think every soul in the world can be saved by a hug!

    Which category do you fall in?

  • warbirdlover Jan 3, 2012

    To the guy whom doubted the fella with the uncle in the 101st during WWII. I know for a fact that my Dad and his Marine buddies, talked and laughed about the Japaneese that they exterinated on several Pacific Islands, such as Peleliu, Siapan, Iwo Jima and Okinawa, and they were not driviling, psyhcos. People react different to different life events. Oh by the way my Dad was a 18 year old kid at the time, and told me he would not trade his time in the Pacific for anything. He also told me that is where he learned to love another man more than his own blood brothers, in other words, no matter their personal background, they had each other back through thick and thin.

  • RM24 Jan 3, 2012

    But I am proud to have helped give him the tools to protect both him and his family.

    Paul Valone President, Grass Roots North Carolina www.GRNC.org
    grncffe

    I thank you as well!

  • westernwake1 Jan 3, 2012

    Paul Valone - Well Stated!

    Thank you for the work Grass Roots North Carolina has done to engineer the passage of the Castle Doctrine in our state.

  • RM24 Jan 3, 2012

    they are bought as playthings (and that includes most hunting) or because people have fallen for the "safety" lie.
    haggis basher

    Playthings? Playthings are Barbie dolls/roller skates ect... No wonder people are being killed handling guns. Some are ignorant enough to think they are playthings!

  • dukefan91 Jan 3, 2012

    First of all let me start off my tell every single one of you that are putting the dispatcher down, you are in the wrong! This women was doing her job and doing what she has been trained to do for 20+ years. By telling the boy to put the gun was for his own safety so when law enforcement got there they wouldn't just seen the boy with the gun and also so the boy would not freak out when he saw law enforcement or even his grandfather he was asking for! I do believe a lot of you all didn't listen to the whole tape or you just wanted to hear want you wanted to because she stayed on the phone the whole time and kept check on him and his sister alone with the where bouts of law enforcement and the children's grandfather. To all of you who are talking all this mess about the dispatcher how about you be put in her shoes for a day and tell me how you would do her job! To the dispatcher you did an amazing job you kept the children calm and as safe as possible thanks for your hard work!

  • grncffe Jan 3, 2012

    Thanks to Stacey Davis of WRAL for her continuing excellent coverage of Castle Doctrine. This depicts exactly why Grass Roots North Carolina engineered passage of Castle Doctrine: The boy believed -- reasonably -- that he and his sister faced imminent death or great bodily harm. In the fog of fractions of a second defending his life, he believed he saw a weapon. Perhaps he did, perhaps he didn't. Until one faces that situation, one has absolutely no right to second guess it.

    But under Castle Doctrine, not only is he protected from criminal prosecution, but also against malicious lawsuits filed by the survivors or the perpetrator.

    It's sad that any teenager would have to face this. But I am proud to have helped give him the tools to protect both him and his family.

    Paul Valone
    President, Grass Roots North Carolina
    www.GRNC.org

  • westernwake1 Jan 3, 2012

    "As much as it’s a waste of my time I’ll ONCE AGAIN point out that the kid had a gun and could easily have held the miscreant at bay till the cops came. If course I do realize that savage bloodthirsty people don’t think that way. For them death is always the first solution." - fayncmike

    I believe that if a criminal breaks into my home and points a pistol at me then the first solution should always be shooting at them first. Any homeowner in this situation would be an fool to attempt to "hold the miscreant at bay". You need to shoot first to save your life; otherwise you will be a dead victim. Any expert who trains people in the use of firearms will tell you this.

    I hope I never have to face this situation but the only reasonable way to deal with a criminal that has broken into your home and coming towards you armed is with lethal force via a gun.

  • duster 340 Jan 3, 2012

    I see alot of comments just can't believe how emotionless the boy was in doing it.
    There people being kill everyday by hit and run drivers ! What about the emotionless ones breaking into the home. I can't belive people feel they know how this young man feels.You should be praying for this young man !

  • westernwake1 Jan 3, 2012

    "Why do bobbies now have special units carrying assault weapons?"

    It was interesting when I worked in Leeds and Manchester this past year for a few weeks that all the Bobbies I saw were armed (I always heard they were not armed). They also drove around the neighborhoods in armored vehicles and video vans regularly. There were also fixed video cameras all over the place filming everything you did. I guess the constant surveillance reduces crime and make it easier to catch criminals after the fact - but it does reduce personal liberty in my opinion.

