Just curious and wondering if the employees were paid their money owe to them.

When I was a kid in the late 70s and early 80s the YMCA AND the YWCA in my town were both just health clubs, or gyms as they'd be called more often today. Both offered a very limited number of reduced priced memberships based on income, but other than that, they were the biggest, most extravagantly outfitted health clubs around. And today from what I've seen the same is true.

"often censuring or disciplining them for the slightest and dumbest of infractions, like arriving at work 2 minutes late in several cases that I knew about, to calling a woman who worked for them whose children had been sick for several days to tell her not to bother to come back to work, that she'd been fired for not coming to work. I found it very unsupportive of women in that regard, and against what the world YWCA"

Well if they are chronically late, then they should be reprimanded for coming in 2 minutes late. Also, I'm sorry if your kids are sick, but the work still has to get done. Unless I had a doctor's note proving the child's ailment was serious, I'd have laid her off too.

mark - "I do not know if the YWCA was like the YMCA, but OMG, did you ever inquire about joining? The price is outrageously high!"

The YW is suppose to be woman-centric, offering programs and opportunities for women only.

The YM is suppose to be male-centric, offering programs and opportunities for men only, although the YM has branched out into offering programs and opportunities for children of both genders.

IMHO, the YW failed women in the worst way by taking advantage of the talents and dedication of the very women who worked in their offices and facilities, often censuring or disciplining them for the slightest and dumbest of infractions, like arriving at work 2 minutes late in several cases that I knew about, to calling a woman who worked for them whose children had been sick for several days to tell her not to bother to come back to work, that she'd been fired for not coming to work. I found it very unsupportive of women in that regard, and against what the world YWCA

2thec - "This is the Y"W"CA not the Y"M"CA - there's a difference."

I think folks know that but are comparing both to regular fitness clubs.

The difference with these two organizations and fitness clubs is that Ys also help the communities by providing programs for children and the aged, or at least they're suppose to.

The problem with the YWCA is that as the $$$ dwindled, they laid off people who use to search for and apply for grants for those child/elderly programs, and without those grants, the organization became doomed because one cannot simply count on member dues and donations in an economy downturn. It has to find and apply for grants as well.