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  • peggyharrell Sep 19, 2011

    MANDATORY spay/neuter, FORCE people to be responsible!!! Charge them a large fee for shelter surrender, arrest them for abandonment/neglect............it's too easy for the deadbeats!!!

  • kickchick2000 Sep 19, 2011

    I volunteer at the shelter and I can assure you in the summer months the inside of the shelter is brutal, very hot and very humid. If you step foot into the kennel rooms you will be sweating within minutes. Regardless of if the system was working when installed something isn't working correctly now. I'm not an HVAC person so I do not know if the issue is with the system or with something else. The main concern and point is the extremely high number of sick animals with are being PTS, the heat and high humidity may be contributing.

  • archangel44369 Sep 16, 2011

    To jaygreyam:
    If you read my post, I said that within the last 15 months, the HVAC was newly installed, not just working 15 months ago.
    I take great offense that someone wants to blame my bldg, my HVAC equipment for the ignorant actions of dead-beat pet owners or Wake County policies on animals.
    People...quit looking to the government to be the fix all...Cheers to all of you who adopt and keep your beloved pets, as for the others, do your part and adopt a pet and be responsible, spread the word to your fellow citizen to be proactive and responsible and quit looking to the governemnt to be the "catch all"...Our tax dollars concerning this issue are being well spent.
    Prior to the HVAC upfit, the dog kennels only had heat, now they have both heat and air, and the air is not recirculated like in your home, but a "Once through" setup. Do you realize the cost in energy of heating or cooling the air and then dumping it back outside?

    Be responsible in NC and Wake County.

  • bigboohoo Sep 16, 2011

    ikeyboy it is obvious you are proSPCA but what about all those years they lied to the public claiming they were NO kill when they just were killing in their Garner facility. Yes when they had the Cary, Garner, etc contracts and the animals were being dropped off at the Lost and Found center in Garner not even half of them made it to the nice and shiny building which allowed them to be available for adoption. At least with the county shelter those animals have a chance to be given a new home. So please do not get on here and preach that Wake County Animal Shelter can be compared to the SPCA. The 2010 SPCA took in over 2,685,000 cash!(Found on their filed tax form) In this economy they should be giving away free spays and neuters! I wonder how much in donations the Wake County shelter has been given? I doubt it comes close

  • rescuefan Sep 16, 2011

    "My ex took his dog there and 24 hours or less later...he called them to get his dog back and they had already put her down...either that or they sold or to a dog fighter...either way its wrong.
    akampfer"

    You are right, it was wrong. It was wrong of your ex to take his dog to the shelter. They only are required to hold stray, owner surrenders can be euthanized as soon as they come in the front door and are handed over. So it wasn't the shelter's fault the dog died, it was your ex's fault.

  • backwards Sep 16, 2011

    Show that you care about saving the lives of animals. Don't eat them.

    This is the best time of the year, deer hunting starts....woohoo

  • NCSUalum99 Sep 16, 2011

    'Give the animals away to a loving home. Why charge the high fee?'

    High fee? $95 for an altered and vetted dog is EXTREMELY cheap. Many shelters charge around $30 for a pet with just their basic vaccinations, then it's up to you to get them fixed and vetted.

    This report is heartbreaking but the WCAS does exceptionally well compared to other shelters in the state. It's a very tough job I'm sure and I have lots of respect for the people who can deal with that on a daily basis. Lots of people on this forum are sorely misinformed....what are these "hoops" that everyone keeps talking about? The last time I was there, there was a man who was about to adopt a dog until he found out it was $95, not $45 like he thought. The attendent informed him that only the dogs who were brought in already altered were $45 and he responded with "ok, where are those?". Needless to say if you can't afford the extra $50 you have NO business owning a dog, but the shelter certainly didn't turn him away. I adop

  • JustOneGodLessThanU Sep 16, 2011

    Show that you care about saving the lives of animals. Don't eat them.

  • itsnotmeiswear Sep 16, 2011

    I'm sure some of the increase is due to the economy. I have three large dogs in my home. One is a mutt. The other two are Goldens. The problem is not whether you buy the dog from a breeder or adopt the dog from the shelter. The problem is when someone doesn't consider the long term responsibilities of pet ownership. It's not just your situation today, but where you expect to be 12+ years from now. If you don't have a plan, don't add another life to the mix.

  • Riptide12 Sep 16, 2011

    Safe Haven for Cats has a great spay/neuter program for $75. You get a spay/neuter, rabies shot, distemper shot, nails clipped and ears cleaned. They also accept vouchers. Check them out!

