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Wildlife Commission sidesteps issue of killed deer

Posted October 13, 2011

State wildlife officers killed seven fallow deer and two white-tailed deer on Sept. 20 in a pen on a Randolph County farm because the owner wasn't licensed to keep the animals.

— A meeting of the North Carolina Wildlife Resources Commission ended abruptly Thursday when a supporter of a couple whose nine deer were shot and killed by state wildlife staff last month tried to speak to the panel.

Commission Executive Director Gordon Myers had just explained that Wayne and Linda Kindley, who live in Randolph County, would have an opportunity to speak at a later meeting when a supporter stood up and tried to speak. Myers quickly adjourned the meeting, which was ending, before Jo Henderson could finish.

"I know you've heard of the deer slaughter," Henderson yelled as commissioners hurriedly left the room. "Shame, shame on all of you for inviting us to speak," then not allowing the discussion, she said.

Wayne Kindley also spoke out as the meeting ended, even though his wife put her hand over his mouth to hush him.

"You guys know you're in the wrong," he said. "That's why you're shutting us up and not listening to us."

Seven fallow deer and two white-tailed deer were killed Sept. 20 in a pen on the Kindleys' farm. Myers has said Kindley didn't have a license to keep captive deer.

"I really feel bad for the deer. They weren't bothering anybody, weren't harming a soul, were well taken care of," said Devan Causey, a neighbor of the Kindleys.

Wayne Kindley said he kept the animals because the fallow deer shed antlers that he used to make chandeliers and lamps.

Wildlife Resources Commission meeting Randolph farmer, neighbors blast state panel for killing deer

Myers also said the deer had to be killed so they could be tested for chronic wasting disease, which he said can be done only on dead animals. The fatal and debilitating disease has been found in deer in 19 states, although not in North Carolina.

Wildlife officers said Kindley was warned about not having the proper permit. He did apply, but did not get the license, according to his lawyer, Matthew Altamura of Asheboro, who declined to elaborate.

He has been charged with holding deer in captivity without the proper license, which is punishable by a $10 fine. He will have his case heard before a judge in Asheboro on Oct. 25.

Since the deer were shot, the Kindleys' neighbors and people they've never met have rallied to their cause. More than 7,000 people from at least 25 countries had signed a petition on the website change.org as of Thursday afternoon.

Henderson also gave the commission petitions with the names of more than 2,000 people at the start of the meeting.

She said Myers had invited her to the meeting, which she thought meant she could speak. Commission officials explained that anyone could attend because the meeting was public, but only people on the agenda could speak.

That didn't sit well with Henderson, who complained outside the meeting as she waited for Altamura.

"They stomped on our Fourth Amendment rights" against unlawful search and seizure, she said. "They're not going to stomp on our First."

Altamura, who asked the Kindleys not to comment after the meeting, said the search warrant that wildlife officers used to get on the Kindleys property didn't authorize that the deer be killed.

"The warrants said to seize and hold," Causey said. "That means they should've put a chain around his gate (to) hold deer for further testing or tranquilize the deer, take them to their facility and test them their way. I didn't see any reason for death to be involved.

"I feel like there was a bunch of trigger-happy people."

As the meeting was winding down, Myers explained that the commission's executive committee would review the petition. The Kindleys and their supporters will be allowed to speak to the commission at an appropriate time, he said.

That's when Henderson interrupted and Myers adjourned the meeting.

Altamura also tried to speak at the meeting, asking about a proposal that refers to fallow deer as not being susceptible to chronic wasting disease. He was told the meeting wasn't a public hearing and he couldn't speak.

After the meeting, commission spokeswoman Carolyn Rickard said the disease hasn't been found in fallow deer in the wild. But the disease continues to morph, affecting different animals and captive animals are more susceptible, she said.

