"That's circumstancial evidence. Are you saying, suddenly, that circumstancial evidence is valid? Catriona"

Circumstantial evidence is valid. In this case it points to Jason Young checking into his hotel, going out for a cigar/laptop cable/whatever, and then picking his receipt up the next morning.

A jury can reasonably infer that he was sleeping in the time between; it would take a pretty big leap to say that he instead spent the time driving to Raleigh to murder his wife without solid proof.

"There are usually camera's facing the main entrance, in the stairwells, the lobby, all external doors and there are usually 2 to 3 external doors, the reception desk, and the cameras facing the money from the back. DontLikeTheSocialistObama

And he was seen returing to hotel on NONE OF THEM. Thank you for making my point. - Catriona"

That indicates a problem for the prosecution.

He picked up the Hotel Invoice which was shoved under the door.

Seeing that the cameras didn't see him leaving the hotel, the security system for all of the cameras much have been down.

Wake up. Physical evidence is not a requirement of ANY criminal trial. Circumstantial evidence is sufficient, and has been used to convict many, many times.movetomaui

umm, maui. Physical evidence is circumstancial evidence.

If we are all 100% honest, I would guess that most rational people think JY murdered his wife.

If it was a "robbery" gone wrong, the killer(s) wouldn't have gone so brutal on Michelle. It's obvious that it was a crime of passion.

THAT BEING SAID... The state has to prove it.

It appears that Jason Young has committed the perfect crime, and is making things very difficult to prove.

There is a veritable MOUNTAIN of purely circumstantial evidence pointing directly at Jason Young. So much of it that it's ludicrous to consider any other options.

I applaud Jason Young, after all, it looks like he's going to get away with murder.

bgcoving - when you add up all of the circumstantial evidence, there's simply so little chance that it wasn't him that only a fool would say he's not guilty. There's no witness or blood, but there simply doesn't have to be. EVERYTHING else points directly to him. IceCreamMan

You know, I bet if the prosecution caled a witness to the stand that testified that someone used cash to purchase a baseball bat at a yard sale the week before the murder, we would read 125 posts that read 'nobody else would have purchased a baseball bat at a yard sale, except JY, he must be guilty.'

Are you telling me that your house has zero unidentifiable fingerprints or DNA from guests, repairmen, delivery people, etc? Catriona

I can tell you for sure that there are many items in my house that have zero additional prints. My wifes jewerly box would be one of them.

"...If it was a "robbery" gone wrong, the killer(s) wouldn't have gone so brutal on Michelle. It's obvious that it was a crime of passion. ..." Cyndistevenson

This is something crime profilers subscribe to and promote and we buy it because it does seem logical that it is personal, but after being reminded of Jason Williford being charged with the brutal murder of Kathy Taft, -- well, I'm no longer so sure. There is no reason to believe that Williford had any personal connection to Kathy Taft.

YES, but I still come back in and the camera sees me as I come back in. And when I go out, I lock my room and use my key to gain entry. Of all the bad luck for this guy to have - to come in the side door propped open with the camera pointing away and not use his key to come back in his room because he had the one door on the whole hotel that did not close properly so he did not need his key anti-Mako II

We all agree that JY left his room and entered back in without using the keycard. Does anyone think that the night desk clerk (the same one who noticed the camera unplugged) would not have noticed the room door was not fully closed twice during the night? Once when he slid the room reciept under the door and once when he hung the paper on the door knob.

If the desk clerk would have noticed the room door was open and the room was empty, that would be some evidence. But he didn't.

**I can tell you for sure that there are many items in my house that have zero additional prints. My wifes jewerly box would be one of them.**

JY could not be ruled out as being the person whose print was on the jewelry box. Again I ask....why would a random killer not leave their finger prints ANYWHERE in the house (by wearing gloves), but suddenly decide to take off their gloves to touch the jewelry box????? That makes no sense at all. Just face it people - that was JY's finger print.

**You know, I bet if the prosecution caled a witness to the stand that testified that someone used cash to purchase a baseball bat at a yard sale the week before the murder, we would read 125 posts that read 'nobody else would have purchased a baseball bat at a yard sale, except JY, he must be guilty.'**

That doesn't even make sense.

He's not seen, but he got his receipt the next day which means he was there.fromageball

Question. If the rock wsa removed from the door by the clerk in the middle of the night, how would have JY gotten back into the building??

