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  • news4u Sep 9, 2011

    'They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.' -
    Benjamin Franklin

  • mmancuso Sep 9, 2011

    "The ignorant part is allowing one side of a debate get a plate and blocking the other side of the debate. When the government defeated the six amendments they brought this on themselves. The fault is on the government."

    Extactly! Some don't seem to realize how blatantly this violates the First Amendment, which is primarily about protecting us from this type of government action.

  • thefiredog Sep 9, 2011

    When did vanity plates become political speech plates? While I'm against abortion the state should limit them to raising funds for programs at least partially funded by government.

    Archmaker, do work for the lottery commision or the tollbooth authority? Your idea is brillant, especially if we, "do it for the children".

  • Bartmeister Sep 9, 2011

    Gotta love the ACLU. Carrying the torch for the bleeding heart liberals for years. As sad as it is to admit, they have solid ground on this one that actually makes sense........... just puked a little in my mouth........

  • archmaker Sep 9, 2011

    vanity licence plates are for those who apparently don't mind paying higher taxes. i'll stick with the standard 'first in flight' thanks very much.

    its like volunteering to pay more taxes if you can get your 1040 tax forms in wolfpack red or carolina blue.

  • Lead by Example Sep 9, 2011

    “and as for guns laws why would your interpretation of the 2nd amendment trump theirs (ACLU)?” – Haggis Basher

    The U.S. Supreme Court says my interpretation would trump that of the ACLU, remember the cases of “District of Columbia vs Heller” and “McDonald vs Chicago”. The court ruled an opinion that is exactly what I, and most common sense “moderate” Americans, believe regarding “gun-ownership” rights.

    So there are your facts.

  • cartman Sep 9, 2011

    "this is a ignorant law suit. we do not have the money to go to court for this type of rubish. please, judge, throw it out. BUY A BUMPER STICKER"
    too-obvious

    The ignorant part is allowing one side of a debate get a plate and blocking the other side of the debate. When the government defeated the six amendments they brought this on themselves. The fault is on the government.

  • miseem Sep 9, 2011

    Looks like the state legislature needs to think about the meaning of the state motto. Look it up if you don't know it. They seem to think a great deal about the state and federal constitutions, including free speech & limited government intrusion on personal beliefs and legal activities. Where they fall behind is being for laws that actually meet those goals.

  • sunshine1040 Sep 9, 2011

    Throw away the abortion rights plates also. Abortion is legal and it is up to the Mother the Father not sperm donor weather or not abortion is an option . I would rather a woman have an abortion then sell her child to obtain drugs or left with someone that will torture and kill the child slowly.

  • tmh1375 Sep 9, 2011

    Your tax money being "wasted" on this lawsuit is the fault of your state government. They KNEW it would go to court and said they "didn't care". They also knew this subject had already been decided in a very similar case and they will lose this case. This IS NOT ABOUT ABORTION! It's a freedom of speech issue. Why not READ the lawsuit filing? (Now mods, how about actually publishing my comment for once?)

  • DeathRow-IFeelYourPain-NOT Sep 9, 2011

    Food for Thought: There was an episode of House where they had to operate inside of the womb on the baby or embilical cord. Once the mother's womb was opened slightly, the baby's small hand grabbed House's finger. House always refused to call that living being a baby or infant whiule in the womb. He calls the infant a 'thing'. But at that moment, he had to rethink things. Yes, that was a TV show. But that can and does happen in real life. That infant in the womb is a living human being. A murderer deserved to die. An innocent living human does not.

  • too-obvious Sep 9, 2011

    this is a ignorant law suit. we do not have the money to go to court for this type of rubish. please, judge, throw it out.
    BUY A BUMPER STICKER

  • Whatever27 Sep 9, 2011

    Great! More of my tax dollars being wasted on nonsense. Really? Going to court over plates for a car? "Trust women. Respect choice"...well, how about respecting this woman's choice to not want her tax money to be spent supporting/advocating pro-choice via a car plate. Wonder how much this will cost tax payers in court/legal fees...We've got local schools over here falling apart, roads with oodles of pot holes, etc...surely, that money could be better spent. Just sayin'

  • Bartmeister Sep 9, 2011

    Whats wrong with license tags reflecting something about the State itself? First in Flight, Great Smoky Mountains, a favorite college, etc. Before long, this too will be used as an advertising venue for any group out there. Hey, whatta bout a McDonalds tag, or maybe a Ralph Lauren tag?

  • Bartmeister Sep 9, 2011

    I'm not in favor of EITHER tag being issued.

  • bill0 Sep 9, 2011

    I'll never understand the unholy union between the religious right and conservatives.

    Any true conservative would say that the government should not play a roll in supporting a social cause via official government ID - ie a license plate. It shouldn't matter if it is a "pro life" license plate or a "I want Obamacare" drivers license or a "I support free trade" passport. It isn't the proper roll of government.

