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Wake schools review could happen without board's help

Posted January 13, 2011
Updated January 19, 2011

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— The head of a national organization in charge of accrediting the Wake County Public School System says a review of the board’s governance and actions could still happen – with or without the Board of Education’s cooperation.

"We are prepared to come on site and meet with individuals that are willing to cooperate with us, and we will conduct our work with or without the cooperation of some or all of the members of the board of education,” Mark Elgart, president and chief executive officer of AdvancED, said Thursday.

Elgart said an accreditation review team would, instead, interview educators and community members about the board’s decisions in recent months, including its move to a controversial student assignment plan that moves away from a decade-old policy of busing students to help achieve socio-economic diversity.

The AdvancED team has been planning for months to interview board members after the North Carolina NAACP filed a complaint in March with the Southern Association of Colleges and Schools, a subdivision of AdvancED, alleging that some board members want to segregate the school system.

Board members have since been discussing withdrawing their accreditation after AdvancED refused to limit the scope of its review and allow an attorney to be present to represent school board members because of a legal challenge that the NAACP also filed with the U.S. Office of Civil Rights.

The board sent a four-page letter Thursday repeating its concerns and asking for a review that “must be fair and directly related to the accreditation of our schools.”

Elgart said AdvancED does not want to dictate policy but look at how decisions are made.

The board’s letter goes on to say that without AdvancED’s “unequivocal consent … we will be left with no choice to decline to participate in the interviews” and that the board will have to “reconsider its continuing relationship” with the group.

"It is hard for me to believe that the company we employ would certainly not want to cooperate with us," Board chairman Ron Margiotta said Thursday.

Board attorney Jonathan Blumberg said the board has, so far, been cooperating with the review by answering questions and providing documents and even a face-to-face meeting.

“The board does want this to work, does want to continue with the certification process,” he said.

Elgart disagrees.

“It continues a pattern of being confrontational and not cooperating with the process,” Elgart said Thursday of the letter.

Elgart said AdvancED is prepared to "come on-site and meet with individuals willing to meet with us." 

Accreditation is important, because it can be used in determining a high school student’s acceptance to a higher institution of learning.

How institutions use it varies, however.

Officials at several local colleges and universities say there are a number of determining factors in student acceptance – ranging from student grades and test scores to campus and community involvement – but that accreditation is still an important factor.

The community group Great Schools in Wake Coalition also weighed in on the matter Wednesday, issuing a statement saying that dropping accreditation could cost students millions of dollars in academic and athletic scholarship and educational loans and limit acceptance to colleges, universities and military programs.

And board member Carolyn Morrison released a statement Wednesday afternoon saying withdrawing accreditation would be “another blow” to the school system and could be misinterpreted by the public.

Other board members have suggested looking at other accreditation groups.

"There are several other agencies that do accreditation of a higher caliber (that) we are looking at,” board member John Tedesco has said.

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  • me2you Jan 14, 2011

    http://www.theteachersadvocate.com/id137.html

    I read this posted by others...interesting.

  • justabumer Jan 14, 2011

    The problem of conflict among the board members could be solved if all of those who work against the will of the majority were replaced.

  • cb100 Jan 14, 2011

    I have a suggestion. In some states, the high schools, along with general academic subjects, specialize in certain fields. ie. Accounting, Computers, Science, Engineering, or many other fields. The student from middle school is allowed to choose which high school he/she wishes to attend. Transportation falls into several methods. Dropping student off at central bus location or parents arranging transportation. In some areas public transportation may be possible.

    The school saves by concentration the tools needed for a specific course to a few high schools instead of having them sparsely spread out at all high schools.

    This enable the student to receive a valued education in a field they are interested in. It also encourages the students to start thinking earlier about possible professions they wish to investigate.

    It would no longer be a part of the credidation process. It would be a part of the education process.

  • mwlral8778 Jan 14, 2011

    The WPCSS should take note of what the Gov of Maine did. It would be absolutely refreshing...

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories

    scroll down to the story about the Gov of Maine... golo wont allow the entire URL

  • 1secondlook Jan 14, 2011

    "The real question is how much money is wasted statewide on this bogus accreditation for schools?"

    Public schools and non-profits have to report this kind of information so if you are really interested, you could probably find out.
    Not_So_Dumb
    I just figured that Blackdog or dfmlythr would know the answer. They seem to know everything and whats best for all of us.

  • chevybelair57sd Jan 14, 2011

    With a 70% graduation rate tied to the old way of doing things I wonder what advancED considers in the accreditation process? Are there any ties to Acorn? just saying.

  • Not_So_Dumb Jan 14, 2011

    "The real question is how much money is wasted statewide on this bogus accreditation for schools?"

    Public schools and non-profits have to report this kind of information so if you are really interested, you could probably find out.

  • 1secondlook Jan 14, 2011

    The real question is how much money is wasted statewide on this bogus accreditation for schools?

  • ncguy Jan 14, 2011

    ncguy-- you worried about other schools? How about we tend to our own business and not worry about other schools?

    Superman-
    i am just trying to figure out if wake schools are the only system being singled out when other school systems have already adopted neighborhood schools and have been able to keep the accredidation from this group.

    Is there a precident in another school system?

  • chevybelair57sd Jan 14, 2011

    The last thing This school system or any other system needs is more bureaucracy right now. Even if they settle this with AdvacED, I hope they look around for better accrediation and dump this arrogant bunch. Then PorkChop will have to find new allies in his entitlement program

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