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Commuter rail system gets price tag


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The North Carolina Railroad Company (NCRR) released an 11-month study Thursday that determined rush-hour commuter trains can operate on NCRR tracks along with freight trains from Greensboro to Goldsboro.

“I think we have the potential to be a leader in commuter rail transportation because we own an extremely valuable, 200-foot-wide corridor through the state,” said Scott Saylor, NCRR president.

Plans for a light-rail system stopped when federal funding fell through. Many said it was too expensive. So NCRR, which owns a 317-mile right-of-way from Morehead City to Charlotte, conducted its study to find out if commuter trains could run on current tracks – a cheaper way toward a commuter rail system.

“Our answer is yes. We think it's possible. In fact, we know it's possible,” said Bill Kincheloe, chairman of the NCRR board of directors.

If a Goldsboro-to-Greensboro commuter plan were implemented on the NCRR corridor, trains would make 29 stops in seven counties with a total population of more than 2 million, with 18 colleges and universities within two miles of the rail lines.

Durham Mayor Bill Bell says he likes the idea, but has concerns over funding.

“How does it get funded? We've got a lot of different needs that local government has, and we've got to put some priority on them,” Bell said.

Total infrastructure cost for new tracks, sidings and bridges along the 141 miles would be $650 million, and equipment and support facilities are estimated at $350 million.

Commuter rail on the NCRR could be implemented in less expensive phases according to ridership demand, Kincheloe said.

Some commuters say dense traffic on local highways is enough reason to give rail high priority.

“I think we need to afford whatever we need to afford, and again with the smog that all the cars are producing, I think we really don't have a choice,” commuter Michael Teague said.

Detailed studies on ridership and operating cost would have to be conducted, Kincheloe said.

“Eventually, something like this will have to be done,” Kincheloe added.

On NCRR's tracks, existing freight service, operated by Norfolk Southern, already touches 24 percent of the state’s economy and is projected to increase.

Funding for the rail conversion, NCRR representatives say, would have to come from all levels of government: federal, state and local.

RELATED TOPICS: Mayor Bill Bell, Durham

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ONE BILLION DOLLARS AND NOBODY IS GOING TO RIDE IT. GREAT IDEA. THE TRAIN TO NOWHERE.

I would ride it. It's got to come close to my house and go close to my work and come often. but if they could do all that, I would take it. I also need it to run until 8pm or so. But other cities have figured this out, I'm sure we can too.

KevInApex - This article is talking about an NCRR project that is completely separate from TTA or STAC's plan to put in regional rail between Ral/Dur and Dur/CH. It is the TTA/STAC plan which does not address a connection to the airport, due to the Airport Authority saying NO b/c they spent millions on parking infrastructure instead of coordinating to spend money to bring rail to RDU. That said... NCRR's commuter rail plan is also plagued with oddities. Who wants to live in Goldsboro and work in Greensboro and visa-versa?? Does adding the 2 parallel tracks for NCRR's plan trump or integrate into the 2 parallel tracks TTA/STAC are asking for?

All these agencies continue to waste our tax dollars looking at solutions independently of one another. That very thing is how we got where we are today. They have to come together into one room and one room only to pound this out for the Triangle. Rail can succeed and should be built, but not until there is a single, combined effort.

Gov't facilitates transportation using our tax dollars. The key is for them to do this efficiently. I also think do it with as little enviromental damage as possible, but I think most will agree transportation should be as quick and cheap as possible.

I'm not an expert, but at some point their are calculations of how much it cost to move an estimated number of people some distance (per mile) in some reasonable time. If, to meet demand, the train system cost a billion and all the new roads would cost 10 billion, build the train; if that is reversed, build the roads.

For me the enviroment is included, so I may give more weight to plans that reduce emissions and the paving over the world, but not absolute priority.

Funding for the rail conversion, NCRR representatives say, would have to come from all levels of government: federal, state and local.

And where will government get this money? If government is to take over the banks, why not the railroads? Then health-care.....

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