I believe a couple of other things happened...first the child asked someone (most likely her aunt) "what's the matter with Mommy"...to which she receive the an answer appropriate for a 2 year old "Some bad person hurt Mommy"...and the child processed all this info just like a 2 year old "Mommy has booboos" affirmativediversity

And you reached that conclusion...how? There's no evidence of that. Is that speculation on your part? Catriona

Speculation!! Speculation!! ha ha ha

That is what the entire prosecution's case is base on...

JY could not be ruled out as being the person whose print was on the jewelry box. Again I ask....why would a random killer not leave their finger prints ANYWHERE in the house (by wearing gloves), but suddenly decide to take off their gloves to touch the jewelry box????? That makes no sense at all. Just face it people - that was JY's finger print. movetomaui

You are right, that was JY's fingerprint on a jewerly box in his own bedroom. That's the casebreaker. JY was there and touched the box that night. You figured it out!!! Holy cow, he must be guilty...

@Chill: Does anyone think that the night desk clerk (the same one who noticed the camera unplugged) would not have noticed the room door was not fully closed twice during the night? Once when he slid the room reciept under the door and once when he hung the paper on the door knob."

Good point! Didn't even think about that one...And I also personally think that if Cassidy was able to fully articulate what she did on the weekends and with whom to her teachers on Mondays, she would have called the other doll "daddy"...just sayin.

**This is something crime profilers subscribe to and promote and we buy it because it does seem logical that it is personal, but after being reminded of Jason Williford being charged with the brutal murder of Kathy Taft,**

That case is different in 2 ways. First, Jason Williford raped Taft before beating. Second, he didn't beat her 30+ times in the back of the head after doing internet searches of "blunt force head trauma," "anatomy of a knock out," and "posterior parietal region (back of the head)."

**Question. If the rock wsa removed from the door by the clerk in the middle of the night, how would have JY gotten back into the building??**

He probably waited just outside the door until someone exited, then grab the door before it shuts and latches. Pretty easy to do actually.

"Question. If the rock wsa removed from the door by the clerk in the middle of the night, how would have JY gotten back into the building?? -Chill Out

---- Seriously! Their lame theories don't even connect.

++Definitely not a credible witness. DontLikeTheSocialistObama++

if there ever was such a thing as a "credible witness" to begin with.

"...If it was a "robbery" gone wrong, the killer(s) wouldn't have gone so brutal on Michelle. It's obvious that it was a crime of passion. ..." Cyndistevenson ---------

There are no shortage of robberies that include brutal attacks (and death as a result). I consider this killing a blitz attack, which requires uncontrolled rage. The signature aspects of the crime do not match a personality such as Jason Young.

++ And he was seen returing to hotel on NONE OF THEM. Thank you for making my point. Catriona++

what was your point? that he had an invisibility cloak that he used to go get his receipt?

"Question. If the rock wsa removed from the door by the clerk in the middle of the night, how would have JY gotten back into the building?? Chill Out"

It seems like other cameras must not have been working since JY isn't seen at any other times, including breakfast or getting his receipt, other than the ones shown. Or maybe they just didn't go through all of the other camera footage.

The investigation has too many holes.

++++Speculation!! Speculation!! ha ha ha

That is what the entire prosecution's case is base on... Chill Out

As we all know...there does NOT have to be any EVIDENCE presented and PROVED in court to allow jurors to find an accused person GUILTY..."illusions, gossip and thoughts" can be presented and taken into consideration...as some of us watched in the spring of 2010...http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-736024 this link can be viewed and the trial which was shared here shouts volumes about what took place.

++He probably waited just outside the door until someone exited, then grab the door before it shuts and latches. Pretty easy to do actually. movetomaui++

no doubt using his invisibility cloak so as not to be seen by the cameras

The signature aspects of the crime do not match a personality such as Jason Young. dogwonder

What aspects of the crime do not match? He was violent towards other gf's previously. He said in an email (when he was angry) that he could kill her. I think just the opposite - the manner of the killing shows it is far more likely it was him than just some random stranger off the street.

He probably waited just outside the door until someone exited, then grab the door before it shuts and latches. Pretty easy to do actually. movetomaui

As highly publicized as this is, wouldn't the person allowing the tailgating have come forth and say someone did do this while he opened the door. Wouldn't necessarily have to identify Jason, just that someone followed him in through a door, at that hour of the morning.

