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Petition drive launched to split NC from US

Posted November 12, 2012

— Conservative activists in 20 states, including one in the Triangle, say they want to secede from the United States after last week's election.

Randy Dye, a conservative blogger and columnist, filed a petition at the White House website to split North Carolina off from the nation. His is among 20 petitions filed by conservatives and tea party activists nationwide after President Barack Obama was re-elected.

"I don't see anything good coming out of Washington, and I think a lot of people are feeling that same way this day and age," Dye said outside his Pittsboro home.

He dismissed the notion that secession is a radical reaction to an election.

"When our forefathers split from King George, that was a pretty radical idea, too," he said.

Dye said he sees the election as proof that the country is headed toward socialism.

"The Democrats can have this country. They deserve it. It's going to fall, I think," he said. "I don't mean to be doom and gloom, but I'm just doing the math and the economics."

Screen shot of secession petition drive Conservative blogger says US moving toward socialism

States cannot withdraw from the U.S. – in 1869, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled secession is unconstitutional. The North Carolina constitution also forbids it, and state Attorney General Roy Cooper says it shouldn't even be considered.

"Yes, we have problems. Yes, some people may be frustrated with the outcome of the election. But it's time for us to come together and do good things for this state and this country," Cooper said.

Dye said he doesn't expect his petition to accomplish much, but it already has more than 8,400 signatures. If it reaches 25,000 signatures by Dec. 9, the White House will have to formally respond to him.

A Texas petition has already topped that threshold.

"Will something come out of it? I don't know. It's more of an ideology stand than anything," he said.

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  • quiturwhining Nov 15, 12:33 p.m.

    These folks are only declaring their ignorance. And dare I say racism?..Never before has there been such an extreme negative response to a president. If Rando & his buddies in the country weren't emotional reactionaries, they'd understand that ALL government is a group of people trying to make decisions, which is always imperfect-unless they want a dictatorship. These people are egomaniacs. Do they think they have any ideas that no one else has thought of?? Look at the governments around the globe...which one works better than ours?

    Rando do you even know what socialism is?? That word is always introduced into the American political discourse by repuglicans to scare people. Quit pouting & whining & put your energy into improving what you're unhappy about. OR, even better, LEAVE NC & the US. You're in the minority-y'all go to some other land and set up your little happy government. And leave your citizenship at the door when you go-the rest of us don't want you back. Really-please go.

  • lalaloo Nov 15, 9:19 a.m.

    Randy Dye, renounce your citizenship and get out of the USA! You are in the minority here, so leave. You do NOT speak for me or thousands of others from NC. Anyone that signs that treasonous petition should be stripped of all rights and be forced out of this country. Good Luck finding another country to take a traitor. Maybe Somalia or Iran would work for you. Good riddance!

  • jokr8790 Nov 14, 4:29 p.m.

    I just want to make it very clear, if it isn't already that Randy Dye does NOT speak for the majority of voters in Chatham County nor, clearly for a significant number of voters in North Carolina, i.e. the ones who voted to reelect the President and Vice-President. Consequently, if he and like minded people wish to leave the U.S. I doubt few will stop them. I, however, like it in North Carolina and we're not going anywhere.

  • randydye15 Nov 14, 2:32 p.m.

    As the founding fathers of the United States of America made clear in the Declaration of Independence in 1776:

    “When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.”

    “…Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and institute new Government…”

  • randydye15 Nov 14, 2:31 p.m.

    NC’s Secession Petition Reaches Goal of over 25,000 Signatures & Climbing…White House Must Respond!!

    http://randysrightiii.wordpress.com/2012/11/14/ncs-secession-petition-reaches-goal-of-over-25000-signatures-climbing-white-house-must-respond/

  • RKBA Nov 14, 11:31 a.m.

    Go Randy!!!!

  • McLovin Nov 13, 6:03 p.m.

    Geez people, it just groups of righties tyring to get attention, and you lefties are giving them all the attention the "think" they need...besides, if Romney had won, what type of stupid antics would some of the lefties come up with??

    Time to stop with the whining on both sides and at least try to work together to fix the mess Bush and Obama have led us to...

  • FourAutumn Nov 13, 5:09 p.m.

    "I say anyone that signed those petitions should be federally charged with treason. Just because you put the word "peacefully" followed by withdrawing from the union fail to excuse from an act of treason because violence will surely occur sooner or later. "

    Consider the sources of these actions. Sore losers. All of them. 4 years ago, it was the Tea Party. Now it is this.

    Just a bunch of folks who CANNOT accept that they are in the minority, that folks don't agree with them.

    I wish they could leave, honestly. Tired of all their silly whining. They already have a state run media network, TV and Radio.

    Take off...bye...don't let the door hit you in the back.

  • FourAutumn Nov 13, 5:07 p.m.

    You know, here is something interesting. More D candidates received popular votes in NC for Congress than R candidates.

    Yet, because of "redisticting", there will be 9 or 10 R congressmen from NC.

    Where is the outrage from the R's on that split? Redistricing doesn't work, right????

  • dsdaughtry Nov 13, 5:03 p.m.

    I say anyone that signed those petitions should be federally charged with treason. Just because you put the word "peacefully" followed by withdrawing from the union fail to excuse from an act of treason because violence will surely occur sooner or later.

    I am deeply disappointed in 'so called' American citizens that want to muster up division in our nation - especially during the veterans day holidays. If you are not happy with your choices of freedom in America, then quietly pursue your happiness elsewhere in the world.

    Instead of complaining about division in politics. Take a good look around at what we as a nation are doing to each other. If we wont work together towards a common good, then that is a fear we must learn to overcome. Im sure countries such as China, North Korea, Cuba or Iran are hoping that we begin a civil war here in America. Such an act or mention of division on our soil will certainly hurt our chances at promoting freedom and unity to the world.

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