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Wake County year-round students return to school

Posted July 7, 2009

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— Summer vacation is over Tuesday for 40,000 Wake County students as they return to 52 elementary and middle schools on the year-round calendar.

Wake County is debuting three new schools – Banks Road Elementary at 10225 Chambers Road in Raleigh; Herbert Akins Road Elementary at 2255 Herbert Akins Road in Fuquay-Varina; and Lake Myra Elementary at 1300 Elk Falls Drive in Wendell.

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With schools in session, that means more drivers are on Wake County roads. When all schools are in session by the end of August, 900 buses will travel Wake County roads with a total of 75,000 students.

Parents can visit Wake County Public Schools’ transportation Web site to find answers to questions about services. Transportation officials can also be reached at 919-856-8050.

Bus routes for the 52 year-round schools are online. Bus routes for traditional calendar schools will be updated online in early August.


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  • Not_So_Dumb Jul 7, 2009

    No poohperson, I put those numbers against two existing schools in use in Wake County. Reality based. Not some ethereal projection or possible outcome. This is what is happening to day in WCPSS. We are paying out more than we are getting in return.

    I like YR, but it is being implemented wrong.

  • poohperson2000 Jul 7, 2009

    speedy- I know we have been down this row before, if the YR system is managed properly you would collapse tracks and condense if not needed. That IS what is happening at our school. Track 2 is down to one 4th grade class. Some went to Banks Rd and other students voluntarily moved. Some class rooms were never meant to be in use 24-7, such as Art, Music, Computers, Counselors, Speech, OT, and Title 1 programs. Why is this? Well those teachers are not full time, so they either work various schools or are 10 month employees. For example our Media center is run by 12 month employees, they get x number of vacation days, but every other day they are at work like the rest of us. You are making your judgements and assesments based on what your eyes have seen, without looking at numbers are stopping to ask why that class is dark.

  • poohperson2000 Jul 7, 2009

    Not so Dumb, but in your calculation you have to put those figures up againt the cost of building a new school to accomodate the increased capacity of the YR. Yes is you are looking at just the operating costs and overhead it is more expensive, but still cheaper than a new school.

  • Not_So_Dumb Jul 7, 2009

    deathrow - "You are using numbers that assume the YR schools never fill up. So you financial data is squeued."

    Because that is reality! Tracks don't ever fill up and room counts don't always divide by three allowing maximum utilization. The breakage rate is actually quite high. Look at the experiences nationwide. Few hit much higher than 20% system wide. That is reality, not theory. There are plenty of solid theories that don't work in reality.

  • Mean Old Mom Jul 7, 2009

    I like year round because I like the school better than the traditional option. Better principal, teachers, etc. Have one in traditional and one in year round and I will deal with some of the inconveniences because the school is that much better.

    As for days off, look at the calendars for 2009-2010. The tradtional schools have lots of three day weekends. Add to that Christmas break, Easter break, the early release every Wednesday and the 2.5 hour early release 6 Wednesdays of the year, and the tradtional has plenty of breaks too. In fact, you wonder when they learn. (the students, not the teachers).

    For those interested... District 1 has 4 people running for Lori Millberg's seat. We might see some change since 4 other seats are up for grabs. The school board elections are on October 6th I think. Keep it in mind.

  • speedy Jul 7, 2009

    Deathrow. Any YR scholl I've been in has 1/4 of the classrooms "dark". i.e. no kids in them. HOW does this increase capacity?

  • DeathRow-IFeelYourPain-NOT Jul 7, 2009

    "Yet it taught only 21% more students."

    In a YR school that isn't filled up yet, this is true. And yes some YR schools aren't filled yet. But that will change. A YR school can tend to 33% more students than the equivalent size Traditional School. Every 9 or 10 weeks, one-third of the students Track Out and the same number Tracks In. If a Traditional School could cater to 900 students, that same school building on a YR Schedule can cater to 1200 students.

    You are using numbers that assume the YR schools never fill up. So you financial data is squeued.

  • Not_So_Dumb Jul 7, 2009

    rand321 -Go look at the experiences of other districts. Year round increases costs more than they increase enrollment. This isn't to say that they cannot work, but pretty much every major example of widespread, mandatory year round instituted for cost savings has failed. Comparing just utilities, two schools built on identical floor plans, one year round and one traditional, the year round school cost 27% more to heat and cool during the year. Yet it taught only 21% more students. 6% increase in per student operating costs will eat up in a hurry any capital cost savings when multiplied by nearly 150,000 kids.

    The problem is that more times you divide, the more times you get a remainder. In a traditional school, you divide kids by grade and then by class. In YR, you divide by grade, track and then by class. That is a 50% increase in chances that the numbers won't work. Add in guaranteed same track for siblings and all of sudden, you struggle to see a 20% capacity increase.

  • SS67 Jul 7, 2009

    My child attended year-round school and the world didn't end!

  • rand321 Jul 7, 2009

    I cannot see how having more schools, more teachers, more staff, more buses to put all the kids into traditional school for 9 months of the year and then have the overhead sit idle for 3 months costs less?

    Greater utlization of overhead increased capital productivity and saves money. If the issue is too much money on busing, then perhaps we should end bus service for choice schools and let parents provide their own transportation.

    In reviewing the numbers, year round savings lots of moeny in many ways. We should have all the schools on year round.