Question: why is the state waisting time showing video of things that Jason admits to? I don't understand the point of this. It's like they're proving the defense's case. The defense says he got gas gas at the handy hugo and then the state shows a video of it. As if to say, "yep, he did what he said he did." In fact, most of the witnesses that the state has put up there have done nothing but corroborate the very things Jason said he did!! Getting gas, searching ebay, leaving papers on the printer, eating at Cr. Barrell, checking into the hampton. Really, that's all they've proven. And he's admitted to all this!!

what was your point? that he had an invisibility cloak that he used to go get his receipt? -- abylelab -BT-

Perhaps he apparated back to Raleigh, then back to his hotel...But if that's the case, then why not simply "Avada Kedavra!" and be done with it?

the current testimony is very telling about the prosecution case. It is very hard to avoid cameras somewhere and they have his movements down pretty well. Why no video from the convenience store, gas station in King NC? There has been some doubt whether there were or were not cameras there. Of course that building is now torn down (convenient to the prosecution). No newspaper guy testimony (also convenient) No video of JY doing anything at the hotel other than what he said he was doing. It is the "missing" components of the theory that render it unbelieveable.

**++He probably waited just outside the door until someone exited, then grab the door before it shuts and latches. Pretty easy to do actually. movetomaui++

no doubt using his invisibility cloak so as not to be seen by the cameras**

Where is the evidence he got the receipt from inside his room?

oh yea.... I forgot to mention....GUILTY!!!!!!!!!

So, Jason Young checks in around 11:00, and the camera gets turned toward the ceiling around 11:20. He is seen leaving the hotel in different clothes around 12:00. His hotel card is only swiped one time. The clothes and shoes are missing. This is a hard one to figure out....

++++Perhaps he apparated back to Raleigh, then back to his hotel...But if that's the case, then why not simply "Avada Kedavra!" and be done with it? bgcoving

Abracadabra or Hocus Pocus....perhaps he has magical powers...and this explains it ALL....interesting....this might be just as "believable" as some of the "things" which have been presented....

Question: why is the state waisting time showing video of things that Jason admits to?...In fact, most of the witnesses that the state has put up there have done nothing but corroborate the very things Jason said he did!! Getting gas, searching ebay, leaving papers on the printer, eating at Cr. Barrell, checking into the hampton. Really, that's all they've proven. And he's admitted to all this!!

Why do you think he waited so long to tell his story? He waited so he could make his story fit the facts, not the other way around!

As highly publicized as this is, wouldn't the person allowing the tailgating have come forth and say someone did do this while he opened the door. Wouldn't necessarily have to identify Jason, just that someone followed him in through a door, at that hour of the morning. -- annieaamrm

You would think so, and given how much they love unprovable theories, finding one person in that hotel who could say, "Yes, I seem to remember letting someone in as I was putting my luggage in the car" would be a slam dunk...But they would have to have spent the time and money to track down all 200 or so guests and question them. Much better to leave it as a theory. It's cheaper. Just add a dollop of gullibility on the jury and.....

++Where is the evidence he got the receipt from inside his room? movetomaui++

so busy "seeing" that you keep forgetting key pieces of evidence? the hotel manager testified that he put the receipt under the door into jy's room. police testified that it was recovered from jy's vehicle.

i believe that "neener neener" applies here

There has been some doubt whether there were or were not cameras there. Of course that building is now torn down (convenient to the prosecution). -- jackcdneh1017

I've bought gas a just about every 4 Brothers in that area (including King) and they all have (or had) interior surveillance cameras since at least 1998. Of course, the magical thinking is that JY drove up and down 40 and US52 looking specifically for that one station where the cameras weren't working. In this theory, the managers at the station post big signs on the doors that say "Video Surveillance Systems Inoperative Here", and that's how he knew. They will also produce a computer expert who will testify that JY did a Google search for "gas stations with inoperative surveillance cameras -- I-40 & US 52". You keep forgetting that we are dealing with a criminal mastermind.

So, Jason Young checks in around 11:00, and the camera gets turned toward the ceiling around 11:20. He is seen leaving the hotel in different clothes around 12:00. His hotel card is only swiped one time. The clothes and shoes are missing. This is a hard one to figure out.... yep

Yep.... some of the circumstances don't look good for JY

What aspects of the crime do not match? He was violent towards other gf's previously. - anti-MakoII ----

Is it wise to favor one witness (ex-girlfriend from years back) over all the rest of the prosecution witnesses (friends and family of the victim)? None of the more recent friends and inlaws claimed that Jason displayed violent or dark behavior. This includes Michelle's mother who seemed privy to everything that went on in the relationship. The rage required to bash someone's head in (and numerous times) does not develop overnight. There are signs in behavior along the way that usually start during childhood. One witness describing a wrestling match (inwhich she ended with a headlock maneuver on Jason) doesn't meet the mark here.

