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Delayed Repaving Project Set to Resume Wednesday

Posted May 29, 2007

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— Road crews are expected on Wednesday to begin repaving a stretch of Poole Road in Raleigh that has been uneven for more than a month.

The project should take about a week and a half to complete, Department of Transportation Resident Engineer David Moore said.

Residents and motorists in the area have complained about manhole covers sticking up out of the road along the rough two-mile stretch from the Interstate 440 Beltline to the Martin Luther King Jr. Parkway.

"It's rocky out here, we need a fix," one motorist shouted at WRAL Tuesday morning.

Moore said a subcontractor for Rea Construction scraped the existing asphalt from the road and that Rea claims the repaving was held up because of another project on Old Garner Road.

Summer months are often the busiest for road repaving because of the hot weather. DOT officials urge residents with concerns about rough roadways and repaving jobs that seem to be taking a long time to contact their local DOT office.

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  • lollly52 May 31, 2007

    @Panther. @Commentor and a few others in this forum know folks in DOT. Via comments in other forums, they seem to be basically saying that DOT is mostly good folks in a bad situation. That is what I am trying to learn about. Why does DOT have such poor contracts – is it lack of legal help? Has the government limited DOT in some way? Or maybe, like you say @panther, it is something shady. If it is the latter, then why has not one noticed? Such huge amounts of money are being spent. http://www.lesmerritt.com/news_charlotteobserver_agencies_oversight_10_13_06.html
    I found a URL by Les Merrit in 2003 saying that DOT’s internal audit procedures were a joke, but nothing seemed to have happened afterward. interesting.....

  • Panther May 30, 2007

    lolly52 to answer your question "can we say kick backs?"

  • lollly52 May 29, 2007

    @Commentor
    "Apparently, the main problem is that it is difficult to get sufficient liquidated damages past the Board of Transportation when contracts are approved."
    I understand that you have to stay in your comfort zone when posting. I do not understand why DOT does not write tighter contracts. Are there any House, Senate or legislative bills that you can point me towards?

  • YeahWhatever May 29, 2007

    I'll have to backtrack a bit on the "legislative thing". Apparently, the main problem is that it is difficult to get sufficient liquidated damages past the Board of Transportation when contracts are approved. Damages vary for each contract with high profile jobs standing a better chance of getting bigger damages. In addition, it seems you have to get pretty deep into major delays (which this is not) for there to be much in the way of punitive damages available. If they screw something up (road quality, noticeably defective construction), things can be done, but again, at a level capped by the BoT.

    I think what would be far more effective would be to adopt policy like some other states: Put up a BIG sign with the local DOT office (or City office) AND the name/number of the contractor. I bet a few dozen people tying up phone lines everyday would light a fire under the contractors rear!

  • nosouthernershere May 29, 2007

    How do I go about getting a government contract that I can mess up totally and then charge them for me to fix it? This sounds like a great money making scam by the company. Isn't that paving company owned by DOT employees brother?

  • lollly52 May 29, 2007

    @Commentor - teach me something.
    "From what I understand, you'd be suprised at how little DOT can do to hurry up a contractor (partly due to legislative limits)."
    What are those limits? Quick URLs work for me if you are too busy to type a long post. thanks!

  • YeahWhatever May 29, 2007

    The problem is curb and gutter. You can't "fill up" the curb and gutter without creating major drainage issues. They have to mill off the pavement to a level such that resurfacing will not change the overall depth.

    The reality is that Poole Road was in really bad shape...until you compare it to Sunnybrook. Now there is a piece of work. Both roads desparately need the work (And it appears that Sunnybrook got it South of Poole Rd).

  • iam5of7 May 29, 2007

    I ride Poole road everyday. I also ride Sunnybrook everyday. Now, what exactly was wrong with Poole Road to require scraping and repaving? To save money, could they have taken the debris from Poole Road and dumped it on Sunnybrook, turning it into a gravel road, but surely smoothing IT out?

  • YeahWhatever May 29, 2007

    No, Z Man, it's more the case of a good way to light a fire under a contractor. Bad pub is remarkably motivating. If the public is screaming, it's easier force action.

    From what I understand, you'd be suprised at how little DOT can do to hurry up a contractor (partly due to legislative limits).

  • YeahWhatever May 29, 2007

    Classic "just-in-time" attempt by the contractor. I've seen it so many times, whether it be building construction or road construction. Overcommitment to jobs results in timing having to be just right, or else you are completely out of kilter. Alls it takes is one weather event, one late material delivery, or one broken piece of machinery and *boom*. We all get to pay the price.

    I hope they get it fixed, though. Man is that a rough ride.

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