  • fayncmike Jan 3, 2012

    Sadly there are people that refuse to admit the simple fact that it's quite easy to control a miscreant without killing him or her..fayncmike

    ”Wow..so how would you handle someone that broke into your home....not knowing if they were armed or not...would you give them hug or what? Perhaps maybe you two could converse about the rights of criminals as they are beating or killing you.
    Hunter3”

    As much as it’s a waste of my time I’ll ONCE AGAIN point out that the kid had a gun and could easily have held the miscreant at bay till the cops came. If course I do realize that savage bloodthirsty people don’t think that way. For them death is always the first solution.

  • gunny462 Jan 3, 2012

    "you are 4X likly to be murdered in the US than you are in the UK whilst other crime rates are essentially the same.....guns making you safe is just a myth. haggis basher"

    Myth, prove it. You can't site any where that the U.K has a lower crime rate for population. Why do bobbies now have special units carrying assault weapons?

  • HogMan 1776 Jan 3, 2012

    this young man DID the right thing. the police are reactive not proactive. #1 rule PROTECT FAMILY!!!

  • gunny462 Jan 3, 2012

    "Every other western democracy seems to manage just fine without arming everyone.....and have far lower murder rates.....with other crime rates much the same. Why is that?haggis"

    Myth, name a country with higher gun laws that have lower personal crime per population.

  • ncouterbanks69 Jan 3, 2012

    “Any reasonable individual does not have any sympathy for the criminal in this situation. westernwake1”

    Reasonable people do, bloodthirsty savages do not.

    Sympothy for criminals...WOW. You guys never cease to amaze me. Yes let's forget what these people are capable of they are just shouting out for help. You need help

  • North Carolina Cutie Jan 3, 2012

    One must protect one self.

  • kmanc4s Jan 3, 2012

    Henderson and Vance county have had a rash of home invasions, this is just the latest. There was a group of people arrested back in May where 9 were arrested and charged with 28 armed home invasions and there were 4 people connected with this one. My money says this wasn't their first.

    When is the NAACP going to put their money where their mouth is and start getting on the ground and start helping this community and others like it fix the problems being caused from within?

  • dukefan91 Jan 3, 2012

    Really?

  • reapersfoe Jan 3, 2012

    I believe that the Law Enforcement Officers really needed to know what race the suspects were in order to verify that they were or were not the suspects in question. Racial Profiling?? nomorekoolaid - You may want to research that one. The dispatchers have no powers of arrest, search, and seizure. Therefore they cannot profile period. They can provide the sex, race, height, weight, clothing description, description of ballcap, description of vehicle, description of shoes, etc. Face Facts: The perpitrator forcibly broke into the house, approached an armed resident and met his demise. Not sure how anyone can turn that one around?...ignorance = Bliss?? I am sure the minute they sue the dispatcher, the dispatcher will have some legal counsel and opportunity to take legal action of their own. Then this tragedy will go even further into people's lives, make more press, and continue to fester ill will in people's minds. No good will ever come out of anything like this.

  • CarolinaCakeMob Jan 3, 2012

    We of the Carolina Cake Mob applaud the efforts of this brave young lad, and applaud the State legislature for "getting it right" with the new Castle Law. Criminals & doers of no good beware...

  • haggis basher Jan 3, 2012

    "Liberal lawyers are lining up for the family of the victim. They will say the dispatcher was "racial profiling " when asking the race of the intruders. C'mon WRAL you can post that little comment. TRUE DAT !"

    why would they stop you making a fool of yourself?

  • fayncmike Jan 3, 2012

    “Any reasonable individual does not have any sympathy for the criminal in this situation.
    westernwake1”

    Reasonable people do, bloodthirsty savages do not.

  • fayncmike Jan 3, 2012

    “fayncmike: if you think that everyone getting government assistance in this country is truly needy, you are living with blinders on. You wouldn't believe how many are lying and taking the taxpayer dollars unjustly!
    dae66”

    Please be so good as to quote the post in which I said, “everyone getting government assistance in this country is truly needy,”

  • IBnormal Jan 3, 2012

    (Part three)If you have ascertained that the man you have the drop on is a deliberate intruder into your occupied home (and therefore, by definition, a deranged or vicious enemy); if you are certain that he has a weapon in or at hand; if you and he are in positions where he can shoot or stab you—
    Shoot him. In the back if you have to. And keep shooting until he is unable to shoot back. Massad F Ayoob

  • IBnormal Jan 3, 2012

    (Part Two) He turns. Swiftly and suddenly, he snaps around toward the alarming voice. He turns instinctively and with the weapon in his hand, his tense, adrenalin-filled body exploding into a reflexive response. If he does not pull the trigger automatically as he faces you, it will be the first response that occurs to his hair-trigger nervous system when he sees you.