  • ohmygosh Sep 16, 2011

    Is this really too many? What percentage of the cat/dog population does it represent? How does the rate compare to other municipalities? I might argue it is too few are gassed. Stray dogs are a real problem here.

    An increasing rate has a number of possible explanations:
    1) More owners are getting fed up with fido and giving him the boot.
    2) People don't want to adopt what amounts to another's "problem child". Too much time/$$ commitment.
    3) The bleeding hearts here aren't adopting enough.
    4) Owners are not spaying or neutering their pets.
    5) Many people have moved into shared housing due to the depression resulting in too many four legged's under one roof

  • mmtlash Sep 16, 2011

    "Where is Bob Barker when you need him?" -ocguy

    I was thinking the same thing!

  • JustOneGodLessThanU Sep 16, 2011

    Now people here are talking about NOT taking their animals to the shelters which will cause even MORE shelter deaths.

    Face it. If the general public was generally smart enough to handle a dog or cat responsibly, there would be NO euthanasia issue. NO, the general public is NOT able to handle it...to make the responsible decisions...so here we are...killing 250,000 animals every year...just in NC.

  • Ouiser Sep 16, 2011

    too many people think of pets as disposable play things. parents getting a dog for a 5yo then dumping it off at the shelter when little timmy doesn't take care of it. dogs are not a child's toy. or the dog becomes a nusiance because it's crated and ignored most of it's life.

    shelters must and should screen applicants to ensure the animals won't just end up back in the shelter, neglected or dead. so many dog owners just dump the dog in the yard and throw some food on the ground and think this is acceptable or delude themselves into thinking it's better than shelter life...hardly.

  • kittycrusader Sep 16, 2011

    For all you people saying that euthanized animals are sold for pet food: where are you getting your information? The animals put down at shelters are pumped full of barbiturates (the chemicals in the "blue juice") and are not fit for consumption, by humans or animals. I worked at the Wake County shelter and I know for a fact that dog carcasses are thrown straight into the trash (which is sad, I know), and cats are sent to the Vet School for dissections and other research uses.

  • ikeyboy Sep 16, 2011

    warbirdlover: What hoops? Puh-leeze!

  • emerald7575 Sep 16, 2011

    They're like our kids. You got to be kidding! They are dogs and cats, and shouldbe treated as so. They are too many of them now! always running all over other peoples property

  • fatchanceimwrong Sep 16, 2011

    I've had dogs all of my life but don't now because I can't afford one. My 2 dogs remained with my ex when we split and now I struggle to make ends meet most of the time, being child support paying single father. I love dogs and would love to have one but it would cost me a $250 pet deposit where I live plus food, medications and vet bills. I'm responsible enough not to take on something I can't properly care for. I'm sure there are many in my situation, especially given how many are out of work.

    I wish there was a way that the cost of owning and properly caring for a dog would not be as high as it is. If more people could afford it, there would surely be more loving homes available to take them in.

  • ncguy Sep 16, 2011

    Where is Bob Barker when you need him?

  • ikeyboy Sep 16, 2011

    If the SPCA is not worth the time, then you are not making a serious, well thought out decision. It is a good thing that they try to ensure a good home for the animal as well as the people who are adopting. It works both ways. I have seen people become agitated when they had to talk to an adoption counselor and they leave saying all sorts of things that aren't true. As I have said before, if you were denied, there is a strong reason for that decision.

  • lulu69 Sep 16, 2011

    "Its the owners fault that a lot of animals are at the SPCA. - llc1952

    This isn't article isn't about the SPCA. Its about the Wake County Animal Shelter. They are different. Get it straight.

  • lec0257 Sep 16, 2011

    My wife and I have fostered many dogs and cats finding them all great homes. I wish for a couple of things. 1) that more people could foster animals and find them permanent homes and 2) that the state or county governments would sponsor free spay and neuter sometime during the year. It would help cut down on the over population. Although all of the animals we foster are fixed prior to letting them go to another family, many people just can't afford the costs involved.

  • ikeyboy Sep 16, 2011

    timbo10.0: Dogs are worth more than just shoving a bowl in front of them! They need love, too, and give a lot more of it back than a lot of humans do.

  • Ouiser Sep 16, 2011

    'Some people will say anything to push their own agenda.'

    how is pointing out a on going problem pushing their agenda? what agenda? to hopefully save more animals from being euthanized? let me guess, you're a mid-manager somewhere...typical logic.

    the correlation is that the broken HVAC leads to sick animals which leads to more deaths. if the HVAC is in fact broken, why not fix it? just because you say it was functioning 15 months ago, doesn't mean it does now. the management turnover rate is worth looking into.