  • tljcurran Sep 9, 2011

    Pro-Choice is not the opposite of Choose Life. Choose Life IS a choice. If the folks who object to the plate were REALLY Pro-Choice, they would respect that choosing life is a choice. It just happens to not mean what they want it to mean and they don't like anyone to disagree on their take. The opposite of Choose Life is possibly Choose Death but that wouldn't go over too well. Reality never does.

  • warbirdlover Sep 8, 2011

    Can this world please just stop rotating now ,and throw us all out into space so we can start fresh somewhere else.

    Amen, I hear the Crab Nebula is nice this time of year. The gas clouds are in full bloom, just watch out for them pesky Black Holes. They will ruin your day.

  • All the People Sep 8, 2011

    "Why is that? Because we want the children you want to kill to become theologians? What's really remarkable is that there are functional adults in this world who see nothing wrong with murdering infants."-Plenty Coups

    My point was not intended to be an attack on people who oppose abortions instead it was intended to demonstrate the rhetoric that is being used to cast their ideological opponents in a truly repulsive light which I feel is entirely untrue. In fact, I hate the fact that with ever abortion we lose a human being who's ideas we will never be able to hear. However, even though I dislike these realities I also don't like others telling me to live according to their beliefs. While I would never exercise my option to have an abortion, I do not see that as a good reason to not have that option. So with that in mind I do not see myself as someone who supports abortion; rather, I support the notion that on such a personal issue everyone deserves the freedom of choice.

  • EverythingTicksMeOff Sep 8, 2011

    ifcdirector, your statement just demonstrates your problem. What's really remarkable is that there are functional adults in the world who see nothing wrong with forcing a woman to bear a child against her will. That there are functional adults who see nothing wrong with imposing their religious beliefs on others. And on and on and on and on. The right doesn't want government in our lives unless it suits their purpose and then they want the government in the examination room between the doctor and the patient. Hypocrites to the extreme.....

  • Plenty Coups Sep 8, 2011

    "Murderers locked up on Central Prison's death row were exercising "choice" as well."

    People having legal abortions aren't breaking the law and while you may not agree, they aren't "killing" children according to our laws.

  • ifcdirector Sep 8, 2011

    Murderers locked up on Central Prison's death row were exercising "choice" as well.

  • jurydoc Sep 8, 2011

    This situation reminds me of that movie "The American President" where Michael Douglas gives a speech that contains the following:
    "America isn't easy. America is advanced citizenship. You gotta want it bad, 'cause it's gonna put up a fight. It's gonna say "You want free speech? Let's see you acknowledge a man whose words make your blood boil, who's standing center stage and advocating at the top of his lungs that which you would spend a lifetime opposing at the top of yours."

    Gotta take it BOTH ways in a truly free country.

  • Plenty Coups Sep 8, 2011

    "What's really remarkable is that there are functional adults in this world who see nothing wrong with murdering infants."

    You and I may differ and have different opinions on when life begins. Those who think life begins immediately after conception certainly don't have funerals for miscarriages. That's why we have choice and why the courts allow abortions during the first trimester of a pregnancy.
    No one's killing "children" or "infants" as by definition, that comes after birth.

  • ifcdirector Sep 8, 2011

    If pro life supporters get to choose names such as "Choose Death" for pro choice plates, than it seems that it would only be fair that pro choice supporters get to make the pro life plates say "Choose Theocracy".

    Why is that? Because we want the children you want to kill to become theologians? What's really remarkable is that there are functional adults in this world who see nothing wrong with murdering infants.

  • OmegaBaby Sep 8, 2011

    Sprit Warrior Woman: "This state should never have issued that first plate."

    Here here! I don't always agree with you on many topics, but I wholeheartedly agree with you now. Political expressions should NOT be allowed on license plates unless you're willing to open it up to EVERYONE's viewpoints. If you HAVE to express yourselves, use a bumper sticker. Or if you're smart, you'll realize that license plates and bumper stickers have never changed anyone's political beliefs. They've only served to make one side angry at the other side.

  • Plenty Coups Sep 8, 2011

    "Right, defending the Constitution from proper interpretation is more like it."

    "Proper" interpretation is the sole responsibility of the judicial branch according to that same constitution you claim to follow. Because you don't like what they're doing doesnt make it "unconstitutional". The Supreme Court has repeatedly ruled in favor of "equal protection" of the laws. I don't see where government can show favoritism here.

  • snowl Sep 8, 2011

    mmtlash: I agree with your comment posted 5:10PM

    Personally, I would never use any plate or sticker on my car that stated my religious or political views.

  • jdlewis76 Sep 8, 2011

    Some people have way too much time on their hands.

  • GoGreen Sep 8, 2011

    Come on GOLO censors, in the name of true free speech, you need to post my comment. It is true that the republican party believes all abortion is wrong. The WOULD outlaw abortion in the case of a girl being impregnated by her daddy. I know Capital Broadcasting has a conservative bias but refusing to publish my comment just shows the depths you stoop to.

  • canfarce12 Sep 8, 2011

    Can't have one side without the other as it has been said throughout the ages...

