Perdue continues to hammer on education cuts

Posted June 7, 2011

— Gov. Beverly Perdue cited improvements in North Carolina's high school graduation rate Tuesday as evidence that the state needs to continue to invest in education.

Perdue is weighing a possible veto to the $19.7 billion state budget passed last week by lawmakers, saying the proposed cuts to education spending are too deep. She carried that message to the North Carolina Business Committee for Education, a group of large corporations focused on the link between education and economic development.

"I wonder what's going to happen to North Carolina, watching the General Assembly cut something as critical to the backbone of this state as Smart Start and More at Four," she said.

The two early childhood education programs would be consolidated and sustain large funding cuts under the proposed budget. The organization that served as a clearinghouse for Smart Start funding statewide also would be dismantled.

Perdue said the cuts extend from those programs through higher education.

"Doing what they're doing with workforce (development) at the community colleges is backing away from the investment in higher education that has built North Carolina. It makes me sad for our state and our people," she said.

Republican legislative leaders contend that their budget reduces class sizes in grades 1-3 by adding 1,100 teachers and spends thousands of dollars to study third-grade literacy programs.

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Many of the business leaders at the NCBCE luncheon said they aren't taking a side in the budget debate.

"Leaders in both parties have real challenging decisions to make right now," said Albert Eckel, chairman of the group.

Businessman Andre Peek said he believes both sides invest in education but in different ways.

"I think there are merits on both sides," Peek said. "There are difficult choices we need to make as a state and as individuals."

Eckel, whose 5-year-old daughter will enter kindergarten in the fall, said he has a vested interest in the outcome.

"I want to make sure our investment in the future is being taken care of," he said.


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  • BIlzac Jun 9, 2011

    That sounds good chevy, unless you check the facts.

    NC is one of only 27 states that do not tax social security benefits at all.

    Even with the 1% sales tax that was added in 2009, the NC state sales tax is at 4.5% which puts them in the bottom half of the states.

    Overall the US Census Bureau shows that per capita state tax amounts place North Carolina 27th out of 50 states.

    Hardly a state where we are being taxed to death.

  • chevybelair57sd Jun 9, 2011

    The trick in Government is to put in a "temporary tax" then make it permanent. I happen to be on a "fixed income" with no raises in my future. I built my home with the idea of dying in NC but will have to sell it and move to a more tax friendly state thanks to voters like BIlzak, I will try to find a nice nontax paying couple so you can support and educate them .

  • BIlzac Jun 9, 2011

    And as for whatusay...

    Please provide some evidence that is not "Well I think," or "I had a friend who told me," or "I remember reading once" as to proving that our public education system is failed.

    A system that can be better? Yes. And that will always be the case.

    Failed? Hardly. Just read through many posts on here and other education articles for evidence that this system is far from failed.

    Perhaps you have ideas on how the system could be better? And perhaps those ideas include ways that you can continue to offer a high quality education to a student base that continues to grow and continues to enter school less and less prepared or supported.

  • BIlzac Jun 9, 2011

    Are we to assume that you yourself never attended public schools? That your parents did not attend public schools? That no friends, neighbors, or relatives have kids that attend public schools?

    Your argument naturally leads to some ridiculous conclusions:

    since I am not in the military, don't use my tax dollars to pay our soldiers
    since I don't deliver the mail, don't use my tax dollars to fund the postal system
    since I never go anywhere, don't use my tax dollars to pay for roads

    Maybe you could try expanding your argument a bit. Every post is the same. "I pay too much. I pay for virtually all of public education. Stop public education since I have to pay for it all."

    You come across as sounding ridiculous.

  • BIlzac Jun 9, 2011

    This in response to superman...

    I've seen your posts throughout these forums, and they all basically say the same thing. Your mantra of end free public education quite frankly is more than a bit tiresome.

    I think we all get that you apparently have never had any children who went through public schools. We also get that you feel that since you have no children in public schools, none of your tax dollars should be used for public schools.

    I'm not sure how you have calculated that you contribute more to public education than actual parents do, but I'm sure you've rationalized this by making some assumption about low income families not having to pay taxes. God forbid that someone making $20-25 thousand per year and trying to raise a family should not have much of a tax burden. Or maybe you're just indirectly harping on an immigration issue. Either way, doesn't really matter to me.

  • whatusay Jun 8, 2011

    One question to Gov Perdue....What do you want to cut in order to keep funneling money into a failed educational system?

  • superman Jun 8, 2011

    Vocational Education is already provided by the federal government to the schools. People in prisons are receiving training by the community colleges for all sorts of trades. Bricklaying, electrical wiring, HVAC, wood working. Maybe the community college could redirect some of these resources and make more classes available on campus.

  • superman Jun 8, 2011

    Eliminate free public welfare education today Governor. End the dependent deduction on the state income tax. People who have dependents should pay an additional 1,500 for each child. People in this state who do not have children are carrying the burden for free public education. We do not have children and I pay more to support the schools than the parents. Public Welfare Education and Public Assistance-- no difference between the two in my book. Both groups are standing with their hands out complaining I dont get enough. Encourage parents to volunteer. There are thousands of people out of work and they could certainly lend a helping hand. We have too many people who sit back and say I want it and I want it all now.

  • Plenty Coups Jun 8, 2011

    "Show me some actual data that shows we have not improved over the last decade! Please, someone!"

    Its takes a genuinely honest person to admit the facts don't agree with their ideology. It's amazing when they point to an innner city school and then say, "See, public schools are failing", then point to a charter or private school with insignificant poverty and involved parents and claim they do so much better. Comparing apples to apples and allowing for student background, public schools do as well or outperform private schools. This is backed up by years of research. Here is one govt. study using data from the NAEP:


  • sillywabbitthepatriot Jun 8, 2011

    What is amiss with education is the need to educate a workforce.

    One thing Pat McCroy challenged Perdue with in debate was the need for vocational training in high schools and community colleges. Many hispanics are now taking advantage of classes that allow them to become licensed electricians, plumbers, HVAC systems techs and so forth. Why? Because there is a demand for a trained, skilled workforce who is WILLING to work.

    A degree is useless without the physical work ethic to utilize it. Hopefully, NC will replace our misguided govenor with someone who understands the need of skilled workers to improve our economy.