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Wake Schools: Let's Communicate About New Developments

Posted August 15, 2007

— Every time a developer breaks ground on a new subdivision, Wake County Public Schools officials say - more often than not – they find out from county records or the developers themselves.

And when it comes to school planning, those county records might not tell the whole story.

“Frequently, what we get are portions of the development, and ultimately, the development will be much larger,” said Chuck Dulaney, Wake County’s school system growth coordinator.

The 12 Oaks subdivision in Holly Springs is one example, he said. Dulaney said his office tracked down the developer, who explained current county records only show a snapshot of the 1,500 homes it could become.

Holly Springs officials said they sent the school system information on the initial phases of the development a year ago, and they showed WRAL a letter dating back to 2003 that explains what the subdivision would eventually be.

“One of our responsibilities is to keep the school board informed, and I think we’re doing as much as we can,” said Dick Sears, Holly Springs’ mayor.

Sears, who is also a consultant for the 12 Oaks subdivision, said he wants to make sure there is good communication. In light of staff turnover, Dulaney said he'll check to make sure the information is getting to the right school system people.

“I think our success hinges on that staff to staff communication,” Dulaney said.

With 12 different municipalities to monitor, school planning is constantly evolving. School officials said they would prefer being involved before subdivisions get approval.

Sears said that’s something the town could consider.


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  • Uncle Ruckus Aug 16, 2007

    Since and maybe before 2000, Cary and maybe Apex have been sending WCPSS Office of Growth Management the basic info about approved sub-divisions. However, once it got to "Growth Management" who knows what happens. But at least they got some of the information because there are still "spot" nodes on the big maps. I got this info from Ramsey Beavers during one of the "Community Outreach (but don't talk back) Growth" meetings many years ago. He mentioned that he wished the rest of them would do it as well. Oh well, must be election season again, and have to make the current school board members look good.

  • no.ral.old guy Aug 16, 2007

    I say it's time to bust the WCPSS into 10 to 12 school boards, Ral, E. Ral, West Ral, Apex, Cary, etc. That way each board is responsible for their area. Think of the enormous amount of savings on gas alone!
    Are you wid us or agin us?

  • jasonicholas Aug 16, 2007

    or maybe not...

  • jasonicholas Aug 16, 2007

    Maybe a little birth control could solve all of this... That ought to get a response or 2...

  • NeverSurrender Aug 16, 2007

    "If developers of the mega-subdivisions were required to allocate land and even build (as per a set of state/county standards) a schools to accomodate an expected number of children which this subdivision would bring, then we wouldn't be having these problems."


    Maybe the parties involved ought to take a play out of the Continental Congress' play book.

    The Land Ordinance of 1785 stipulated that for a given six-mile by six-mile square township plan divided into 36 square mile sections (640 acres), one section (#16) would be reserved for the maintenance of schools.

    I'm thinking 640 acres (roughly twice the size of the Dix campus) ought to be more than enough for plenty of school space... :)

  • Rocknhorse Aug 16, 2007

    If developers of the mega-subdivisions were required to allocate land and even build (as per a set of state/county standards) a schools to accomodate an expected number of children which this subdivision would bring, then we wouldn't be having these problems. If building an actual school was not necessary, then proportionate proceeds would go to existing schools.

    Also, impact fees to account for roads and water conditions.

    Uncontrolled growth causes ripple effects of problems. Controlled growth enhances and promotes areas.

  • Not_So_Dumb Aug 16, 2007

    So Cliff Notes version of the above:
    WCPSS - They didn't tell us about the development.
    Developer - Yes we did. Here is the letter that we sent.
    WCPSS - Ah, um, well, staff to staff communication is the key.
    Any Intelligent Person - No kidding, but WCPSS staff is the problem here isn't it? How about you come out and recognize that rather than just complaining about others?

  • dragonslayer Aug 16, 2007

    So the school system thinks IT should have a say in the development and approval of subdivisions and housing developments BEFORE the they are approved .WHY ? I guess so they can EXTORT land and money from the developers .As WE all know a school in YOUR community does not mean YOUR child will attend that school , they may be bused across town for the school boards social experiments . VOTE the bums out of office !!!!!!!!

  • Nothing New Aug 15, 2007

    you believe that BS, everything budgeted spent on every project, to almost the exact dollar amount. Never has a government project every spent what was budgeted or built what was proposed for the monies allocated. That was put out by WCPSS, what would you expect them to tell us. That why any audit needs to be done, to see if we got what we have approved in the past. Been here over 20 years and tired of all figthing between school board (who dont listen and when the calling public hearings have already made up there minds, and the Commissioners hearing from the public trying to do something). Its time to what WCPSS has done with past monies from bonds, not just thier posted numbers, of course they will match, what else do you expect.

  • TheAdmiral Aug 15, 2007

    just brian -

    If I ran for school board, I am glad I have your vote. Since everyone who ran for school board was smeared by the board as not being in touch with reality.

    Whose Reality? Theirs? If that is the case, it must be nice to corner the market on Crack cocaine in the schools.