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More problems surface in FSU nursing program


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More Problems Surface in FSU Nursing Program
More Problems Surface in FSU Nursing Program

A dozen nursing students met Wednesday with Fayetteville State University administrators to express their concerns about the program after many students failed a recent exam.

Forty-three of 46 rising juniors in FSU's nursing program failed a test administered by Health Education Systems Inc., or HESI, that was part of a summer school course that ended Tuesday. Some students said the test included material that wasn't covered in the course.

An FSU spokeswoman said the exam accounted for 15 percent of the grade in the course, so students could fail the test and still pass the course.

"I think there were some misunderstandings on how this test was going to be used, and we wanted to clarify that," said David Barlow, dean of the College of Basic and Applied Sciences, which oversees the nursing program.

Barlow said the exam was an assessment test to help instructors tailor courses to students' needs.

"One of the things we'll look at is taking the assessment exam to look at what the students' weaknesses and strengths are as individuals and develop an education plan to help them succeed," he said.

The meeting came weeks after 24 of 31 seniors in the school's two-year-old nursing program weren't allowed to graduate after failing an exit exam administered by Health Education Systems. Those students complained that the test wasn't part of their original graduation requirements, and they threatened to sue FSU.

The students were allowed to retake the test, and 13 of them received their degrees.

The problems with the nursing program were among those cited last month when Chancellor T.J. Bryan resigned.

Interim Chancellor Vic Hackley said he plans to review the nursing program. He said it needs time to develop, and administrators need to ensure that instructors are teaching material covered in the exams.

"Everything has to be directed toward what that HESI piece or the whole thing will assess -- the lectures, the course content, every quiz, every midterm," Hackley said.

Barlow said he believes the program's courses mesh with the tests.

"We put together an analysis of the course content and the subject matter that's on HESI, and we feel confident we're doing what we need to do," he said.

RELATED TOPICS: Fayetteville State University, Fayetteville

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Why is it that the nurses I see in the hospital start out at 250 lbs. I think some played tackle or guards on a football team.

I think most of you do not get what this story was about.

When the nursing program began at FSU, they were not told they had to pass this exam to earn their degrees. That is why they threaten to sue. If they can’t pass this test should they be nurses? In my opinion, no. Can I complete 2 years of school and a month prior to graduation they tell me “OH by the way you don’t graduate if you didn’t pass this exam”...I don’t think it is fair, that should have been explained up front. If I understand correctly, they didn’t know they were not going to graduate until right before graduation! That is just wrong.

FSU is a very diverse school and because the cost is one of the lowest in NC there are many students there that have high SAT scores. TJ Bryant had been working on bringing students in with higher academic qualifications then what had been done in the past.

FSU just earned accreditation that puts them in company with UNC-C, Duke, NCSU. OH and FSU is a UNC system scho

Good lord, I hope to never go to a hospital or need care from any of those 'nurses.' It's a shame that they may get a degree from threatening with a lawsuit. If you can't pass the test, you should NOT become a nurse!!

Mercy...

Assuming there are more than two students, I suppose that should be sows' ears.

At least I've gotten to laugh at myself today.

This story bugged me, so I trotted off to FSU's site and checked their academic profile, which you can see for yourself here:

http://www.uncfsu.edu/profile.htm

The 2006 Freshman Profile lists 693 of 839 students with a SAT score below 1000. Of those same 839 students, 474 had a high school GPA between 2.01 and 3.00.

Within their nursing department, the upper division pre-licensure track is a competitive program (http://www.uncfsu.edu/nursing/FAQs.htm). How competitive? Why, you need a C in your science classes and a GPA of 2.5. If that's considered "competitive" at FSU, I wonder what's considered "average"?

Now tell me again why it's all the fault of the teaching staff there?

Perhaps they should look at the sow's ears they've got taking up desk space before they blame the lack of silk purses on the tailors.

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