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Pope pans idea to scrap NC income tax

Published: 2013-01-23 16:14:00
Updated: 2013-01-24 07:44:14

Art Pope, who was named last month as Gov. Pat McCrory's budget chief, said Wednesday that a push by Senate Republicans to eliminate North Carolina's income tax is misguided.

Pope, who was speaking to journalists at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, emphasized that he was speaking from his own perspective and wasn't conveying McCrory's official stance on any issue.

Legislative leaders want to replace the income tax with an increased sales tax rate that is applied to everything from groceries to car repairs, hair cuts and professional services.

A study by the left-leaning NC Budget and Tax Center said the wealthiest 20 percent of taxpayers would receive a significant tax cut, shifting the tax load to 60 percent of the state’s taxpayers, primarily middle-class and low-income households.

"A gross transaction tax, without any regard to whether you're actually making any money, not a tax on net income, I think that's going to hurt the economy," Pope said. "It is regressive in nature, no doubt about it."

The Budget and Tax Center also questioned the plan's ability to respond to changing economic conditions, such as when people cut back on spending, and noted that it would provide no additional money to invest in education or infrastructure.

Pope said next year's state budget will be very tight. A projected surplus of $800 million will be eaten up by rising costs for education and Medicaid, leaving no extra money for badly needed repairs.

"North Carolina's going to have to go through its budget – prioritize, modernize, innovate – to find money for needs," he said.

He didn't offer any specifics on McCrory's budget proposal, which is expected out within the next few weeks.

A former Republican lawmaker, Pope is a divisive political figure. He served for years as a leader of the conservative group Americans For Prosperity, and he and his family are major donors to Republican campaigns, conservative think tanks and third-party groups.

Democrats slammed his cabinet appointment as a political payoff – some are even calling him Gov. Pope – but he said he's unfairly targeted.

"They use me to personify their opposition to the Republican majority, to conservative policies," he said. "Rather than debate the merits of the difference in the policy, they've pursued, at times, a very vicious, malicious personal attack."

Still, Pope said, those attacks are nothing new, and they didn't stop him from accepting the post as state budget chief.

"I'm very proud to serve Gov. McCrory, and I appreciate the fact that he doesn't get dissuaded by what's said on blogs," he said.

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Hold on to your wallets folks, it's going to be a bumpy road. This is all an attempt to shift the tax burden form the wealthy to the middle class and poor. You will pay more in sales taxes for services, products and even your groceries so Art Pope can sock away another million. Since a lot of you people voted for McCrory surely you won't mind paying a little more so Art Pope and his rich buddies can put a little more in the bank. He appreciates your sacrifice.

Would it be wrong to wish for this guy to choke on the silver spoon that he has had in his mouth since birth?

It should be noted that while Art alleged he had been the butt of "vicious, malicious, personal attacks," he couldn't come up with any examples of such attacks when specifically asked for them at the event -- save for a claim he attributed to my colleague and I that he doesn't support public education.

This is a "vicious, malicious, personal attack"?? Questioning a wealthy politician's views on public education?!

For a man who has run for statewide office and spent millions to influence the state political process for decades -- often with extremely personal campaign ads (one actually darkened a cadidate's skin and superimposed a sombrero on his head)-- Art Pope has a remarkably thin skin.

Rob Schofield NC Policy Watch

Again, there are retirees from State and county government whose retirement income is not subject to NC state income taxes based upon a law suit. Also applies to retired military living in North Carolina (and some others).

If the North Carolina State Income Tax is done away with or some part switched to NC Sales Taxes, this will cause some of these people's currently exempt income to begin to be taxed. This will make MANY RETIREES unhappy, and next election they will vote accordingly!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There are other problems with doing this -- should be researched and public hearings held for at least a year to identify problems, and come up with how to handle the problems and be FAIR to everyone.

I know that there are some who feel that this retirement income should be taxed, but this was the result of a law suit that the State lost! This law suit will have a big impact upon how this shift in taxation will have to be done!

YES, I AM ONE OF THESE PEOPLE!

jlp, did you read the story?

I love how people don't seem to realize that eliminating the State Income Tax and increasing the State Sales Tax is actually the best way to tax everyone equally. This will guarantee that those in this state illegally - who are consuming our resources - will now be required to pay their fair share as well.

I find it funny that all of the liberals that always want things to be fair for everyone are now clamoring to complain about how unfair the most fair taxation system is.

People cry foul that their grocery bill will increase - for someone that spends $100 each week, your bill will increase by about $315 each YEAR - I would happily part with that $315 to save the approximately $4,900 we spent last year on state income taxes.

If you WANT to buy something, you're taxed. If you don't want pay taxes, don't buy anything at all.

I'm tired of wasting my money to pay the way of those that don't want to work. It's time they pay their fair share, and this is the way to ensure it will happen.

"People cry foul that their grocery bill will increase - for someone that spends $100 each week, your bill will increase by about $315 each YEAR - I would happily part with that $315 to save the approximately $4,900 we spent last year on state income taxes."

Lol. Taxing the typical household an extra $300 a year for their groceries isn't going to make up for eliminating the income tax - not even close. The state income tax generates approximately $10 billion in revenue per year. There are about 4 million households in NC, so the average household would need to pay more like $2500 to replace the income tax.

WolfpackAlum2007,

So you would rather pay more so that those with more than you can pay less? This flies in the face of reason. The rich don't need a tax break. This income tax elimination will cause the poor and middle class to pay a higher percentage of their income to taxes than the wealthy. Progressive tax plans are not about punishing success. They are designed to allow everyone to contribute according to their ability. There was a time when Republicans even understood the importance of progressive tax brackets. This would also be bad for business. Under this scheme one can now control their level of taxation through consumer habits. If as a business your good or service is now more expensive to me, I may opt to forgo that expenditure or take my business to a state with a less burdensome sales tax. So if you are a business owner be sure to voice your opinion. Income tax will be the least of your worries if you no longer have income.

baracus,

You are correct, but that is their plan. The current regime would love nothing more than to starve the state for revenue. This tough talkers on this board would be the first ones complaining when services they rely on are cut. The have his naive world view that they do not rely on government services and only the takers do. Did you attend a public school? Do your children attend public school? Did you study in the UNC system of universities? Do you drive on the highway? Have a drivers license? Vote? Expect to eat in a restaurant without dieing of food poisoning? Prefer water without toxic chemicals? We all benefit from government services not just the poor. Is their waste in government? Sure. Could government operate more efficiently. Probably so, but you cannot improve government by destroying it.

Art Pope's companies are downmarket retail stores. He doesn't want a sales tax increase because it impacts his bottom line.

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