House overrides three Perdue vetoes, more possible

Posted July 25, 2011

— The House on Monday joined the Senate in overriding three of Gov. Beverly Perdue's record 15 vetoes.

The moves mean bills capping some jury awards in medical malpractice cases, making it tougher to implement environmental restrictions and changing the appeals process in the state Medicaid program now become law.

The House is expected to take up as many as six other vetoed bills this week, including controversial measures like requiring voters to present photo identification before being allowed to cast their ballots and requiring women seeking abortions to first receive counseling and then wait 24 hours.

"There's a couple (where) we're just trying to make sure we have the numbers right," House Speaker Thom Tillis said.

Tillis, R-Mecklenburg, said he's "guardedly optimistic" on override votes for the vetoes on abortion restrictions and on a bill that would allow more exploration for oil and natural gas in North Carolina and off the state's coast.

An override vote that fails to get a three-fifths majority means the legislation dies until after the 2012 elections.

Still, Republicans appear ready to lose some votes to stake out a position for next year's campaigns.

The Senate voted two weeks ago to override six vetoes, but House Republicans don't have enough votes for a three-fifths margin and must convince at least four Democrats to join them to succeed on any override.

Rep. Dewey Hill, D-Columbus, said Republicans have his support on several bills, including the abortion restrictions.

"I think some of our (Democratic) caucus sometimes, well, you know, if the governor wants it, we should do it," Hill said. "I think we ought to do what our (constituents) ask us to do."

North Carolina Legislature Building (4x3) House overrides three Perdue vetoes, more possible

He said another Democratic lawmaker, whom he declined to name, planned to vote for an override on another bill unless the North Carolina Association of Educators apologized for a negative ad. The legislation would prevent the group from collecting dues from teachers through payroll deductions.

"He said, if the teachers union would come back and apologize for all the bad press they gave against him, he would join (NCAE). They did some pretty bad ads,” Hill said.

The malpractice override passed by a 74-42 margin, while regulatory reform passed 76-42 and the Medicaid override passed 74-41.

Perdue said she vetoed the latter two bills because provisions in them would violate federal law or North Carolina's constitution. She called the legislation "bull-headed."

"If the Republican leadership is truly concerned about our business community, they should work with me to achieve balanced and meaningful reform," she said in a statement. "(The override votes) will only lead to unnecessary lawsuits and wasted opportunities.”

Tillis said, however, that the Medicaid reforms bring North Carolina in line with federal requirements and would cut down on fraud and abuse.

House Minority Leader Joe Hackney said Perdue's concerns with the bills could be addressed if Republicans were willing to compromise.

"It would be helpful if the Republican majority would put aside their distaste for the governor for a moment and fix those problems," said Hackney, D-Orange.


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  • newtotheboard Jul 26, 2011

    for the abortion law, i approve it. I'm for abortion. People are saying that they should give the child up for adoption. Adoption laws in this country are ridicious. That's precisely while people go outside the country. More children are wards of the state then most other countries in this world. If your going to us adoption as a means to avoid abortion, then perhaps start fixing the US adoption system first.

  • kodac31 Jul 26, 2011

    Congrats on the Veto Overrides! Word to the wise to the Democrats Legislatures...The OVERWHELMING WILL OF NORTH CAROLINIANS Want the VOTER ID Bill to be passed into law!!!! We are talking 70 Plus % of the people. Vote against that veto override at your own perile. Its an absolute common sense bill that you have ZERO valid or reasonable arguements against it other than pure and utter non-sense. Make the Photo ID Bill LAW!!

  • harviele Jul 26, 2011

    Medicare cards do not have a photo, social security cards do not have a photo, library cards do not have a photo, food stamp cards do not have a photo. Some states sell a photo id at the DMV that is valid for identification purposes only. If the state is going to require photo id to vote then the state should issue free photo id. The major reason the law is being made is not to prevent voter fraud but to prevent some people, especially older people and poor people, from voting. They think if they can put enough obstacles in the path that people won't bother voting. Something like this was implemented in Mississippi and other southern states to discourage blacks from voting back in the 50's and 60's.

  • lariatgirl Jul 26, 2011

    I applaud the over ride of abortion waiting process for 3 reasons.
    I was pregnant at 16. I was going to abort, but was too far along in the pregnancy. THANK GOD! I now have (1) a wonderful 36 year old daughter (2)a very handsome grandson and (3)a beautiful grand daughter.It's not a decision to take lightly, however some women give it no more thought than brushing their teeth. You never know, that 24 hour waiting period just might save the life of a child and or save one of your children's/grand children's lives.

  • fishon Jul 26, 2011

    The women has the right to control her own body. I will not support taking any more right away.

    How are rights being taken away? Women seeking abortions would first receive counseling and then wait 24 hours.

  • sunshine1040 Jul 26, 2011

    As for proof of age all males except for one year have been required to sign up with their local draft board for more then 60 yrs now so all the men have proof of age available and most women have gone to school or church or have driven a car and they need proof in order to draw their social security check and chould have proof of who they are to draw medicare madicade foodstamps and other goverment services. Sorry I do not know of anywone that cannot get picture ID

  • sunshine1040 Jul 26, 2011

    Abortion is a decision that should not be taken lightly but the woman that will be carrying the child and careing for the child until it reaches the age of 21 has the final decision. I would rather the child be aborted then abused and tortured

  • sunshine1040 Jul 26, 2011

    Yes you should have picture ID to vote and They should be given free or low cost to elderly. Mrs Perdue your way or the highway days will soon be over the voters will be showing you the highway

  • fuzzmom Jul 26, 2011

    DeathRow-IFeelYourPain-NOT, first of all, part of my point was that there were people who had errors on their birth certificate, such that what they were always "told" was their name/date of birth doesn't match up, and therefore it creates a problem with obtaining official ID. Secondly, yes, it is possible not to be able to "procure" a birth certificate when one has never existed for you.

  • Mark Hayes Jul 26, 2011

    Making it harder for poor to vote." Thats nonsense if your poor in this country the government social programs seem to be giving out funds to alot of people and I'm sure if you were going to get funds from the government you would not hesitate to get proper I.D. if it depended on your social aids being approved.