The court reporter needs a Red Bull..

One of the hotel workers or the police testified that Jason got the receipt from under his door.

Camera unplugged at 11:20pm Nov2,maintenance plugs the camera back at 5:50am Nov3 and then 6:34am still shots show camera is pointing toward the ceiling and JY only swipes of room key in hotel once upon entering room,hence, he was never ever seen in any other video at the hotel other than the front desk. Coincidence? Not a chance, he was trying to establish his alibi and the perfect crime. An innocent man that finds his wife has been brutually murdered does not lawyer JY cannot produce shirt/shoes,

You keep forgetting that we are dealing with a criminal mastermind. bgcoving

The question thus becomes who is the real criminal mastermind? Jason Young or the Wake County prosecutors?

Really??? Come on!! Maybe the Hush Puppy guy can solve this murder... go ahead... tender him an "expert" witness in shoes. Maybe he has some opinions on the doll house people's shoes too =-)

-Camera unplugged at 11:20pm Nov2 -maintenance plugs camera back in at 5:50am Nov3 -6:34am still shots show camera is pointing toward the ceiling -JY only swipes of room key in hotel once upon checking and was never ever seen in any other video at the hotel other than the front desk upon checking in 11:19 then at 11:59 with a different shirt. -Daughter found is shockingly clean unharmed in a very bloody crime scene -He volunteers and specifically states exactly where he is going to eat and lodge at that night -Shirt he changed into and is seen in hotel at 11:59 pm is lost and so are his shoes. Lawyered up within hours his wife being brutally murdered, never asked what/how, etc Coincidences? Normal?. . . Not a chance

****Yep.... some of the circumstances don't look good for JY

-Camera unplugged at 11:20pm Nov2

-maintenance plugs camera back in at 5:50am Nov3

-6:34am still shots show camera is pointing toward the ceiling

-JY only swipes of room key in hotel once upon checking and was never ever seen in any other video at the hotel other than the front desk upon checking in 11:19 then at 11:59 with a different shirt.

-Daughter found is shockingly clean unharmed in a very bloody crime scene

-He volunteers and specifically states exactly where he is going to eat and lodge at that night

-Shirt he changed into and is seen in hotel at 11:59 pm is lost and so are his shoes.

-JY lawyered up within hours his wife being brutally murdered, never asked what/how, etc

Coincidences? Normal?. . . Not a chance!

An innocent man that finds his wife has been brutually murdered does not lawyer JY cannot produce shirt/shoes, -- icesee

It's up to the state to produce the clothes, not the defense. A criminal suspect has every right to seek legal counsel and protection, especially in what is becoming an increasingly antagonistic police state.

**You keep forgetting that we are dealing with a criminal mastermind. bgcoving

The question thus becomes who is the real criminal mastermind? Jason Young or the Wake County prosecutors?**

Jason Young

++++ Lawyered up within hours his wife being brutally murdered, never asked what/how, etc Coincidences? Normal?. . . Not a chance

and JY fell asleep in mommys lap on the way back to Raleigh. What man falls asleep upon hearing your wife has been brutally murdered, especially after allegedly sleeping all night at the Hampton. The urgency to get in touch with his sister in law and mommy the next day, then NOT returning his sister in laws call that afternoon. He doesnt speak to anyone until he gets to his mommys house.

**As highly publicized as this is, wouldn't the person allowing the tailgating have come forth and say someone did do this while he opened the door.**

Highly publicized in Wake County, yes. Outside the area, not so much. If the person lived in another state and was just passing through, they very likely have never heard of JY or this case.

"****Yep.... some of the circumstances don't look good for JY

-Camera unplugged at 11:20pm Nov2

-maintenance plugs camera back in at 5:50am Nov3

-6:34am still shots show camera is pointing toward the ceiling

-JY only swipes of room key in hotel once upon checking and was never ever seen in any other video at the hotel other than the front desk upon checking in 11:19 then at 11:59 with a different shirt.

-Daughter found is shockingly clean unharmed in a very bloody crime scene

-He volunteers and specifically states exactly where he is going to eat and lodge at that night

-Shirt he changed into and is seen in hotel at 11:59 pm is lost and so are his shoes.

-JY lawyered up within hours his wife being brutally murdered, never asked what/how, etc

Coincidences? Normal?. . . Not a chance! icesee"

You forgot to explain how he got the hotel receipt that was shoved under his door during the early morning hours that the LEO's later found in his car.

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