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Tillis: "Divide and conquer" needy

Published: 2011-10-11 14:51:00
Updated: 2011-10-11 18:22:36

House Speaker Thom Tillis told a crowd in Madison County last Friday he'd be in favor of instituting drug testing for people on public assistance. Several other states have adopted similar requirements, most notably Florida, where cash benefit recipients must pay for their own drug tests. (The state will reimburse them if they pass.)

Speaking at Mars Hill College, Tillis said he sees such testing as a step toward entitlement reform. “By gosh, if we come back in 2013, I don’t know if we’ll go as far as Florida, but if you’re receiving government assistance, and every once in a while we want to do random drug tests, done on a fair basis, I think we should do it.”  The crowd applauded.

The Speaker said he isn't convinced that the state budget this year doesn't provide enough money for Health and Human Services. “That may be true,” he said, “Or the money’s not getting to the right people.”

"When you go in and you see a woman in a wheelchair – she’s from here, she’s from Asheville – who’s on the brink of losing her benefits, and you know that Health and Human Services is sending checks to a woman who has chosen to have three or four kids out of wedlock?"

"What we have to do is find a way to divide and conquer the people who are on assistance," he told the crowd. 

"We have to show respect for that woman who has cerebral palsy and had no choice in her condition, that needs help, and we should help. And we need to get those folks to look down at these people who choose to get into a condition that makes them dependent on the government, and say, at some point, you’re on your own. We may end up taking care of those babies, but we’re not going to take care of you." 

"Won't happen next year," he added. "Wrong time, because it's gonna be politically charged. One of the reasons I may never run for another elected office is because some of these things may just get me railroaded out of town." 

Tillis also said in response to an audience question that he would support drug testing for all state employees, too.  

The video was initially posted on YouTube by MadisonCountyVideos. Watch the clip at right.   

Asked for comment or clarification, Tillis spokesman Jordan Shaw responded late today via email: 

"The Speaker simply meant that we need to protect individuals who, through no choice or fault of their own, depend on the state for benefits, and we need to ensure that those individuals are not negatively impacted by a small group of people who may abuse the system. It's about providing real help to those legitimately in need while protecting our programs from fraud, waste and abuse."


 

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As a state employee and taxpayer, I find this insulting on multiple levels. Mandatory drug testing of those seeking/receiving public assistance will 1) be a costly endeavor that I doubt passes any cost-benefit analysis and 2) is an extra hurdle for those (the majority of public assistance recipients) who genuinely need aid.

I do not comprehend at all the suggestion that state employees should be tested for drugs. There is no evidence that this has been or is a problem. There are state employees who do not do there job, but drugs are not the problem. Maybe (just maybe Mr. Tillis) the problem has more to do with many state jobs being underfunded and under-appreciated. There are of course jobs that are overpaid and take the attention away from the majority of state employees who are motivated to do public service; but political decisions do not rely on hard data, only generalizations and logical fallacies, so I'm not surprised Mr. Tillis has generated a solution that lacks a problem.

hmmm... I say both drug and alcohol - why limit testing.

readme, trust me, they are listening. They're just working an a case of indignation, how they can most likely whine, scream and throw a fit over this. I am disabled, and on some pretty heavy duty drugs and would very much welcome this any day of the week. I don't give a hoot what ANYONE says, there ARE people scamming the system every day and that needs to be stopped. I think a drug test needs to be done, and also think those that are working the system need to get off their lazy rears and go to work in the fields if nothing else. I did it for many years, and it didn't kill me.

I think we should institute drug testing for the state Legislator's also. They should NOT be allowed to conduct State related business while under the influence of any controlled drug. Mr.Tillis should be the first one tested,since he wants a law related to it passed.

Tillis and his cronies have made a pretty good run at dividing our citizens into the haves and the have nots; then conquered the have nots by balancing the state budget on the backs of the have nots. He should be real proud of himself.

Wow...dredging up that old tired myth that there are all kinds of women out there having kids "out of wedlock (what is this 1905?)" in order to get more money from the gubmint? Really? Still flogging that from 1981?

Well said. Is anyone paying attention?

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