  • simracer68 Sep 8, 2011

    "Uh, defending the Constitution is what the ACLU does."

    Right, defending the Constitution from proper interpretation is more like it. Besides, Obama hates the Constitution and wants it repealed - so why even worry about it. Another term and he'll have it ripped up for use as TP in the WH.

  • mmtlash Sep 8, 2011

    some folks here are so caught up in stating whether they are pro life or pro choice that they are ignoring the fact that this isn't about whether you are one or the other but the fact that one was approved to be advertized on a plate while the other was denied...no matter your stance you have to admit that is a bit messed up and in all fairness they should either both be approved or both denied....

  • RB aka Spirit Warrior Woman Sep 8, 2011

    This state should never have issued that first plate.

    They had to know it would cause controversy, a controversy they WON'T win, no matter how far up the court ladder they take it, wasting our tax $$$ as they go.

    Whose idea was this? Who signed off on it?? They should be the ones to pay for rectifying the situation, not the taxpayers of this state.

  • GoGreen Sep 8, 2011

    Deathrow, my plate will read "A women that can make up her own mind without government interference".

  • Alexia Sep 8, 2011

    My question is, "why!?!?!" One can already put a bumper sticker on the car or window sticker that spews out whatever message one wants. What's the point here?

  • GoGreen Sep 8, 2011

    "I am sure glad the ACLU has nothing better to do with their time!"

    Uh, defending the Constitution is what the ACLU does. Thankfully we have them.

  • All the People Sep 8, 2011

    If pro life supporters get to choose names such as "Choose Death" for pro choice plates, than it seems that it would only be fair that pro choice supporters get to make the pro life plates say "Choose Theocracy"

  • DeathRow-IFeelYourPain-NOT Sep 8, 2011

    I'm sure these plates will go over really well. TONS of people will want to proudly display a license plate that reads, "Baby Killer".

  • geosol Sep 8, 2011

    Two thumbs way up for the ACLU protecting free speech and American civil liberties. Two thumbs way down for the NC REPUBLICANS trying to stifle free speech and civil liberties.

  • Myrrdin Sep 8, 2011

    The ACLU representative made their stand quite clear when they said "Our position would be the same if the state had authorized a pro-choice license plate but not an anti-choice alternative."

    If they are really doing this as freedom of speech, they would have said "Pro Life". I have NEVER heard them refer to Pro Choice as "Anti-Life".

  • dontstopnow Sep 8, 2011

    I am sure glad the ACLU has nothing better to do with their time!

  • 00100111 Sep 8, 2011

    IF you're going to do one, you have to allow the other whether you agree with it or not. I would say "We either have free speech or we don't" but in this instance I don't think a license plate should be a political venue. If you want to slap a sticker on your car then fine, but a plate should be for DMV identification, registration, and (ugh) taxation only.

  • cmgv Sep 8, 2011

    The Republican hypocrisy is ASTOUNDING to me!!!

  • gunny462 Sep 8, 2011

    Should have a plate that says "Choose Death" or "I used a screwdriver/coathanger"

  • mmtlash Sep 8, 2011

    the point here is that if you allow one side of the debate to do something (ie advertise their preference on their plates) you should allow the other side the same courtesy. It's not like the pro choice side is promoting something that is illegal. How can you allow pro life on a plate but not pro choice from a legal standpoint?

  • vtfan38 Sep 8, 2011

    OK, people...this article has absolutely NOTHING to do with abortion and whether you are pro-life or pro-choice. For all you people that can't seem to grasp this, the ONLY thing this article is about is the ACLU making sure that if one viewpoint is on a NC license plate, then the other should be as well. Plain and simple. But there is always that one person that has to twist things around and turn this into a pro-choice/pro-life debate which is guaranteed to get people upset (hence 230 comments with more to follow, I'm sure). This easily has to be one of the most controversial subjects ever debated in our country's history. Keep your opinions on abortion to yourself until the appropriate time, place and format presents itself (which is NOT here). Stick to commenting on the article, people! Sheesh...

  • cantstandya Sep 8, 2011

    mep."ACLU is funded by the govt" You might want to check that info not entirley correct if you have information showing otherwise would you please post it.

  • mindcrime Sep 8, 2011

    No principled American could - in good conscience - disagree with the ACLU position here. It doesn't matter what you think about abortion one way or another, this is a fundamental issue of free speech, full-stop. If you oppose a fundamental right like the right to say what you want, no matter how unpopular, then you are NOT in tune with the principles this country was founded on, and that made this country as great as it is. Or should I say "as it was" because we are seriously headed in the wrong direction in so very many ways.

    Less government meddling and interference, more individual freedom and personal responsibility... this is the path to a prosperous, bountiful, beautiful, renewed America. The question is, do we have the collective will to re-embrace those principles before this empire decays and collapses in on itself.

  • mep Sep 8, 2011

    ACLU is funded by the govt... that is just plain sad. But if folks want plates that say they support killing the unborn... go for it! They should not have to sue... but then what purpose would the ACLU have?

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