    You, on the other hand, are jarred by his unexpected reaction. Startled, you hesitate, thrown off your planned course of action. At the instant when you stand between surprise and response, his surprise has already resolved into response.
    And he pulls the trigger first. Massad F Ayoob

  • haggis basher Jan 3, 2012

    "Skewed and made up statistics, that purposely ignores the multitude instances of guns being used (fired or branished) to STOP crime. We've been over this before. "

    so why is most crime levels the same but murder 4x worse? Are American 4x more homicidal than the Brits? Or just 4X more likely to be successful because they use guns and not knives? As for guns being used more often to kill family rather than intruders, perhaps you might try reading a newspaper......

  • IBnormal Jan 3, 2012

    “HELLO!? the kid had a shotgun. I don't suppose you've ever heard of pointing and challenging? No matter what the killers-to-be here might say, it works just fine and no one needs to die”. fayncmike

    (Part 0ne)The proceeding may sound brutal. It is, necessary. The call of the challenge before the draw is a myth based on an Old West code that never existed in real life. Adherence to this precept of fair play has cost the lives of many police officers and law abiding citizens, who perhaps never realized that their antagonist did not follow the code.

    The average American has never witnessed-probably never read a who has complete, official report of a real, armed, confrontation. But he has seen hundreds on the screen. On TV, the one who has the drop on his opponent yells "Hold it right there", and the gunman freezes, then slowly opens his hand to let the weapon fall. But in real life, the criminal does not freeze at the unexpected challenge. Massad F Ayoob

  • anne53ozzy Jan 3, 2012

    The dispatcher did the right thing as the situation was not known to her as to who was coming into the home or what the motive was. I still find it chilling that the boy was so composed after the shooting.

  • haggis basher Jan 3, 2012

    "Don't know if that is true or not, but I do know that the UK and the US are NOT the same kind of countries. Different history, different cultures, different climate, different geology, etc."

    Well since I have lived in both for long periods I can tell you there is little actual difference. Peiople are essentially the same worldwide.

    "Can you admit this incident was a legal"

    Legal? perhaps.....I wasn't there and neither were you.

    "AND positive use of a gun to stop a crime? Can you admit it was a GOOD thing they had a gun?!"

    Positive, definitely not. We have a kid that will likely never get the image of this out of his head and a dead fool whose family will grieve the terrible outcome of a really stupid act.

  • Lightfoot3 Jan 3, 2012

    "so that the boy can maybe (and its a BIG maybe) have saved his life?" - haggis basher


    It's not a "maybe", it's a PROBABLY. This incident is a positive use of a gun to save not one, but two lives, or at least saved them from grave physical harm. If not for the gun and its use, this story would have PROBABLY had a tragic outcome for this boy and his sister.


    Haggis, aren't you glad this boy had a gun to protect his sister and himself? Do you really wish they would have been unarmed and vulnerable to these criminals to satisfy your irrational religion of being anti-gun?

  • anne53ozzy Jan 3, 2012

    It is rather chilling to me how calm this young man sounds and I hope it is a result of shock and not calm at what has happened.

  • aetius476 Jan 3, 2012

    "Of course many people here don't seem to put much value on human life. Perhaps they might if a loved one of theirs was killed by some Yahoo with a gun." fayncmike

    If your loved ones are predators trying to rob, rape, and murder innocent people by invading their homes, than your "value of human life" is suspect already.

    Mike, would you rather these two young people be found dead by the police when they arrived? You don't sound like you place much value on the safety and life of the innocent.

  • haggis basher Jan 3, 2012

    "Needing them for protection doesn't sell many either. Bought all mine for hunting. But serve dual purpose!"

    In this case you have a point because it was a shotgun which may have been used for genuine pest control (but I wouldn't bet on it) but lets not pretend that most guns are bought because people "need" them...they are bought as playthings (and that includes most hunting) or because people have fallen for the "safety" lie.

  • saywhaaaaat Jan 3, 2012

    GOOD JOB!

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