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New Wake Students to Get Same Treatment on Year-Round Assignment

Posted June 19, 2007
Updated June 20, 2007

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— The state Court of Appeals on Tuesday turned down the Wake County school system's request that it be allowed to place new students in year-round schools without parents' permission if the system thought it necessary, school officials said.

The district implemented Superior Court Judge Howard Manning's directive for parental consent for non-traditional calendars even as it appealed his decision in a lawsuit that a parents' group brought against the plan.

In the process, the district had asked the court to be flexible about students who enrolled after June 4.

The district went through a complicated reassignment process after about 2,600 students out of approximately 30,000 said they did not want to stay in year-round schools if they were already in them or did not want to be assigned to them, as the district had planned.

It is not clear when the appeals court will hear the district's case.

Patti Head, who has served as school board chair during the year-round school effort, said officials still hoped the court might stay Manning's order for new students later in the appeal process.

The school district is converting a number of elementary and middle schools from traditional to year-round calendars this year as a way to handle increasing numbers of students. Schools on year-round calendars can enroll more students because a quarter of the student body is always on break.



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  • latin4change Jun 21, 2007

    CUDOS to Commissioner Joe Bryan for willing to step up and do what he thought best! We call can learn a lesson from what he did. NOW...if someone will just REMOVE that new Human Services director, Ramone Rojano! That man is going to ruin that county department! The former director and staff worked so very hard to build a strong department - helping so many needy folks - and this man is tearing it apart already! He is very rude to some staff, and makes "off the cuff" remarks to females, especially...some with a sexual context. If the commissioners don't get rid of this man, it will continue to happen. Staff are afraid to say anything ..afraid to lose their jobs. The Human servics board did NOT want this man - the county mgr. forced him down their throats! PLEASE encourage county commissioners to get him out. HE is a disgrace to our latin culture.

  • Rocknhorse Jun 20, 2007

    Good luck to your child! As it's already been mentioned here, if you are active and involved, which you appear to be, you'll find a solution! 3rd and 4th were hard for us b/c of the teacher (same teacher each grade, long story, but we didn't make that mistake a 3rd time). However, the level expected by us during those grades did help form the work habits which made 5th a piece of cake!

    Good luck!

  • poohperson Jun 20, 2007

    I hope that my 3rd and 4th grades are not so hard. I can only hope my son conquers his major hurdles by then so he can cope. We do sport also, which has its benefits to the kids too.

  • Rocknhorse Jun 20, 2007

    For us it was 3rd and 4th grade. My child would sit down as soon as we arrived home from school and begin work. We are also involved in sports and occassionally would have to finish the homework after baseball. Yes, there were times I sent a note saying the homework was excessive, but more often, I made sure it was done. I felt it was the teacher's responsibility to understand the workload expectations and not over burden the kids. I often sat beside my child and, on a separate sheet of paper, did the exact same homework. It often took me 1 hour, sometimes 1.5. After documenting 2 weeks of homework (began 3:50, stop 4:05 for bathroom break, etc) and documenting homework from other teacher's of the same grade in our school and other elems., I was finally able to get the teacher to acknowledge perhaps she was too tough. Things got somewhat better. On a positive note, when my son entered 5th grade w/a different teacher, school was a breeze!! He now loves school again!

  • poohperson Jun 20, 2007

    Why at an age of second grade is there even an emphasis on grades? It is how you handle it at home that makes the difference.

    I had the same HW issue with my son, but more of my problem was my son has speech and fine motor delays. What it took other students to do in maybe an hour was taking him 2. Plus the additional work he had for speech and occupational therapy. I pushed him to complete all tasks (especially ones in Math, since he is fairly good at that) and we worked past the 20 minutes recommended, but when I sensed his frustration level rising to high, we stopped. Our saving grace was each Friday we got the homework assignments for the entire next week, so at times we did some work on the weekends so the weekdays would be less stressfull.
    I do think we need to impress upon our children to complete tasks, but we also need to recognize the point in which our efforts become detrimental instead of helpful. Two hours of homework for a first or second grader is not good

  • mosscl33 Jun 20, 2007

    Rocking....yw...and glad to see that you took the time to help those kids out....sure they will remember that for a very long time.....I do not believe how some parents say "I don't have time"...BS...MAKE the time...a child is not a chia pet that you water and leave alone...work on it everyday...and then some more.....As far as schooling goes...everyone has to just find whats going to work for them.....sad to say...but HS will never go to YR as the sports and such make that near impossible....but you can make the Elementary and middle schools...but again..will work for some not all.....we all have choices...they are never easy ones...but we do have choices....and use your power to vote......tht is one way to do our job as voters.....

  • Rocknhorse Jun 20, 2007

    mossc-thanks for taking the time to see the point I was trying to make. I realize that every district/organization, etc will have politics and problems. It's up to us to make the best of whatever the situation is.

    YR vs Traditional? Flip the coin-I honestly could care less. But make it the same across the board. School is very important but so is family. Having 2 or 3 kids on different schedules has to be a strain.

    Grades-my kids do well in school. I help them and I'm active. Some parents either aren't or can't be that involved. I tutored two boys at the school b/c their parents could not read and therefore couldn't help them. Sad but true. I think all kids should have the same opportunities, but some will run with it and some will coast, others will throw it away. I think grades should reflect that.

  • mosscl33 Jun 20, 2007

    Rocking.....I agree that is wayyyy to much work for any child to do...but I would bet that when YOUR child applies and goes to college and finally work..they will be a much better person than someone who may have just skatted by with less than half work.....We do not have a perfect system....some will say its good...better..or needs improvement.....I use to live in Johnston co....we moved due to the quality of school and teachers....so for us....it was not a matter of YR vs TR..it was the school itself...and if you think Johnston co is immune to the same problems....watch out...its coming...it may not happen while your kids are there...but it will happen soon....its all these old southern stubborn fools that do not see the problem and only see the money THEY will make.....Overall...the worst schools in Wake are still better than most in Johnston...not all...but most.....

  • Rocknhorse Jun 20, 2007

    I taught 5th and 6th grade. I'm very active with my kids' schooling. Yes, I too meet with the teacher, review their folders and ask for supplemental work if/when needed. The problem arose when my oldest entered 3rd grade and the teacher gave 2+ hrs of written homework/night. I met with the teacher and expressed my concern about the workload. I was told, "just do 30 mins of written each night and write a note as to why the rest is not done." To me, that teaches kids that they do not have to do the assigned work, but only as much as they want. They'll still get a passing grade. I expect a lot from my kids. I expect them to complete tasks and work hard. I made my child do the assigned work, even when it took 2 to 2.5 hrs. My child would cry b/c their friends would do half (or less) and get comparable grades. It made no sense to me. IF they had percentage grades, then my child would see the result of the extra effort.

  • enderby Jun 20, 2007

    We were some of the first victims of the 1-4 grading scale. The ladder climber trying to explain it to us said a "3" could equal an "A" or "B." The "4" meant the student showed mastery in applying and manipulating the concepts taught. Try explaining that to your 2nd grade daughter who received the same mark as a student with half as many correct answers. The grading system really was detrimental to her esteem when she knew she deserved an "A," especially on something like a math test. Grades are a big factor and motivator to some kids.