Obama to Speak in Raleigh; Traffic May Be Tough Around Fairgrounds

RALEIGH, N.C. — Barack Obama will speak to a full house Thursday at the State Fairgrounds in Raleigh, and the speech was expected to combine with a business exposition there to create traffic challenges.

The Greater Raleigh Chamber of Commerce urged drivers not destined for the town meeting to avoid the area near the N.C. State Fairgrounds.

More than 2,000 people are expected for Obama. Another 5,000 are attending a business event on the grounds.

Tickets for the Obama event at the Kerr Scott Building were snapped up in short order Wednesday.

Obama is scheduled to speak in both Raleigh and Greenville Thursday.

The Raleigh speech will be carried live on WRAL.com. It is scheduled for 1:30 p.m.

Obama also gained two key North Carolina supporters Wednesday when U.S. Reps. David Price and Mel Watt endorsed him for the Democratic nomination for president Wednesday afternoon. U.S. Rep. G.K. Butterfield, former Democratic party leaders Everett Ward and Dannie Montgomery and lobbyist Joyce Brayboy have previously declared their support for Obama.

His competitor, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, has been endorsed by just one superdelegate from the Tar Heel state. Fourteen remain uncommitted.

After his meeting in Raleigh, Obama heads to Greenville for a public event at East Carolina University’s Williams Arena at Minges Coliseum. Doors there open at 4 p.m. and no tickets are required. Admission is based on a first-come, first-serve basis.

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Hockeyrules,

That is NOT my assumption, it is fact based on statistical data that I assumed was self-evident (I can provide it if needed - visit my profile) about the same population group to which pic was referring. You seem to fail to grasp I was making a logical substitution. I suppose I could have worded it to explain each step of the substitution, but again, I thought it was clear:

pop group A is subject of initial comment by pic pop group A = more likely to use social services (FACT based on data not referenced) pop group A = more likely to spend money on visible goods. (premise of aforementioned study) pop group A = pop group A

clear enough for you?

Harrison Bergeron
April 18, 2008 9:50 a.m.

Harrison, just to remind you what you actually said, here is the quote..

"To support pics empirical conclusions, The Consumer Expenditure Survey shows unequivocally that those more likely to use social services are also more likely to spend more of their income on "visible goods", up to 30% more."

You state the the survey showed that those more likely to use social services...that is not what the survey said at all or even addressed. You are making an assumption that is not at all presented in the report based on stereotypes, much as Jeremaniac and Pics did.

Very much reflects a weak arguement.

HockeyRules
April 17, 2008 6:37 p.m.

"I based it on existing statistical data regarding the use of social services vs. the conclusions of this study. Those statistics are readily available, I did not believe I had to post them."

No, Harrison...your comment was that the report supported his claims. That is not accurate. The report, when supplemented by your opinions, supported his claims. That is really how it works. Can't claim that a report supports a position when the report does not even mention that position. If youwant to write a peer reviewed abstract incorporating your opinion, go for it. Absent that, you had really proven nothing.

HockeyRules
April 17, 2008 6:24 p.m.

HockeyRules, I am aware that abstract did not make that connection; I did. I based it on existing statistical data regarding the use of social services vs. the conclusions of this study. Those statistics are readily available, I did not believe I had to post them.

And it certainly does support pics original point.

"Moderators" quietly deleted my last attempt at a reply, I am unsure why.

Harrison Bergeron
April 17, 2008 3:43 p.m.

I can see it now, Barack Obama, the very LAST president of the United States.

ncsuspam
April 17, 2008 3:33 p.m.