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NCAE 'misrepresenting' teacher raises in budget, McCrory says

Posted August 5

Gov. Pat McCrory

— Gov. Pat McCrory on Tuesday blasted the North Carolina Association of Educators, saying statements made by the teachers organization in recent weeks has led to confusion over teacher pay raises included in the state budget.

"I think the NCAE is misrepresenting the facts," McCrory said at a news conference when asked about longevity pay for veteran teachers.

"I guarantee that, had others proposed this type of increase, the NCAE would be cheering," he said. "It was probably the wrong party that recommended it."

Lawmakers and educators went back and forth in recent weeks over the size of raises in the budget. Republican legislative leaders said the raises averaged about 7 percent and were the largest in state history. The NCAE and others argued that those claims were inflated, saying longevity pay – annual bonuses given to teachers with at least 10 years of experience – was rolled into the raises.

McCrory, who has said he plans to sign the $21.1 billion budget, parsed the difference last week by referring to it as a 5.5 percent average raise plus longevity pay.

"The longevity pay money is still clearly in place, and I think there's misrepresentation coming out of the NCAE, which is confusing teachers," he said, adding that he's spoken to a number of teachers who are pleased with the raises.

"It isn't the perfect solution, but I think it's a combination of reform and rewarding our teachers," he said.

Mark Jewell, an NCAE vice president, said that, no matter who is in power, the group believes the pay increase doesn't reward veteran teachers and won't be sustainable in future years, based on current state revenue projections.

The governor said critics of the budget should present their own spending plan, complete with how they plan to pay for their priorities, instead of complaining about it.

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  • wildpig777 Aug 9, 6:34 a.m.

    i'll tell you what is going to be presented-- that's an open door and your walking papers gov mc when election time comes around. now for you hypocritical do nothing nc democrats-- take responsibility for the neglect and total disregard your party has had for decades in reference to state employees and teachers and funding them. will your party learn for your mistakes of the past -- I HIGHLY DOUBT IT.

  • joycejunior Aug 7, 5:22 p.m.

    Teachers with longevity essentially have been getting raises the last 6 years with their... View More

    — Posted by Princess1

    I'm happy that younger teachers are getting a good raise. They deserve it. I remember as a... View More

    — Posted by nceducator79

    Good point. They keep gradually taking away pay/benefits and then hiding it through readjusted salary schedules.

  • jgilchr Aug 7, 8:38 a.m.

    If I make any amount more than I have the past 6 years, I'm thankful for it. Thank you.

    — Posted by jackamoe!

    Even if the increase doesn't keep up with cost of living and inflation over time?

  • nceducator79 Aug 7, 6:12 a.m.

    Teachers with longevity essentially have been getting raises the last 6 years with their... View More

    — Posted by Princess1

    I'm happy that younger teachers are getting a good raise. They deserve it. I remember as a young teacher, with only 4 years of experience, getting a really decent raise (maybe 8%) back in 2005). I got a bigger raise then veteran teachers, but not a raise that was nearly 20 times more.

    But, think about it. Master's pay is gone. Longevity pay is gone. I'm assuming board pay will eventually be gone as well if they keep it up. Do you plan on making a career as an educator? If so, what incentive do you have to further your education, hence becoming a better educator? Are you okay with getting a raise once every 6 years? I have two daughters...I certainly would never tell them to go into a career where you don't earn more money for and advanced degree and you only get raises once every 6 years. Enjoy the 18% raise...might be all you'll ever get.

  • iopsyc Aug 6, 4:31 p.m.

    Regular state employees raises aren't as rosey as it seems either. The "5 days bonus leave"... View More

    — Posted by truthspeaker77


    Do you have a source for that interpretation? As I understand it, in the past those days were a separate "bonus" leave and expired at the end of the fiscal year. It'd be interesting to know why it would be handled differently this year.

  • truthspeaker77 Aug 6, 3:42 p.m.

    Regular state employees raises aren't as rosey as it seems either. The "5 days bonus leave" will be lumped under vacation in the system. Anotherwords, you won't be able to use those 5 extra days of bonus vacation until your regular vacation balance is 0. Works out well for those that get Cancer and have to deplete all their time or for folks that are retiring soon. For everyone else you will never use those days until you retire. Nobody wants to deplete their vacation leave to 0, it is severly frowned upon.

  • Objective Scientist Aug 6, 3:26 p.m.

    Teachers will receive more pay under this plan, which is a good start. However, cost of living... View More

    — Posted by tracmister

    I hear/read frequently about teachers having purchase educational/classroom supplies out of their own pockets. This tells me that the state is not providing sufficient supply budgets! The state needs to increase such budgets to cover actual costs - best option - or any/all teachers able to document and justify personal expenditure on school supplies should get a direct - dollar for dollar - reduction in their state income taxes.

    There is likely some "misrepresentation" in the NCAE perspective of teacher raises, but there is a LOT of misrepresentation of the state budget as it applies to education and teachers from the Gov and our Legislative leaders. The 'ole "shell-game, combined with the use of "smoke and mirrors" is alive and well in NC politics!!! And... I hasten to say that Democrats have used those "games", and the gerrymandering game as well-- not "bashing" one party and not the other. Such shenanigans need to stop from BOTH!!

  • tntcreateart Aug 6, 3:17 p.m.

    The misrepresentation is rolling longevity pay into a teacher's salary and calling it a raise. Did the NCAE do that?

  • tracmister Aug 6, 3:09 p.m.

    Teachers will receive more pay under this plan, which is a good start. However, cost of living increases which used to be yearly and now done every five years. All teachers taxes have gone up due to elimination of deductions and increased taxes on other items. All school budgets have not grown at the rate that students have come into the state which has caused a decline in the money we spend per student. Yes, this is a small start in reversing the total failure of the NCGOP to do right by the children and citizens of this state unless you're rich.

  • panthersjse Aug 6, 3:00 p.m.

    This is the largest raise that North Carolina teachers have received yet the left is still... View More

    The teacher "raise" was political. If it wasn't, state employees would have gotten a raise as well.

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