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Published: 2012-07-31 16:23:00
Updated: 2012-08-04 12:53:28

Raleigh PD releases total cost of controversial training trip


Raleigh Police Chief Harry Dolan
Raleigh Police Chief Harry Dolan
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The Raleigh Police Department on Tuesday revised its estimated cost of a three-day training trip that has come under fire by some union members as a waste of public money and department resources.

The trip – taken by two dozen police lieutenants to Civil War battlefields in Virginia, Maryland and Pennsylvania in June – cost $12,756. That's about $5,000 more than the figure released by the department last week.

The earlier number, $7,700, accounted for food and lodging but did not include consultant fees and other costs, department spokesman Jim Sughrue said.

The trip cost breaks down as follows: $7,026 for food and lodging; $4,000 for consultant fees; $1,350 for transportation; and $380 for incidentals such as museum fees and parking.

The expenditure was within the $346,892 allocated in the department's budget this year for professional development, Sughrue said.

Department leaders said the trip provided the lieutenants with an opportunity to learn how political and military leaders made decisions under pressure and to study how leaders emerged during the war.

Days were 12 hours long with no downtime, and the officers used their rooms only to sleep, participants said.

"The majority of people who went on this training found it very fulfilling, found it good to work with their peers that are going to lead this department in the near future," Police Chief Harry Dolan said.

Mayor Nancy McFarlane agreed.

"It is important to have our officers trained in leadership skills and critical decision making," she said in a statement. The mayor also pointed to the Colorado theater shootings as an example of why officers must be prepared.

"As we recently witnessed in Aurora, our officers face new and difficult situations that call for the ability to think and react quickly and accurately," she said.

Raleigh City Councilman John Odom added: "If they get something out of this trip that lasts them the 20 - 25 years in the police department, then I think it's money well spent."

But the Teamsters Local 391, which represents the police interest group Raleigh Police Protective Association, says the trip had no relevance to the officers' jobs.

Chip Roth, a spokesman for Teamsters, called it nothing more than a history lesson.

"This is walking around seeing Civil War battle sites that have no relevance to our everyday world," he said.


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Team building is another feel-good initiative that businesses and governments participate in so they can claim they did something, whereas in reality nothing is accomplished and the real problems remain. I've been drug to a few of these over the years and I finally learned to just call in sick when these messes are scheduled.

I like my co-workers just fine, and we work well together, but to be honest I don't think I'd like to be stuck with them 24/7 for 3 days anywhere on the planet.

Good grief, people. Let the police department do their jobs and train their people the way the leader sees fit. He was within budget, chose to do what he thought was most appropriate for the occasion, and completed the task safely. Can't y'all see through the fog here? This is a simple case the a union is upset with the department making all officers accountable for their time spent on the job by having them fill out reports regarding their whereabouts. Or, did you guys forget about how this requirement was put out before the union started complaining about how money is being spent on training? All the comments have been so critical about how the chief spent money for training. As I stated before, demand the financials of the union and see how they are spending their contributions! It is ridiculous.

Don't worry they will make up the cost once the chief's new quota program begins.

I agree with lessismore, was this "team building" trip even approved by the city council?, It does not matter if it was in the budget, all across the country and this state law enforcement agencies are strapped for cash, and this so called "chief" decided to spend $12,256 on a trip to civil war sites? what was he thinking?

Why don't they have a cook-out, play some soft ball, horse shoes? There is plenty of ways to "team build" besides scamming tax payers. These government people believe they are spending their own money.

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