  • warbirdlover Sep 16, 2011

    I went to get a shelter dog in Moore County, they give me a piece of paper that asked more questions than if I was going to run for president. We have 5 inside dogs 2 outside dogs that we bought. (By the way I live in the Boondocks) They have all been fixed and our part of our family. The SPCA makes people jump through to many hoops. They were even worried about the wild animals. DUH I live in the woods.

  • pippa Sep 16, 2011

    I adopted an english springer spaniel from the WCAS and he has been a loyal friend for 13 years. He has required a lot of vet care these past few years and I am not sure I can make the committment again bc it is so expensive to get vet care. I would take in a few if I could afford them. It also makes me so sad to see guinea pigs for sale in pet stores. There are many of them that also need to be rescued. A lot of people get them and don't realize how much care and socialization they need. I rescued one and she lived 8 years! Used to put her under a laundry basket in the grass in the summer and she would eat the grass and the kids would come pet her.

  • Ouiser Sep 16, 2011

    'Give the animals away to a loving home. Why charge the high fee?'

    how do you think the cost of running the shelter is covered? the cost of food, medicine, shelter, vets, etc.? donations are sparse. i hardly think the shelter is raking in lots of money, the fees are to cover their costs.

  • llc1952 Sep 16, 2011

    I have 4 four legged roomates. 2 cats and 2 dogs. All four came from the Wake County SPCA. They are all like brothers and sisters and are a joy to be with. I wish so much that I had lots of land and money I would take them all. These poor animals have a heart and feelings too. Its the owners fault that a lot of animals are at the SPCA. This is so so sad.

  • davido Sep 16, 2011

    We have been very happy with our shelter dogs and the one we rescued "off the streets" as well. If you are so inclined, go adopt one today, but be prepared for the expenses. Our dog is a poodle-bichon mix and has food allergies. I just paid $400 for meds and the vet bill. ..but he's worth it.

  • danunger Sep 16, 2011

    The poor dogs can thank the useless owners that put them there, maybe we should euthanize them instead.

  • driverkid3 Sep 16, 2011

    There is no way I would pay for a pet from a breeder. My dog is a rescue, and when I got him, I swore that he would not be an outside dog. He is paper trained, and does not go outside this apartment without his leash. He was neutered shortly after I got him. I was told that the previous owner had broken most of his ribs and his tail because "it didn't curl enough". It cost me $20.00. That money has provided me with 11 years of faithful companionship and love. So what if he looks like a mashup between a number of dogs? He is beautiful to me and he loves me whether my hair is combed and teeth in or out. He comforts me when I am not feeling well and sticks to me like glue. Never had a human do that as long as thins dog has.

  • timbo10.0 Sep 16, 2011

    "Pets require far less than humans, and they give more caring and love than what a lot of people do. Friends come and go, but a pet will hang in there through the bad times, with just a pat on the head or ear scratch."

    Yeah, but if resources are limited, I doubt you can possibly make a case of saving a pet over a child. Human relationships require work and are difficult. Because all you have to do to bond with a dog is feed it, doesn't mean you give up on people. You still need to nurture relationships with people.

  • barbstillkickin Sep 16, 2011

    Well they have only a certain amount of space. If they do not put the dogs down where can we keep them. Please adopt as much as you can and help these poor animals. I have two from the shelter now and I have always gotten my dogs from them. SPCA is not worth the time but the shelter volunteers are great. They all care very deeply for the animals. The staff is also great and they all love to see a great pet leave for its new home.

  • wildcat Sep 16, 2011

    Give the animals away to a loving home. Why charge the high fee? Killing the animals is not solving the problem. Why be in the business if you are going to kill them?

  • BigUNCFan Sep 16, 2011

    This is the result of lots of irresponsible people.

  • BaseBallMommy Sep 16, 2011

    Maybe if it was a little easier to adopt an animal then there wouldn't be a problem. It seems it is harder to rescue a dog in need then it is to get a new dog which will cost more money. A lot of people I know tried to rescue a dog but because they didn't have a back yard or for other reasons they weren't allowed to adopt.

  • JustOneGodLessThanU Sep 16, 2011

    The ONLY reason that shelters need to do this is because backwards a people don't spay and neuter. If people did what they were supposed to do...the government would not need to step in.

    NC euthanizes over 250,000 animals every year. Get a grip, people. Show some thought. Read. Educate yourself even just a little bit...and this problem goes away.

