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  • itsmyownopinion Dec 16, 7:56 p.m.

    "Really? Three times and they are still alive? I hope if there is another trial your not on it!"
    annforeveryoung

    You must be an owl, you certainly attack, and for what, because I offered a helpful answer. If you're on it, I hope you have learned the distinct difference between your and you're.

  • bgcoving Dec 16, 7:53 p.m.

    Annforeveryoung, I'm glad someone else out there sees it too. I don't know what is worse, the fact that prosecutors deliberately misbehave to the detriment of the system or the fact that people I read on this forum expect them too, and are willing to tolerate it to satisfy their blood lust and to balm their lack of understanding of what this does to our freedom. What's even worse is when the prosecutors get caught, and something like this happens, whether it's anew trial or an exoneration, the people out here still castigate the defendants as guilty and blame the defense attorneys for understanding and respecting the judicial system more than they do. It's a sad situation.

  • annforeveryoung Dec 16, 7:46 p.m.

    I don't have an exact count, but there have been some. Two men say an owl has attacked them three times outside their Apex office. And they have video to back up their claims.

    Really? Three times and they are still alive? I hope if there is another trial your not on it!

  • itsmyownopinion Dec 16, 7:40 p.m.

    "Are you so narrow minded that you might believe the steps were swept clean of any debris? How many other raptor attacks have been reported in that area?"
    twc

    I don't have an exact count, but there have been some. Two men say an owl has attacked them three times outside their Apex office. And they have video to back up their claims.

    www.wral.com/news/local/story/2357513/

  • annforeveryoung Dec 16, 7:35 p.m.

    bgcoving; The NC defense attorney's association has been fighting for years over the fact that prosecutors routinely withhold exculpatory evidence, coach witnesses, and otherwise circumvent defendant's rights as a matter of practice, if not policy. In a case like this misconduct isn't even an assumption, it's a given.) I have worked in law enforcement for years.. and unfortunately I have to agree with you.. It's a sad but true. However; having said that I only incurred this behavior in Durham NC. I'm sure it's all over and I'm glad I'm retired from it all and wasn't exposed to more of it in my career. My heart goes out to all of those just venturing into the world of local city government careers.

  • bgcoving Dec 16, 7:29 p.m.

    Are you so narrow minded that you might believe the steps were swept clean of any debris? How many other raptor attacks have been reported in that area? -- twc

    Two men were attacked by a juvenile barred owl approximately 18 months ago in Apex. One of them was hit pretty hard and said he felt like he'd been hit with a baseball bat. Maybe you don't remember but a couple of springs ago, a mockingbird terrorized pedestrians on Jones St. right out in front of the legislature and sent one person to the ER with cuts. THAT was just an 8-oz songbird.

    My mind is quite open, particularly when the prosecution claims that a hollow brass blowpoke that would have folded like a soggy ramen noodle inflicted fatal injuries, especially when said blowpoke was found and obviously NOT the murder weapon. I remember you, everyone is guilty, right? Talk about one being born every minute....

  • westernwake1 Dec 16, 7:27 p.m.

    "I think you gave me a clue I had overlooked. I recall there were some leaves stuck to her hair. She was attacked by a tree. I saw something similar in a cartoon once." - twc

    So it was Professor Tree in the Yard with a Stick.

    // This game has endless possbilities.

  • twc Dec 16, 7:21 p.m.

    bgcoving, I think you gave me a clue I had overlooked. I recall there were some leaves stuck to her hair. She was attacked by a tree. I saw something similar in a cartoon once.

  • bgcoving Dec 16, 7:21 p.m.

    There were no feathers at the crimescene. Mike Nifong had very little input if any on the first trial.. It was Jim Hardin and Freda Black that ran that horse and pony show..--annforeveryoung

    There were, apparently, down feathers (tertiaries)in a hank of bloody hair that was sent to the SBI lab, and of course, disclosed to the defense after the trial was over. Someone (I don't know who) has said they were consistent with owl feathers. I for one would like to see them tested, if for no other reason than to discount the hypothesis (testing the null hypothesis). As for whether or not it was Nifong, Black or Hardin running the show is irrelevant. The NC defense attorney's association has been fighting for years over the fact that prosecutors routinely withhold exculpatory evidence, coach witnesses, and otherwise circumvent defendant's rights as a matter of practice, if not policy. In a case like this misconduct isn't even an assumption, it's a given.

  • twc Dec 16, 7:18 p.m.

