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Raleigh City Council opposes concealed handgun bill

Posted April 19, 2011

Pro-gun measures moving through legislature

— The Raleigh City Council unanimously approved a resolution Tuesday to oppose a bill before the General Assembly that would allow people with permits to carry concealed handguns into public parks and restaurants where alcohol is served.

The state House voted in favor of House Bill 111 last month. It is now awaiting a vote in the Senate.

Raleigh city leaders said they wanted to be on the record with their opposition to the bill, which would take effect in December if it becomes law.

The bill would uphold current state law, which forbids anyone from consuming alcohol if they are carrying a concealed, permitted weapon.


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  • Glock Ranger Apr 22, 2011

    It's allright. I wouldn't want someone to think they could openly carry a firearm into a place where no firearms are allowed. If you see a sign that bans concealed carry, it probably means no carry.

  • whatdidyouexpect Apr 21, 2011

    Sorry Glock23, and thanks Glock Ranger for the info. My eyes must be going. It is very clear, I just searched the wrong GS #. Thanks again, because I did what to read it.

  • Glock23 Apr 20, 2011

    Very clear to me and other "wahtdidyouexpect" The statute states, "It shall be unlawful for any person to carry ANY GUN gun, rifle, or pistol into any assembly where a fee has been charged for admission thereto, or into any establishment in which ALCOHOLIC BEVERGAES are sold and consumed." It makes no difference whther you are OC or CC, it is illegal by statute.

    It is also listed in what we call the NC Flyer on Open Carry Gun Rights in NC. www.opencarry.com >>> State Stories >>> North Carolina.

    Thank you Glock Ranger

  • Glock Ranger Apr 20, 2011

    Maybe you'd better read this one, again:

    § 14‑269.3. Carrying weapons into assemblies and establishments where alcoholic beverages are sold and consumed.

    (a) It shall be unlawful for any person to carry any gun, rifle, or pistol into any assembly where a fee has been charged for admission thereto, or into any establishment in which alcoholic beverages are sold and consumed. Any person violating the provisions of this section shall be guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor.

    (b) This section shall not apply to the following:

    (1) A person exempted from the provisions of G.S. 14‑269;

    (2) The owner or lessee of the premises or business establishment;

    (3) A person participating in the event, if he is carrying a gun, rifle, or pistol with the permission of the owner, lessee, or person or organization sponsoring the event; and

    (4) A person registered or hired as a security guard by the owner, lessee, or person or organization sponsoring the even

  • Dragon21 Apr 20, 2011

    DizzyDaphnee- Out of respect for your opinion, i would be sure to not use my gun to protect you if the cirumstances called for it.

    You are talking about a future you know nothing about, so you think every place you go into, there wont be a disgruntled employee shooting up the place, or unhappy patron? I sure as heck dont know my future, and i would much rather be able to protect my family and myself if it came down to it.

  • skinnygranny Apr 20, 2011

    HEY PEOPLE I really don't care what "the law" is. The right to self defense is a God given right, not a privilege that the government lets you use subject to their conditions. Every person has the right to prevent themselves from being murdered, raped, etc.

    God knows we can't count the times that a victim dialed 9-1-1 and the cops showed up half an hour later or not at all.

    Until the government signs a contract with me accepting liability and responsibility for my safety, I'm carry mine when and where I want. If I get caught, I'll pay the fine, buy another one, and continue to carry for the defense of my life and limb.

    Just a suggestion, but Maybe RALEIGH should spend more time chasing VIOLENT CRIMINALS instead of chasing people who are law abiding victims. If the Raleigh police DID THEIR JOB then I wouldn't have to do their job for them.

  • whatdidyouexpect Apr 20, 2011

    Glock 23 - wrong NCGS #. I never could find anything that states you could not carry openly if consuming. I've read the NC gun laws many, many times. If you know the GS #, I would like to read it. P.S. I don't drink, but I do carry and just trying to be informed.

  • Glock Ranger Apr 20, 2011

    One last comment from an instructor:

    NC does not give anyone the right to shoot anyone else.

    However, NC does make allowances for the JUSTIFIED use of deadly force:

    A citizen is legally justified in using deadly force against another if, and only if:

    The citizen actually believes deadly force is necessary to prevent an imminent threat of death, great bodily harm, or sexual assault


    The facts and circumstances prompting that belief would cause a person of ordinary firmness to believe deadly force was necessary to prevent an imminent threat of death, great bodily harm, or sexual assault,


    The citizen using deadly force was not an instigator or aggressor, who voluntarily provoked, entered, or continued the conflict leading to deadly force,


    The force used was not excessive – greater than reasonably needed to overcome the threat posed by a hostile aggressor

  • whatdidyouexpect Apr 20, 2011

    Taxman - I agree with you. Criminal = no gun. Gun laws have always been written for law abiding citizens. I've always said "it's illegal to shoot or threaten someone for no reason with a gun", therefore, most gun laws are not needed. Do shooters ever get charged with "carry a concealed weapon" if they used it? Usually it's "assault with a deadly weapon" or murder charges.

  • 00100111 Apr 20, 2011

    Why don't they just pass a law that says its illegal for a felon to possess a firearm? Oh wait... there's already that law, and it hasn't stopped any of them from doing it.