Another gem from dataclerk: "Its not a vehicle..." Who needs Leno?

"And as for bikes, yes, they are unsafe. People (esp around my neck of the woods) get on those things and ride right down the middle of the road sometimes. Its dangerous for car drivers who may not be expecting them, and its dangerous for bike riders w/or w/o any sense because they are gonna get themselves killed."

When I learned to drive we were taught a few important concepts. The first was PAY ATTENTION. The second was don't drive faster than you can see. If visibility is limited by a sharp turn, the crest of a hill, or whatever, slow the heck down.

A person driving a car should expect ANYTHING, including bicycles, mopeds, or perhaps a kid running out in the street to chase a ball. If drivers in your area are being surprised by bicycles then perhaps they should put away their cell phones, drinks, takeout food, makeup kits, newspapers, etc, and pay attention to the road.

"personally, motorcycles do not bother me. Mopeds do. And as for bikes, yes, they are unsafe"

Motorcycle transportation has a much higher fatality rate per mile than bicycle transportation on roadways. This is largely due to the higher peak speeds and kinetic energy of motorcycle travel.

Historically, the strictest regulations are placed on those vehicles with the highest typical kinetic energy and thus greatest potential threat to innocent road users. Users of low-energy, inherently safer travel modes enjoy access to public roads with the least regulation. Sometimes users of high-energy modes resent the regulations required to make their travel safe to other road users, and demand that the traffic laws be turned on their head to penalize low-energy travelers in favor of more dangerous modes, but this is unlikely to actually happen, for obvious reasons of sustainabilty and protection of basic travel rights on non-freeway surface streets.

fatchanceimwrong...personally, motorcycles do not bother me. Mopeds do. And as for bikes, yes, they are unsafe. People (esp around my neck of the woods) get on those things and ride right down the middle of the road sometimes. Its dangerous for car drivers who may not be expecting them, and its dangerous for bike riders w/or w/o any sense because they are gonna get themselves killed.

Unsafe! Keep those dang things off the road and out of our way.