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Raleigh leaders plan to reduce traffic in Crabtree area

Posted July 13, 2013

— As traffic around Crabtree Valley Mall continues to worsen, Raleigh city leaders are working on a plan to reduce congestion in the area. 

The Raleigh City Council will hold a meeting Tuesday to discuss the plan that would limit retail developments in the area. 

"Typically retail is the biggest generator for traffic and now the council has put on its agenda an amendment to our plan limit the amount of retail in the Crabtree area as a way in the short term to address the traffic problems," said planning director Mitchell Silver.

Other solutions have been suggested, such as building a flyover, or creating a road that connects I-440 and Crabtree Valley Mall directly. City leaders say these projects would be too costly, with estimated project costs at $100 million. 

Nearly 8,500 cars travel the stretch of Glenwood Avenue in front of the mall during the morning rush hour and more than 10,000 cars during the evening peak period. 

Mike Ross drives through the area frequently and says that traveling just a few miles takes too long. 

"To get there it's sometimes 20, 30 minutes sometimes, especially if it's rush hour, it's crazy," Ross said. 

Silver says the city identified this area as a growth center back in 2009 and traffic is estimated to grow by as much as 70 percent over the next 20 years.

"Because of the mall, because of the beltline, because of 70, Glenwood Avenue is a heavy traffic area," Silver said. 

Short term solutions such as limiting retail developments in the area will help control the traffic flow.

"It is like placing a band aid on something that needs stitches," Ross said. 

 

 

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  • Bill Brasky Jul 16, 4:44 p.m.

    I don't agree with people saying Crabtree Mall is in too busy of a location. Yes, the flooding issue should be fixed, but all across the country there are malls in more urban areas like Houston's Galleria which is in downtown, or Chicago's Water Tower Place in downtown. In fact malls are always located at or near a major highways or urban areas, otherwise they wouldn't be as successful. Build the infrastructure and the future of Crabtree will go smoothly.

  • Bill Brasky Jul 16, 4:29 p.m.

    "The liberal Democrats in Raleigh want dense development all over Raleigh to curb sprawl yet they are complaining about dense development around Crabtree Valley and the high traffic volumes that come with dense development."

    You need to read the article again. They said a temporary solution would be limiting retail development until the flyover can be built.

  • whatelseisnew Jul 16, 3:39 p.m.

    "Yeah, I know the merchants would scream bloody murder, but folks, those merchants are making money off of the use of the public roads. They should pay their share of the pain."

    They are paying tons of taxes, plus providing a lot of jobs, not just for the people working there, but for all the suppliers that bring in goods to the retailers and restaurants. That mall should not be in that location. Building stuff in the bottom of a bowl next to a creek is pretty STUPID. Putting in the entrance and exits to 440 adds enormous traffic volume. People transit that way to go to the fair grounds and on and on and on. Even without the mall there would be a very high volume of traffic. I simply avoid it as much as possible. I go through there maybe four times a year and I never go to that mall.

  • whatelseisnew Jul 16, 3:34 p.m.

    Sorry guys, the horse is out of the barn unless you are planning on closing down most of the mall in that bowl that fills with water. I avoid that area, and besides, a lot of the traffic is transiting that area, so even if you actually did close the mall, the volume of traffic would not lessen very much. I have not been to the mall in several years, but I have gone through there on my way to other places. HOw about, turn it into a dump site. Once it is full pave over top.

  • ConservativeVoter Jul 16, 12:49 p.m.

    I'm confused.

    The liberal Democrats in Raleigh want dense development all over Raleigh to curb sprawl yet they are complaining about dense development around Crabtree Valley and the high traffic volumes that come with dense development.

    Such hypocrites.

  • btneast Jul 16, 12:45 p.m.

    Yeah, I know the merchants would scream bloody murder, but folks, those merchants are making money off of the use of the public roads. They should pay their share of the pain.

    They do....it's called taxes. All merchants in all towns make money off the use of public roads. The merchants, especially Crabtree Mall, contribute a healthy tax revenue stream for the city.

  • cynda-ur-way Jul 16, 10:39 a.m.

    I agree with the post about the flyover. There needs to be some bypass built that divides the people going to the mall and surrounding retail from the cars going to durham,creedmoor etc..I think triangle town centre did a good job on easy access to the mall without too much congestion on the tract of capital blvd it sets off of.

  • DawgDue Jul 15, 5:59 p.m.

    Just my opinion, a flyover would be the most logical way to ease the congestion. You have dedicated lanes on the ground for Crabtree access. Then a flyover starting just inside the beltline on Glenwood with Beltline connections that would carry thru traffic to the other side of the Glenwood/Creedmoor intersection (vise versa, going the other way).

    Long term, this is about the only way you're going to solve the situation.

  • Bendal1 Jul 15, 3:24 p.m.

    Those traffic volumes sound way, way too low. 10,000 cars in one hour can be accomodated with three lanes each direction with little trouble.

  • lec02572 Jul 15, 1:50 p.m.

    Too late, the retail is already there. They have been dealing with this problem since Crabtree Mall opened in the 70's and it has only gotten wrose over the years.

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