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  • ksolomon Oct 18, 2011

    Scientific word on the street is that fallow deer (7 of the 9 shot) cannot contract CWD (reason for slaying may be super bogus). Also, there are reports of uniformed local authorities “petition snatching”. My two cents… suppression of free speech is a violation of constitutional rights and warrants a federal investigation... regardless of the benevolent acts WILDLIFE OFFICIALS GET PAID TO DO (with our tax dollars by all means).

    Also, my engineering background tells me the NC Wildlife Commission's current strategy (if that's what you even want to call it) for containing CWD is DUMB DUMB DUMB!!! Add a border fence around the entire state, and logic starts to present itself ("duh, we don't know where the deer came from").

    Oh, and law enforcement guys, YOU HAVE NO AUTHORITY TO TELL PEOPLE WHAT THEY CAN AND CANNOT SAY - AS IF YOU DO, I THEN HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO TAKE YOUR BADGE

  • Tarheel born Oct 14, 2011

    You come on to my property with a weapon, you're going to meet one face to face. I guarantee.
    RB aka Spirit Warrior Woman
    October 13, 2011 3:28 p.m

    ...you come on to my property with a weapon, you're going to meet one face-to-face.

    With reasonable or probable cause, "RB", law enforcement doesn't have to your permission to be on your or anyone else's land.
    AND, if you meet them with deadly force or the threat of deadly force - well, it could be unfortunate for you. So I'd be careful of brash statements in the heat of a discussion.

  • bobmighellshandyman Oct 14, 2011

    It seems that not only our Federal Government has lost of their common sense but the disease has spread to North Carolina. I am outraged at the wildlife commission for being so heartless not only for the deer, but the man that took it upon himself to nurse a few of the deer back to life. We need to unemploy all of the leaders at wildlife and employ some real people for a change.

  • beccasdogs Oct 13, 2011

    wolfpack41-i'm not planning to get loud or angry but I still have the right to tell these people what I think about murdering innocent animals in such a violent way and so does everyone else. What these people did is despicable. The things that this state gets away with boggle my mind. I wish I had the time to tell you some things that have happened in this state but I really don't have all day. I'll tell you when I have more time.

  • wolfpack41 Oct 13, 2011

    @beccasdogs- First, the Executive Director of the Wildlife Resources Commission is not appointed by the Governor. He is appointed by the Commissioners. Secondly, the fair has rules and regulations. I don't think you'll be allowed to protest at the Wildlife tent. A lot of small children visit that tent and don't need a bunch of loud and angry people causing a scene about something they have no clue about. Why would you even want to ruin the fair for others?

  • greenfeet Oct 13, 2011

    Running around with a gun and killing without permission is against the law. Press charges and fire the shooters from their jobs and ban them from ever working again for the state of North Carolina. There's plenty of people willing to take their jobs and do it right.

  • beccasdogs Oct 13, 2011

    Since Gordon Myers is afraid to listen to the people who attendeded the meeting earlier today, maybe everyone should show up at their booth at the state fair and tell these people exactly what you think of them and tell others who show up who may not know, what kind of people these are. The fair is open to the public for the next 10 days and each of you is entitled by the First Amendment to express your opinions of this trash. After having read that Gordon Myers was appointed by the governor, I'm not surprised at anything he might do or say. I hope to see a crowd at this booth as I will most certainly be there.

  • bowslinger70 Oct 13, 2011

    Headpro: you don't have a clue as to CWD or the problem related to domestic raised Deer which will try to bread with the wild Deer. As far as having to have the animal dead to examine for CWD---just remember, a couple decades ago Parkinsons desease could only be confirmed after death, in the same manner.

  • Tommylee Oct 13, 2011

    Sounds like something that could only happen in Cuba, Russia, China, ETC.....You know, places where the country is run by the Goverment not the people.

  • SpaceRokr Oct 13, 2011

    Please find 7 humans to care about. If fences make a difference, visit 7 prisoners. If being dead is important, clean up the graves of 7 Veterans.

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