Wake schools panel gets a look under the hood of assignment models

Posted May 25, 2010

— Assigning Wake County students to schools in contiguous attendance zones will take new computer programming and more data, but both are under way, the school board's Student Assignment Committee learned Wednesday.

At its first meeting since the full board finalized a new assignment policy that drops efforts to balance diversity in all 60 schools in the county, the committee of three board members and nine community members got a rundown from the district's Growth and Planning Department about the computer model the district has used for almost a decade and what an update will allow.

There also was a surprise moment during the meeting when board member John Tedesco, the chair, was given a statement from board Chairman Ron Margiotta to read to the group.

Margiotta asked the committee to "please consider making our magnet schools year-round calendar and immediately increase capacity for the 2011-12 school year."

The suggestion surprised members Kevin Hill and Keith Sutton, who said after the session that they had never heard the idea before. Making magnet schools year-round with a track system would make it harder for some parents to use them because it complicates childcare arrangements, they said.

Margiotta also urged the committee to "place emphasis on the importance of keeping communities and neighborhoods together.... Stability in assignment must be a factor considered in the plan development."

During the meeting, two of the committee's community members who are also veterans of a committee that used to advise district staff about assignments made it clear that meshing several goals for assignment is a tough task.

"In high-growth areas, stability is going to be the same problem with the new policy" that it was with the previous one, member Ann Sherron said.Member David Williams echoed her sentiment, saying stability was important to many parents. He also noted, however, that parents in different parts of the county had different priorities.

The board majority elected in November has made it a priority to assign as many students as possible near their homes, but the system also has to balance available seats in the schools it has.

In some instances, that means children from attendance "nodes" on the district map are bused miles away, a practice Tedesco is determined to end.

He admitted that new attendance zones the committee will draw may have to be shaped or stretched to get children to open seats at schools, but all attendance zones will have contiguous boundaries for attendance zones, he said.

There will be, he vowed, no "donuts" of small areas being sent far afield while areas around them stay in community schools.

New programming being done now on the district's Growth Management Utility computer program will allow the committee to see the district's population down to the level of individual properties rather than just in the larger nodes, which can encompass several blocks of apartments or square miles of less densely populated areas.

Moving students by node often means reassigning 50 or 100 families, staff member Laura Evans explained to the committee during the orientation session.

Staff also told the group that the current student population of just under 140,000 students is expected to grow to 143,000 for the 2010-11 year even with reduced projections because of the recession.

Tedesco's committee will meet twice a month to work on data and details, he said, and then will hold "seven to nine" community meetings to introduce its plan and gather public reaction.

Tedesco hopes to begin using the community-based system for the 2011-12 school year, then have it drive all assignments for 2012-13.

The school system is ending the first year of an assignment plan designed to minimize transfers for three years.

Parents have long voiced unhappiness about students being moved frequently or being moved to new areas when they move from elementary to middle school and middle school to high school.

Tedesco said that stability in feeding students through schools in their communities is a high priority under the new plan.


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  • beachy97118 May 26, 2010

    Is Margiotta completely loosing his mind?

  • kgorski May 26, 2010

    The argument that making magnets year-round would make it difficult from a child-care perspective don't hold water. Providers will adapt (and have done so) and offer programs families need.

    As much as I'd love to see the magnet program capacity increased (I'm awaiting word on a transfer for one of the kids, right now) I think Meulinks is right in that it would be chaotic, if not impossible to teach electives. How do you have 1/3 of an orchestra, dance troupe or language class out at a time and the other 2/3 at completely different places in the curriculum?

    Not to mention teacher, staff, facilities and transportation costs would increase. How would that get funded in this time of fiscal crisis?

    Instead, it might be cheaper to make available some magnet-type basics (such as a foreign language) in all schools.

  • Scarlet May 26, 2010

    So H.S. students won't be able to get summer jobs or do summer mission work or volunteer work since they only have 3 week breaks throughout the year. Is the new planning thinking about how this affects H.S.students? No more summer school at community colleges or online courses to help further their education while in H.S.? Don't rush us into a system without fully thinking about the implications to the community and the students who may need to earn money for college and other things.

  • theartistformerlyknownasspeedy May 25, 2010

    De facto, I was never eligible for the magnets based on my socioeconomic status. My quest was for YR which for me was a magnet. After 7 years of being told I lived in the wrong neighborhood and had basically NO CHANCE, I gave up.

  • theartistformerlyknownasspeedy May 25, 2010

    "The suggestion surprised members Kevin Hill and Keith Sutton, who said after the session that they had never heard the idea before. Making magnet schools year-round with a track system would make it harder for some parents to use them because it complicates childcare arrangements, they said."

    But it's OK to complicate the childcare arrangements for the non-magnet YR kids? Isn't MANDATORY YR what the old board was pushing? Weren't they headed to ALL YR schools before? Or all YR except for those they hand picked for the magnets in the name of diversity?

  • meulinks May 25, 2010

    Yes. Have you never looked into the magnet programs????

  • theartistformerlyknownasspeedy May 25, 2010

    Electives in elementary?

  • meulinks May 25, 2010

    So now Hill and Sutton are AGAINST year round?
    How did you surmise this? They are not against YR, but magnet and YR are not a good fit.
    Imagine: Electives are the "enticement" of the magnet system. OK You have 3 tracks beginning the electives, and at magnet they do not attend electives by class, but by choice. So elementary kids are splitting off and heading to a variety of electives. The classes begin and three-six weeks in one group of students tracks out, and another tracks in. This means that you loose, let's say for discussions sake, 1/3 of the elective classes, and a new 1/3 begins. So, now you have 2/3 that are well into the teaching, but 1/3 is just beginning. So the teacher now has to keep the 2/3 moving forward while starting over with 1/3.

    And get's even more fun!! In another 3 weeks one of the beginning 1/3 tracks out and the original track rejoins the group.

    Get the picture?

  • ksh33 May 25, 2010

    60 schools in the county? Did I miss something? Maybe 160??

  • theartistformerlyknownasspeedy May 25, 2010

    So now Hill and Sutton are AGAINST year round? Talk about your flip flop from their votes on the old board. I guess they just vote against whatever the new majority suggests.