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Johnston Board Approves New Clayton School Start Times

Posted August 14, 2007

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— The Johnston County School Board voted 4-3 Tuesday to implement new start times for Clayton-area schools when doors open in two weeks, a way to make more trips with the same number of school buses and to avoid worsening a $2 million budget shortfall.

The board's meeting was heavily attended by parents upset that they found out only in recent weeks about the planned changes. An early motion to delay the vote – and the new schedule – failed.

The plan calls for schools to start between 15 and 30 minutes earlier or later than last year. School starts Aug. 27.

Because of a growing population, the county would have to buy more buses to handle all the runs necessary if start times remain as they have been.

The plan raised the ire of parents, who claimed they first heard about the proposal a few weeks ago. 

“If this had been planned, it should have been talked about in May,” said PTA President Jennifer Hall. “Trying to get our kids to school by 9 is really difficult, especially for working parents. Trying to make arrangements at this late time is difficult as well.”

The proposal affects schools in the Clayton area this year, but it would go county-wide in two years, according to school officials.


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  • SWinslow Aug 16, 2007

    Hey Steve Crisp: Guess what? Teachers already do all of that AND take it home with them. My wife taught for several years before quitting to raise our kids at home because she was bringing so much work home from her job as a high school English teacher. Hours and hours plus being required to advise after school clubs and be available for many nighttime open houses, honor society meetings, PTA meetings, etc. She often had to use her planning period for inservice workshops, administrative duties and/or covering classes for other teachers when a sub wasn't available Subs are hard to come by - or were at the time, so this happened once a week or more. During lunch, she was required to do lunch or hall monitoring which took up half of her 30 minutes for a week out of the month. On top of it all, she put up with kids she wasn't allowed to discipline or send out of her class for disrupting. You go do that job for awhile and then come back and post how it should be "like everyone else."

  • webhype Aug 15, 2007

    My plan for school start times is to not have to be in this situation in the first place, our politicians need to be more forward thinking. Residential development brings additional needs, even when providing minimal services those costs rise exponentially, you don’t need an advanced degree to figure that out. The Board of Commissioners needs to provide a proper level of funding for all aspects of schooling. Bonds handle building needs only, maybe every time a bond issue is proposed, transportation needs to be included as part of the PLAN. Only make sense that larger infrastructure requires more funding. Unfortunately our leaders do not seem to understand these needs and are not the forward thinking types, more reactive as opposed to proactive.

  • webhype Aug 15, 2007

    Also I haven't run into many teachers that seem to try to beat the system and spend less than 8 hours a day related to their job, actually seems much more is asked from them than standard 9 to 5 employees all for slightly above poverty level wages. I glad you have done your research and reached the same conclusions as your fellow conservative heroes. I will not classify all the conclusions derived from the school of advanced conservative studies as propaganda, just that you and your ilk are not correct 100% of the time as you seem to think. And I apologize to lump you in with those who blindly follow the “research” and viewpoints spewed by conservatives, just as I would those who follow liberal views blindly.

  • webhype Aug 15, 2007

    Steve Crisp, I am not privy to your previous posts outside this thread, however I agree with you on your 7 points except: "Required extracurricular activities" which should be optional and not the part of the curriculum, hence "extra". BTW: my son just earned his Eagle badge.

    Again we are getting off course here regarding the subject at hand – transportation and how this was sprung on the parents in the Clayton area, seemingly at the last minute. Certainly as you propose if there were universal school start times across the board it would require a substantial amount of capital outlay for buses – not something that the County Commissioners would likely approve in this climate of fiscal conservatism.

  • nunya Aug 15, 2007

    Just like jons1 said all Johnston county tax payers was duped. Thank goodness I didn't vote for the bond referendum that passed. The politican's spend the money wasteful and come back for another hand out at taxpayers expense!

  • Kurlley Aug 15, 2007

    This is where we need to start at people.

    Office of the State Superintendent
    NC Education Building
    6301 Mail Service Center
    Raleigh, NC 27699-6301

  • Kurlley Aug 15, 2007

    Superintendent Anthony Parker's contract was up in June of this year if I am not mistaken. Who is responsible for his reenlistment into this position? Granted he is not an elected official, but he does have a boss who will defiantly be hearing from me and I hope that the parents, teachers and just plain citizens of Johnston County will unite in an effort to protest this type of disrespect of us and lack of consideration for our children and will bombard the NC State Board of Education with our issues.

  • Kurlley Aug 15, 2007

    According to the News and Observer these are the new times
    TIME SHIFTS The following schools will have these new start and end times:
    CLAYTON HIGH: 7:07 a.m. to 2:10 p.m.
    CLAYTON MIDDLE: 7:47 a.m. to 3 p.m.
    RIVERWOOD MIDDLE: 8 a.m. to 3 p.m.
    EAST CLAYTON ELEMENTARY: 8:45 a.m. to 3:45 p.m.
    COOPER ELEMENTARY: 8:45 a.m. to 3:45 p.m. WEST CLAYTON ELEMENTARY: 8:30 a.m. to 3:30 p.m. RIVERWOOD ELEMENTARY: 8:45 a.m. to 3:45 p.m.

    I am happy to say that I have confirmed with the school that West Clayton times did NOT change. However I will still be out campaigning against getting Dorothy Johnson, Jack O'Hale, Kay Carroll, Fred Bartholomew and last but certainly not least Superintendent Anthony Parker when they come up for reelection. Oh yeah it is on my personal agenda to make sure they are booted out of office and the rest of you should join me in this effort.

  • Steve Crisp Aug 15, 2007

    And webhype, I always wonder why it is that when folks like you spout the standard mush-headed liberal line that has zero foundation in logic, you consider yourself open minded. But when someone who has actually done research and read extensively on the subject decides that the conservative position is the correct one, we are the closed-minded dittoheads?

    So what's your plan for school start times? And why?

  • Steve Crisp Aug 15, 2007

    And the two go hand in hand. Early start times are a holdover to the agrarian society we used to have. Farmer's would get up at 5 or so, their kids would help with chores for a bit, go to school early, and get out early to work while there was still light. That is no longer needed. We are now a service society. And even shift work is far less than it was even 20 years ago, lessening the need to adjust school times to work shift times.

    Plus teachers need to actually put in a day's work. On a 9 to 3 system, they come in at 8, teach till 3, then participate in after school activities until 5 twice per week. And they only each teach 3 or 4 classes so they have an hour or two per day to grade, three days during that after school period, plus lunch since they have no lunch duty either. If they can't get it done, then they do what every other professional on earth does -- they take it home with them.