Raleigh, N.C. — A City Council member has revived the long-simmering debate over front-yard parking, calling for strict limits on vehicles sitting on lawns.
City codes allow resident to park on up to 40 percent of their front yards, but Councilman Thomas Crowder said he would like to limit parking to paved surfaces or areas covered with at least four inches of crushed stone.
"It is a very large eyesore," Crowder said of lawns crowded with vehicles. "We have to deal with the quality of life and environmental issues that are attached to that."
The debate over yard parking has been on and off for several years in Raleigh. Some groups, like college students, have opposed it; some city officials said a blanket rule isn't needed since the issue crops up only in a few neighborhoods; and no one can agree on who would enforce any new rules.
Elizabeth Byrd, president of the West Raleigh Citizens Advisory Committee, said she supports Crowder's idea. So does resident Mark Vanderborgh, who notes the environmental benefits of not parking on lawns.
"Over time, you keep pushing down (the grass), killing it. It's not going to grow back once that happens," Vanderborgh said. "You (then) have this little impervious surface, (and when) the rain comes, it washes all those little particles of dirt downstream and, in this case, into our stormwater."
But members of the Raleigh Antique Automobile Club said Crowder's proposal would hurt their hobby.
"You need working room," club president Michael Soehnlein said. "(My car) has been (parked) out front while the garage was being used for other things."



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Well, there goes gramps Thursday night bridge games. And forget juniors fourth birthday party. I suppose that the all night study session for the Chem E final is out of the question as well?
Unforeseen consequences are the hazards of good intentions.
But just watch Crowder change his proposal. The last time he did this, he wanted to require all sorts of things like the gravel and percentage of yard that could be paved. But he also included in that the mandate that certain types of bushes be planted to delineate the driveway so that it would not be an eyesore to him; apparently he does not like unbordered driveways. Unfortunately, he assured everyone several years prior re the Avent West overlay that he would NEVER draft a residential ordinance requiring the specific planting of shrubbery. We called him on it. He went away for a bit. Now the liar is back. So watch your backs.
September 15, 2007 11:37 a.m.
I say let the cars sit in the yards, but not allow more than three people the same age to hang out there. My neighborhood endured the 'house from hell' a few years. Sheriff coming weekly, and many other indignities seen, until the owner was sent away for LIFE for drug dealing...no kidding. The next owner didn't understand why we were all so happy to see her move in. All in all, most people are able to live around others. Imagine those living with shared walls and whose ceilings are another's floor! I remember that.
September 15, 2007 10:08 a.m.
September 15, 2007 8:21 a.m.
I built a really nice shed, the Taj Ma Shed in fact, in my back yard in order to store and sort my baseball cards. AC, heat, DirecTV, and internet connection. Really cool. Anyway, the last time I tangled with Crowder on this issue, in his delusional fantasies, he went to the city inspectors office and claimed that I was using the building as a residence. The inspector came out and I was more than glad to show her that Crowder was nothing more than a vindictive and manipulative busy-body whose worth to our community is not only limited, but a detriment. To protect her, I won't relate her comments in return.
That is not the only time something like that has happened with Crowder. He wants his little feifdom and will not relent until he gets it. Fortunately, there are a sufficient number of adults around to put him in his place.
September 15, 2007 7:24 a.m.
This is not the Quets story; this is a story about front yard parking. Even if it were the Quets story, I asked on quesiton about signing contracts under duress without any qualification to that question. I had no other posts in that thread nor did I have any opinion in that story. But in light of elcid's response and a smattering of information, I would tend to agree that Quets signed the adoption papers under duress and there is a question as to their validity. So we agree. I guess that makes you also a bag of hot air.
As to the English 101 comment, sometimes I have to be condescending so that folks like you can follow the discussion.
Are your medication levels adjusted properly?
September 15, 2007 6:57 a.m.