Raleigh, N.C. — The state House gave tentative approval Wednesday to legislation blocking the expansion of Medicaid and the development of an online health insurance exchange under the federal Affordable Care Act.
The House voted 75-39 for Senate Bill 4, and a final vote is expected Thursday. After earlier expressing reservations about the bill, Gov. Pat McCrory said Tuesday that the state Medicaid system is too troubled to expand, so he plans to sign the bill into law.
The Medicaid expansion would cover about 500,000 low-income adults in North Carolina, providing them the insurance coverage required when the Affordable Care Act is fully implemented next year. The federal government would pick up the full cost of the expansion for the first three years and the bulk of the costs for several years after that.
"When you get this free money, there's a hook," said Rep. Justin Burr, R-Stanly, predicting federal regulations would eventually cost North Carolina.
"This is one of the problems I have with 'Obamacare' or the Affordable Care Act," said Rep. Nelson Dollar, R-Wake. "There's just a lot of promises that down the road there are no answers for."
Rep. Jeff Collins, R-Franklin, compared the government's offer to pay for expanding Medicaid to "playing with Monopoly money," saying continued spending and borrowing will only aggravate the nation's debt crisis.
"It's coming from your children and grandchildren, if you have any, and it's coming from mine. That's where this money is coming from," Collins said.
Democrats chided Republicans, who last week approved a bill to slash jobless benefits as part of an overhaul of the state unemployment system, for again knocking a safety net out from underneath the poor.
"No one put you in office to say you don’t like something,“ said Marcus Brandon, D-Guilford, who accused Republicans of using demagoguery against the Affordable Care Act. “That’s not governing."
Rep. Deborah Ross, D-Wake, said "fear and loathing" was driving the bill.
"It's fear of something you can't control, and I understand that. But even more than that, it's loathing of the fact that we have the Affordable Care Act in the first place, and that is the saddest thing," Ross said.
Advocates said expanding Medicaid would bring a projected $15 billion into the state’s economy, creating an estimated 25,000 jobs in health care and related sectors by 2016.
"You haven’t created a job in the two years that you’ve been here," an irate Rep. Mickey Michaux, D-Durham, told the GOP majority. "You’ve got 23,000 jobs on the line right here."
Republicans easily defeated three attempts to amend the bill, including a proposal to accept the federal Medicaid expansion funding for the next three years.
"You can't unring that bell," Burr said, noting it would be difficult to withdraw coverage for people once they were on the Medicaid rolls.
Under the bill, North Carolina also would not participate in creating a health exchange, which allows people who don't have employer-sponsored health coverage shop around for their own insurance. Without state support, state residents would have to use a planned federal health exchange.
"This is their idea," Burr said of the federal government. "They should manage it instead of putting it on the state."
The only changes made to the original Senate bill ensure that the state can continue to draw down federal funding for the NC FAST system, a computer system that will channel people to Medicaid and other benefit programs. That amendment means the Senate must agree with the change before the bill is sent to McCrory.




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Most of the overtime went to managers and executive-level job-holders working on the new Medicaid billing system, and nearly half of the overtime, $237,500, went to the Medicaid Management Information System director."
February 14, 2013 1:22 p.m.
What kind of twisted reasoning is this? Of course its a raise and a large one at that. Every state worker and teacher hired over the last 5 years would love to see your "none raises" when they get hired. Why don't they?
"Second their are 2 people on the cabinet that make 1dollar a year allowing for the increase for the others and add it all up and its less than our previous governors paid their cabinets"
This is irrelevant. Giving political appointees 12% raises for doing nothing while not giving other underpaid state workers who have been doing hard work the last 5 years, essentially nothing doesn't go over well.
February 14, 2013 1:16 p.m.
February 14, 2013 1:14 p.m.
How is a raise if its their starting salary first offf. Second their are 2 people on the cabinet that make 1dollar a year allowing for the increase for the others and add it all up and its less than our previous governors paid their cabinets
February 14, 2013 12:56 p.m.
We are $16 trillion in debt. That makes us the brokest country in the world.
February 14, 2013 12:54 p.m.