    "Owl feathers are usually found attached to owls, which are in fact raptors. If you step on one, it's on your shoe. If you fall on one, it might be stuck to your clothing. If the owl feather is in a hank of bloody hair found in the hand of a dead woman with gouges in her skull and no associated skull fracturing or brain tissue trauma associated with blunt force injury, it begs the question of how the dead woman's hair came into contact with the feathers of a raptor. Your argument is invalid."
    bgcoving

    In spite of the made-up story, the feathers could very well have made contact with the hair, the blood, or anything else it came in contact with.

    Are you so narrow minded that you might believe the steps were swept clean of any debris? How many other raptor attacks have been reported in that area?

    The only owl involved in that murder is the one who is trying to hoodwink the people. Wise, maybe, but not smart.

    But, like they say, there is one born every minute!

  • fayncmike Dec 16, 7:13 p.m.

    "Here in America Zelda, we are presumed innocent until PROVEN guilty. If he is found to be "not guilty" this next trial, then in the eyes of the law, he is indeed innocent. I wish Mr. Peterson all the best.
    monca"

    That is NOT how it works here. First comes the rush to judgment, than guilty sans trial and lastly the depraved howling for a state sanctioned murder.

  • warbirdlover Dec 16, 7:07 p.m.

    Monca, you and I don't see eye to eye on a lot od issues, but you are 100% correct. The man didn't get a fair trial the first time, so he is entitled to a 2nd trail. Who knows it might have been a Owl. I had a Mallard Duck come down my chimmy like Santa Claus. Wild birds have been found in some of the dangest places. Owls are birds of prey and will attack people if threatened and scared. I don't know if the man is guilt or innocent because I have'nt heard all the testimony. To many armchair lawyers out there, that know absolutly nothing about the laws of the State & Country.

  • dukiedon45 Dec 16, 7:06 p.m.

    He needs the Casey Anthoney jury. Since no one saw him do it, he walks.

  • annforeveryoung Dec 16, 6:57 p.m.

    Bgcoving; There were no feathers at the crimescene. Mike Nifong had very little input if any on the first trial.. It was Jim Hardin and Freda Black that ran that horse and pony show..

  • bgcoving Dec 16, 6:57 p.m.

    Owl feathers aren't raptors, either. If I step on one or fall on one doesn't mean I was attacked by one. -- twc

    Owl feathers are usually found attached to owls, which are in fact raptors. If you step on one, it's on your shoe. If you fall on one, it might be stuck to your clothing. If the owl feather is in a hank of bloody hair found in the hand of a dead woman with gouges in her skull and no associated skull fracturing or brain tissue trauma associated with blunt force injury, it begs the question of how the dead woman's hair came into contact with the feathers of a raptor. Your argument is invalid.

  • Coretta Scott Thing Dec 16, 6:55 p.m.

    Just because he may not be found guilty a second time doesn't mean he's innocent. Remember OJ Simpson. And there were people in his entourage who didn't support him, for one his wife's daughter. Zelda

    Here in America Zelda, we are presumed innocent until PROVEN guilty. If he is found to be "not guilty" this next trial, then in the eyes of the law, he is indeed innocent. I wish Mr. Peterson all the best.

  • annforeveryoung Dec 16, 6:46 p.m.

    Think of all the Durham PD and other officials that were facing criminal charges for embezzelement , aggravated assault etc... How many have you seen actually do time? If you want to get away with crime work for the City, if you want to get away with murder do it in Durham!

  • vraptor Dec 16, 6:41 p.m.

    So this perp is going to walk because of the corrupt SBI??? Deaver should be in jail.

  • mfarmer1 Dec 16, 6:40 p.m.

    so what can be done about Duane Deaver misleading jurors?

    Is he off Scott free?

  • twc Dec 16, 6:39 p.m.

    "Pigeons aren't raptors. Your argument is invalid."
    bgcoving

    Owl feathers aren't raptors, either. If I step on one or fall on one doesn't mean I was attacked by one.

  • RKBA Dec 16, 6:32 p.m.

    "Pigeons aren't raptors. Your argument is invalid."

    You weren't around for the trial , were you?

  • annforeveryoung Dec 16, 6:20 p.m.

    (seankelly15) Or he can sit in his comfort zone, enjoy life and wait for the state to fold. They don't have the money and they obviously don't have the expertise to try this case again. They would have to move the venue, get a new DA and good luck finding all of the original people involved. Michael is well aware of all of those circumstances and is now sitting in comfort while Kathleen's family are living in pain.

  • usemailinator Dec 16, 6:18 p.m.

    Wonderful justice system we have. If you don't like the outcome the first time, you just keep trying until you get the outcome you want. Seems like on the playground when you have a "do-over" because you didn't like the way it unfolder

  • annforeveryoung Dec 16, 6:13 p.m.

