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10:26 p.m. • 2-12-12

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What's the Max Number of Students Allowed Per Class?

Q: What is the maximum number of students allowed in a class in middle school? Teacher/student ratio? If there is a waiver in the SIP plan than what is the cap?
- Teacher, Holly Springs

A: Grades 4-9 in North Carolina can have an average maximum of 26 students per teacher. However, individual classes are allowed to have up to 29 students as long as the grade level average stays at 26, according to the state Department of Public Instruction. P.E. and band classes are exempt from the policy.
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26 is low; when I attended school the numbers ran from 30 minimum to 35 maximum in the classroom. Somehow those teachers handled it without a problem. I don't think your problem is so much the number of kids, it is the additional garbage that has been dumped in your classroom by the government, students and parents. Yes I do teach, but not k5 to 12. By the way, thank you for being a teacher, you have taken on a tough career in today's society.

Kelcey and Kelly have their facts wrong. The state law is that the maximum number of students in middle school classrooms (classes like PE and band are exempted) is 29. (The school wide average has nothing to do with it.) There are two exceptions: a school-wide blanket waiver which must be included in a school improvement plan, done every 3 years, or an individual class size waiver, which the state Board of Ed just granted to all those elementary classes. However, the BoE won't grant the waiver if parents complain about class sizes. Interesting point - unless the blanket waiver specifically states a maximum, the class sizes can go as large as administration wants. Out of all the middle schools in Wake Co, 10 do not have blanket waivers, yet the state BoE allocates enough teaching positions to Wake County for a ratio of 1 teacher to 21 students. Ask your children how many classmates are in their classes, then call the state BoE if it is over 29.

I'm pretty sure that special subject areas are put into that mix, such as foreign languages, etc. to make it average out to 26. Is that correct or am I not remembering accurately?

26 is NOT low. Have you ever tried to teach 26 kids? I have, and it's a lot of kids.

Wow, I did not realize the class sizes were so low.

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