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Friends recall 'terrifying' experience after trying imitation pot

Posted October 24, 2010
Updated October 25, 2010

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— Daniel Carr, 23, remembers the night his heart began racing uncontrollably. Nearby, his 18-year-old friend Austin Walker experienced similar symptoms, started hallucinating and collapsed on the ground.

The friends were rushed to a hospital after smoking an herbal incense known as K2, and now they want to warn others about the dangers.

“It was possibly the most terrifying experience I’ve ever had,” said Carr.

“It was the worst thing I’ve ever experienced,” added Walker, who says he nearly died.

The friends were at Carr’s parents’ house in Cary last month when they decided to try K2, an herbal product known as man-made marijuana or legal pot, which is legal in North Carolina.

“It’s just an herbal product, so they didn’t see any harm in it, and what happened the rest of the night was a nightmare for everybody,” said Cindy Carr, Daniel’s mother.

Tim Carr held his son’s friend after the teen collapsed near the back deck.

“I had to literally sit with him and hold tight. I mean, he was so tense, you know. It was almost cutting off my circulation,” Tim Carr said.

The Carr family said they don’t want this to happen to anyone else.

The K2 product goes by various names, including spice and black mamba, and is sold at several area smoke shops and convenience stores. It has similar properties to the THC in marijuana and comes with a disclaimer: “Not for human consumption.”

A local couple, who did not want to be identified, said they and many of their friends have smoked K2. One of those friends was rushed to Rex Hospital and died Saturday night, they said.

“It basically feels like your heart is beating 10 million miles an hour,” said the anonymous couple. “I would say out of the 20 people (whom) I talked to since 7:30 yesterday, 17 had said that they had tried it or one of their friends had tried it.”

Those who've had frightening experiences with the product are urging lawmakers to take a closer look, and some lawmakers have already talked about banning the product.

“It should not be (legal), absolutely not. It boggles my mind that it still is,” Carr said. “This is far deadlier than anything that I have ever experienced.”

WRALNews tried to get a response Sunday night from a shop owner who sells K2. The man, who did not want to be identified, said he has heard too many bad things about K2 and is pulling it from his shelves.

John Huffman, a Clemson University chemist who developed the product while doing pharmaceutical research, said last month that the research did not shed any light on the safety of the product and that he is not responsible for its recreational use.

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  • soyousay Oct 26, 2:42 p.m.

    chrome..My attorney is even laughing at you..

    your parents paid a retainer?

  • soyousay Oct 26, 2:39 p.m.

    raines...Many times the individuals who engage have existing health issues that the consumption of many substances can exacerbate

    many times they are simply stupid..darwin at work...however it sounds like they were having a heck of party at a parents house. If mommy and daay actually made them get out a find out what it was like to live on their own (at 23 and 18), they would not have so much time and money to spend on this...and then suddening have a epiphany ...perhaps when busted by the parents

  • raines mom 2000 Oct 26, 12:22 p.m.

    Did we learn nothing from the Ephreda "scare"? Many times the individuals who engage have existing health issues that the consumption of many substances can exacerbate. Only a small percentage have issues with this product. People will always be on the look-out for something won't they? Just go ahead and legalize MJ and do it the right way.

  • ForTheLoveOf Oct 26, 11:41 a.m.

    Natural selection.

    Lucky for them hospitals are around to save most people from said natural selection.

  • poohperson2000 Oct 26, 11:26 a.m.

    Not sure why smoking anything would seem like a good idea.

  • Peace Love and Cold Meds Oct 25, 4:06 p.m.

    "They only had 2 'hits', but they had smoked it in the past with no ill effects."
    "They are good kids"

    They may be good kids, but I say if they only took 2 puffs and had those reactions they should stick to water and cookies. I personally think they are out for the media time and of course wral will always oblige. Since I haven't heard anything about their story anywhere else, I am resting easier knowing the store still has some in stock. Now where are my darn keys.

  • Justin T. Oct 25, 3:42 p.m.

    I'm so tired of reading the comments on this story... as soon as I get home I'm going to eat some imitation food and wash it down with an imitation beer (Slim Fast & O'Douls).

  • NCSU2311 Oct 25, 3:36 p.m.

    Simple possession, might be simple, but ask you employer if they want their name associated with a drug head? Now, I already know you will tell us oh so progressive your employer is, but don't mind the snickers and guffaws, we all started out a little wet behind the ears!!!! But it's okay, you go ahead and keep on-keeping on, your day will come and your tune WILL change, rest assured. Have a good day!
    JKKC
    GOLO member since July 8, 2010
    October 25, 2010 3:15 p.m.
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    Learn law. Why would I ever be searched from "my spot" to my house? You have to have a reason to stop me and search me. I'll eat it first. You act like I buy a pound a week. Lol. I can eat a quarter before thecop gets out of his car.

  • fatchanceimwrong Oct 25, 3:19 p.m.

    What happened with these kids is that they smoked too much at one time. This stuff is stronger than MJ so you can't smoke as much at one time. With most of it, you only need a couple of light puffs. It's quite enjoyable in moderation and similar to a short-tem pot high that last about 20-30 min. The problem is that since it's being marketed the way it is, sellers can't inform of the proper amount to use. Before trying it myself, I did quite a bit of research online; there are plenty of forums with advice and testimonials. I brush off any criticisms personally since it's a legal product and I have the freedom to make my own choices regardless of anyone else's points of view, same with alcohol, cigarettes or other vices.

    As far as addiction, that's subjective. There are many things that people like to enjoy but that doesn't necessarily mean they are addicted to them. Some of you on here are quite judgemental of others personal choices.

  • JKKC Oct 25, 3:15 p.m.

    Simple possession, might be simple, but ask you employer if they want their name associated with a drug head? Now, I already know you will tell us oh so progressive your employer is, but don't mind the snickers and guffaws, we all started out a little wet behind the ears!!!! But it's okay, you go ahead and keep on-keeping on, your day will come and your tune WILL change, rest assured. Have a good day!

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