    Shame on the prosecution for going to the SBI, instead of utilizing their own PD personnel who had over 400 cumulative and current blood spatter training. All they saw were the camera's and a "Judicial" opening. The whole thing is just disgusting! My heart goes out to Kathleen's family. Maybe if this goes to trial a second time they will utilize what is right in front of them all though I doubt it. Our DA's office likes a sure thing and this is anything but, if they can't rely on camera's fame and a smoking gun they will plea it out. Mayor Bill Bell... Is it any wonder crime is up in Durham? Criminals with murder charges walking the streets..Why? Whose pockets are getting lined? The list is endless of the senseless murders committed by criminals that should have been behind bars. End that cycle and you will see crime go down.

  • bgcoving Dec 16, 6:12 p.m.

    If she had fell on pigeon droppings would that mean a pigeon did it? -- twc

    Pigeons aren't raptors. Your argument is invalid.

  • cantstandya Dec 16, 6:06 p.m.

    Big Bird is on the run,if seen do not try to apprehend,considered winged and dangerous,call the Wildman to secure his capture.

  • Zelda Dec 16, 6:05 p.m.

    Just because he may not be found guilty a second time doesn't mean he's innocent. Remember OJ Simpson. And there were people in his entourage who didn't support him, for one his wife's daughter.

  • bgcoving Dec 16, 6:03 p.m.

    I hope they actually get around to testing any feathers, providing the SBI hasn't...ooops...destroyed the evidence, as well as all the other evidence the prosecution...ooops...inadvertently withheld during the first trial. Even if the feathers don't come from an owl, the look of total discomfort on the face of the Durham DA's office will be priceless.

    And BTW SeanKelly15, you wanted evidence of 'wholesale misconduct' on the part of the DA's office in the first trial? Five words: Assistant District Attorney Mike Nifong.

  • twc Dec 16, 5:51 p.m.

    It's over, folks. Except for all the talk.

  • twc Dec 16, 5:49 p.m.

    "If you have owl feathers on your body where did they come from except from a owl?
    mrduffin"

    If she had fell on pigeon droppings would that mean a pigeon did it?

  • Coretta Scott Thing Dec 16, 5:47 p.m.

    guess this murderer will get a walk this time and 8 years certainly is not enough for the killing of his wife and possible the lady in Germany. Heavenly

    He is not a murderer. As of NOW, Mr. Peterson is considered INNOCENT until proven guilty. He is out of jail, a judge found plenty of evidence that NC's own science labs LIED for the prosecution. Perhaps when someone in your own family is railroaded through the system by fictional evidence, you might have a smidgen of sympathy for others. His children support him, his extended family support him and many in the general population support him. A fair trial is way past due, Like EIGHT YEARS past due.

  • RKBA Dec 16, 5:46 p.m.

    "...this is AMERICA....and how it works.... "

    Sadly you're right, but not in the way you think.

    Sentence structure. It's your friend.

  • RKBA Dec 16, 5:44 p.m.

    "f you have owl feathers on your body where did they come from except from a owl?"

    Judge Hudson wants you for the new jury!

  • dollibug Dec 16, 5:43 p.m.

    If you have owl feathers on your body where did they come from except from a owl?
    mrduffin

    And I think someone tried to "cover them up"....or did not reveal just how many were found....

  • dollibug Dec 16, 5:42 p.m.

    ++++please don't blame it on an owl this time.....
    tarzappa

    BUT.....there is EVIDENCE that it might have been/could have been an owl attack that was responsible for her death....now you know, if someone can get convicted on a 42 second google search and be convicted of first degree murder...when this was NOT even proved in court that Brad did the search....well....as we all know...there is corruption and cover up everywhere...and especially in the Judicial System....afterall, who exactly is minding the courts? Apparently no one....the good ole boys and girls do whatever they want to do....and can twist and tweak whatever to make it look ok....afterall...this is AMERICA....and how it works....as innocent people can be sent to prison.....and there is actually PROOF of this...

  • mrduffin Dec 16, 5:28 p.m.

    If you have owl feathers on your body where did they come from except from a owl?

  • seankelly15 Dec 16, 5:28 p.m.

    ""I believe we might be able to come to some sort of a resolution that is something short of a trial and put an end to this," Sutton said, declining to elaborate whether a plea deal could be negotiated."

    Mike can plead guilty to 2nd degree murder and serve another 22 years.

  • westernwake1 Dec 16, 5:20 p.m.

    So it's no longer Lt. Owl in the stairwell with a fireplace blowpoke.

  • dontstopnow Dec 16, 5:18 p.m.

    guess this murderer will get a walk this time and 8 years certainly is not enough for the killing of his wife and possible the lady in Germany.

  • tarzappa Dec 16, 4:54 p.m.

    please don't blame it on an owl this time.....

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