The Federal Reserve is a Ponzi scheme. It cannot go on indefinitely. I am not going to attempt to predict the exact point in time but if the out of control spending and printing goes unchecked, the dollar will eventually collapse. How long do you think those investing in us will continue to do so when it becomes clear we are using inflation to decrease their rate of return?
February 14, 2013 12:52 p.m.
February 14, 2013 12:03 p.m.
No, there are some who have investments in currency. Try those who have reached the age where they cannot afford to take the risk of losing everything that they have worked a lifetime to earn. They are the ones who would be harmed greatly by the devaluation of the dollar. Of course, generations younger than them never, ever think of this because they are ENTITLED to have what they want when they want it. BUT, what goes around comes around. Everyone will get old and face what the elderly now face. And some of those elderly are fed up enough to spend that currency. Wonder who will pay for the ENTITLED then? The rich will leave first.
February 14, 2013 11:58 a.m.
but hopefully short-lived.....we can throw these sociopaths out in 2014 and 2016.
February 14, 2013 11:32 a.m.
It is if you elect the GOP to power.
February 14, 2013 11:29 a.m.
February 14, 2013 11:28 a.m.
Did you not listen to your master speak Tuesday? He told you that the recession is long past and happy days are here again. In fact, he is ready to start spending, I mean "investing" again!
Why do we need such generaous UE when the economy is fixed and jobs are flowing like milk from mama's breast? Get with the program son.....
February 14, 2013 11:17 a.m.
yeah and what about when pigs start flying??? Seriously I'm curious as to why exactly you think a lower value dollar would make that much difference? Almost all investments are in things other than currency so whilst high inflation has its bad sides its not exactly Armageddon. And one good side is that it would make our National debt shrink in real terms.
February 14, 2013 11:16 a.m.
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February 14, 2013 10:56 a.m.
well, it does NOW... It didn't before 1957 though.
It was among the things the republicans did to "protect us from those godless communists" in the 50s.
February 14, 2013 10:44 a.m.
February 14, 2013 10:25 a.m.
For the family of four making $31,000, the above statement may not be true if NC does not take the medicaid expansion. Under the Affordable Health Care Act, a family of four earning $88,000 or less qualifies for medicaid. If the state in which the family lives opts out of medicaid, I am not sure that the fine is going to apply. The family had no control over the state's decision to take or not take the medicaid expansion.
February 14, 2013 10:22 a.m.
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February 14, 2013 9:15 a.m.
Let them eat cake. It's a dog eat dog world.
February 14, 2013 9:12 a.m.
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February 14, 2013 9:08 a.m.
Then why is the GOP telling everyone that they aren't going "to work with the private sector to set up affordable healthcare plans" and are just going to let the Fed Gov't do it for them???
February 14, 2013 9:02 a.m.
Just wait for the harping about the Feds imposing their will over the State...
February 14, 2013 8:54 a.m.
February 14, 2013 8:28 a.m.
Doesn't matter whether you/they can afford it or not, the President says you're getting it or paying a fine.
February 14, 2013 8:19 a.m.
Your President says so.
Or pay your fines.
Are you overweight? Your fines will be double. Do you smoke? Those fines will be triple.
February 14, 2013 8:17 a.m.
I am glad that you are so healthy. My advice is to praise the Lord that you are and pray that you never have anything catastrophic because without insurance, that would be bad.
February 14, 2013 6:05 a.m.
What we all need to do is to lobby against free trade agreements that will cost more jobs and prosperity. In addition, pushing hard to enforce the existing laws on immigration will help.
February 14, 2013 5:19 a.m.
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February 13, 2013 7:49 p.m.
February 13, 2013 7:48 p.m.
Not to mention the state of our current system... broken, mismanaged, and filled with waste and fraud.... expanding it would only waste even more taxpayer dollars.
February 13, 2013 7:33 p.m.
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February 13, 2013 7:22 p.m.
As for the uninsured, there will be no such thing come January 1, 2014.
Or so Mr. Campaigner tells us.
February 13, 2013 7:19 p.m.
Elections have consequences.....AND YOU LOST!!!!!
February 13, 2013 7:17 p.m.