  • urtwopid Sep 16, 2011

    The man who runs the shelter causes this... look at how their staff changed around January, and you will see why. I think the "Man" in charge of the shelter should have to be present with every PTS. (Put To Sleep) so he can not make rash decisions like he did when NC State was forced out if the shelter.

  • jollyrogered Sep 16, 2011

    Both of my dogs are shelter dogs, and I wouldnt have it any other way. I love them to pieces. Its breaks my heart and I wish I could take in more, and I do not envy the tough choices the volunteers and management have to make. People need to have their dogs spayed and neutered, people need to realize this is a life that is going to depend on you for probably over a decade, and make an informed decision that even if they have children, or their situation changes, they are going to be able to provide for that dog.

  • IAMAmerican Sep 16, 2011

    My ex took his dog there and 24 hours or less later...he called them to get his dog back and they had already put her down...either that or they sold or to a dog fighter...either way its wrong.
    akampfer

    Why did he take him to the shelter in the first place?...............HIS FAULT! Don't blame the shelter because he's the one who brought the dog in.

  • IAMAmerican Sep 16, 2011

    Animal Shelters, READ THIS: the number 1 threat to most shelter animals being euthanized is due to your stupid adoption rules and red tape. End of story (and unfortunately the end of many sweet animals).
    ctkane

    There's a reason for the red tape, alot of dogs go back and forth in shelters, people have a weak moment and decide "let's get a puppy", then bring them back............SPCA/Wake Animal Shelter wants to make sure you are someone who is going to take care of the animal. The animal is the one losing in this situation.

  • speakup Sep 16, 2011

    Whatthehey - Your comment is a very true and realistic view.

  • storchheim Sep 16, 2011

    I realize that the SPCA and WCAS are not the same, but I'd like to tell about my experience with SPCA.

    I wanted to adopt a certain kitten. Prior to putting him up for adoption, they had treated him for URI, ringworm, ear mites, hernia, and a couple of skin conditions that I can't think of offhand. In addition, he has tiny embryonic membranes over his eyes which cause tiny blind spots directly in front of him, but no other harm. IOW, he was not a great candidate for adoption, considering his age (5 mos, more cat than kitten), past medical problems, and eyes. But rather than shrug and put him down, they nurtured him.

    They faxed his medical records to my vet so she wouldn't have to rely on my faulty memory. With all the care they'd given him so far, including neutering, the fee was still the same. Yes, they put me through hoops, there's no denying that. But they also jumped through hoops for me and the animal.

  • akampfer Sep 16, 2011

    My ex took his dog there and 24 hours or less later...he called them to get his dog back and they had already put her down...either that or they sold or to a dog fighter...either way its wrong.

  • driverkid3 Sep 16, 2011

    Timbo you said "There are limited resources to take care of unwanted pets."

    There are also limited resources to take care of the children that people have and can't afford. There are limited resources all the way around. Pets require far less than humans, and they give more caring and love than what a lot of people do. Friends come and go, but a pet will hang in there through the bad times, with just a pat on the head or ear scratch.

  • catlady Sep 16, 2011

    To the guy who said we should be more concerned about homeless and starving children: Most animal lovers are compassionate in other causes, too, such as children and the needy. My coworkers and I donate money for shoes and food to orphanges, and homeless shelters. I have fed more kids than I can count that were from low income familes (who also loved their pets and needed food for them).

  • Belle1925 Sep 16, 2011

    No Daddyham....the problem is everybody gets away with murder, abuse, and neglect these days whether it is committed upon an animal or child. We live in a very frightening world!

  • Bodhi126 Sep 16, 2011

    "After being practically interrogated, then asked if my garage was "climate controlled" for the few hours that my dog might have to stay in it during errand-running ONLY, I walked away"

    So instead of being responsible and buying a crate for your dog to stay in (INSIDE YOUR AIR CONDITIONED HOME) you'd rather lock them in a garage where they can get into things that could possibly poison or just kill them, it could be too hot and they could sufficate or simply get close enough for brain damamge or heat exhaustion....yeah....you're a homeless pet's dream all right....

  • stupidbrainchild Sep 16, 2011

    Cold hard facts are that the animal shelter is going everything can with limited budget and space. They can't keep taking animals in and stockpilling them up while adoption numbers are very low. If you don't like what they are doing, stop talking about solutions and go make one.

  • gadorman Sep 16, 2011

    BTW, the county was also given the opportunity to gain income for running the shelter based on implementing a dog tag fee. Why didn't they implement this fee? Because the good ol' boys in power didn't want to have to pay $5 a tag, or a flat kennel fee, for their own animals. Maybe it's about time that the dog tag fee is revisited.

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